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 matphat wrote:
What's the problem people have with the Trakk upgrade? I've always upgraded my Buggies to Trakks and it's done nothing but pay me in spades. I cannot count the number of times I've bashed right though terrain to get that perfect rear armor shot and been saved by my Trakk.

Same, it's that reliability factor which can sometimes make all the difference.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Orkz definitely suffer against some large cheese, but unless you play against the briest of meta's, you can do well with Orkz. The trick is recognizing that some units are never worth taking and that often times bodies are worth more than special gear.

Sure, Orkz are hard, especially against gunline armies, but they're a blast to play and definitely worth a spin.

Aye that's one thing which draws me to Orks, they're just so fun to play as- defeating the Emperor's finest with 'Scrapheap Challange' technology. And sometimes one just gets tired of kiting units with Tau.

the_scotsman wrote:
The problem with grotsnik is no mega armor. There's almost never a time when I don't want a megaboss, since they can occasionally be useful to tank wounds and take on challenges (Stikkboss is great for this). But a T-shirt boss? Way to expensive for what he does.

Rage is what Grotsnik really brings to the table. Occasionally that's handy with shoota boyz, giving them a kind of "best of both worlds" but he's still a huge amount of points

Totally depends on what you''re running. For example, i'm mostly footslogging, so megaarmour is a no-no. Footsloggas are better off with t-shirts.

Well, taking a look at his rules I may have judged Grotsnik unfairly based on his 5th-ed rules. He seems much improved! I'll be running him as an experiment tomorrow paired with a unit of 8 Nobz. My thinking is many units in the game tend to be 10 models, so I can be sure I'll probably get Rampage. I've got 2x hidden Klaws plus his Klaw (all benefitting from rampage), a hidden Bosspole and the boss nob just naked to eat challenges. I'll throw em in a wagon and hurl em at a large enemy target.

Hardly competitive but it's nice to get fearless without having to go for a Waagh Crapghkull detachment.