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Yes I would pledge $10.
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Multispectral Nisse




Luton, UK

 NightHowler wrote:
What I don't understand is the attitude that I shouldn't even try. That I should go play some other game. If that's truly the way that you feel, then why are you even on a website devoted to this game? Why have you taken the time to create an account on this website, read the posts here and respond to them? If you care enough to create an account on this website, then maybe it wouldn't kill you to try and support a positive change. Instead of saying, "no. we should give up and play a different game."


Well that's an easy one to field. Dakka isn't a website devoted to 40K, or even GW in general. It's got lots of chat about all different sorts of wargames. Hope that helps!

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“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” 
   
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Norn Iron

I haven't voted because the whole thing seems bizarre; a new take on all those "Come on, everyone! Let's boycott GW!" topics that used to pop up and fizzle away every time GW raised prices or released a bad codex, or the Change.org petition that had 16,000 signatories (IIRC) and achieved... pfff?

Other people have already said what I think, better than I could. Especially Blacksails.

Blacksails wrote:
Who said anything about about not playing?

Seeing as how you don't want to use another game's rules, you still have the option of using any of the editions you've bought over the years, including some sort of franken-edition that you've worked on yourself. Obviously this depends on your game group and how close you are.

But really, for the foreseeable future, there won't be a new edition, and chances are that you have an army with a recently updated codex. Boom, now you have no incentive or need to spend money on GW.

As for models, there are dozens of excellent third party companies that produce equal to, if not better, quality miniatures. I haven't spent a dime on GW in recent memory because I'm busy buying from the likes of Vic Minis for my Guard. I still get to build, paint, and play, but without spending any more money on GW.

Nobody wants to give up. But if the alternative is supporting something you dislike, than I'd rather cut my losses and hope my lack of spending gets the company to realize that I'm not alone in my reasoning.

If you haven't already, also try other games entirely. X-wing is a ton of fun, and Firestorm Armada is a great alternative to BFG, plus Spartan Games is coming out with a full set of games for battles in the Halo universe, and the models are stunning.

Its a big hobby out there. Support the little guys, and before you know it, GW will either realize it needs to adapt and change for the better, or become irrelevant.

I don't think trying to change internally will be met with any success, so speak the only language they know; their bottom line.


This, very much. Exalted. Some of us couldn't really be bothered saving GW anymore because other games - especially other games' rules that you might slot GW minis into yadda yadda - fill the hole very nicely thank you. And don't really manipulate you into constant buying... well, not as much. If GW pay enough attention to their bottom line in time to save themselves or the game*, all well and good. If not, too bad, so sad.

And also, it 'depends on your game group and how close you are', but persuading them would be a far easier, more plausible task than getting a tiny foothold to persuade GW's board.

*Oop! Almost posted 'in time to save the games'. But that time's past...

Mr. Burning wrote:5 million????

Are there that many patrons of GW? let alone those who want change?


Yyyup. Some gamers will happily burn hundreds or thousands of your currency of choice to own mediocre minis (or for the promise of mediocre minis) that they may not use, content with their position at the end of the conveyor belt. But ask them to devote a tiny fraction of that to improve the minis, rules, or process, and the shutters come down.

Not to mention that online petition, where 'only' 16-17K people signed up for free. Where are you gonna get 5 million people each waving a $10 note? Or 2.5 million with $20, etc.?

Azreal13 wrote:
A cookie for anyone who can tell the class where the inherent contradiction lies in this statement.


Oh, oh, sir! Is it because the super-honesty* includes acting like a crook and proudly admitting it?

*Isn't that one of silver-age Superman's powers?

coelomate wrote:Business law things.


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I'm sooo, sooo sorry.

Plog - Random sculpts and OW Helves 9/3/23 
   
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Chico, CA

The answer is simple set up a kickstart or what ever one your choice is and see what happens. At the very least it would show you believe in it, instead of you know internet ranting. Don't ask if people will have pay, post on a lot of GW related forums saying I started a kickstart of such+and+such. If it doesn't look like a kid put it up in 10minutes maybe poeple will give you money. In otherwords show you have the time and willing to devote a large part of you life and time to it. If you want people to give you their money, you need to show you aren' t one of the "help me make a game" then never do anything type of poster. Of you aren't willing to put yourself out there and fail, how do expect support from others. Don' t forget a detail business plan, it also show your more then hot air. Showimg a lack of corporate laws it not going to help you.

Peter: As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living! So we all sing Christmas Carols to lull him back to sleep.
Bob: Outrageous, How dare he say such blasphemy. I've got to do something.
Man #1: Bob, there's nothing you can do.
Bob: Well, I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.  
   
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Shadeglass Maze

Since the OP has posted indicated they aren't going to follow through with this idea, I'm going to lock this thread... Please PM me if it should be re-opened for any reason.
   
 
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