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No leaked images this time? What's the deal?

 warboss wrote:
It could be because the models look horrible and the idea of Adeptus Astartes nesting dolls is just as bad.

I think they look pretty ace.

Also, marvel clearly just stole the idea in re-envisioning Iron Man's Hulkbuster armour as an Iron Man within an Iron Man

BeeCee wrote:
In all seriousness, wasn't Leviathan on a crash course for Baal in the fluff? I can't remember right now.

Yes. The blood angels fluff ends with ka'banda leading a daemon army against baal at the same time as leviathan was invading the blood angels system. Dante recalls all blood angels successor chapters to baal, including at least 1 that went traitor.

 th3maninblak wrote:

BeeCee wrote:
In all seriousness, wasn't Leviathan on a crash course for Baal in the fluff? I can't remember right now.

Yes. The blood angels fluff ends with ka'banda leading a daemon army against baal at the same time as leviathan was invading the blood angels system. Dante recalls all blood angels successor chapters to baal, including at least 1 that went traitor.

Sounds so bad that I'm quite certain it will come true.

Well, that's already the fluff, so it has 'come true' in a sense.

I'm kind of curious to see if they move it on from that point or leave it as is. Perhaps they'll delve into the conflict but not resolve it.

Whatever happens I would love it if the Successors got a bit of care and attention.

appiah4 wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:

BeeCee wrote:
In all seriousness, wasn't Leviathan on a crash course for Baal in the fluff? I can't remember right now.

Yes. The blood angels fluff ends with ka'banda leading a daemon army against baal at the same time as leviathan was invading the blood angels system. Dante recalls all blood angels successor chapters to baal, including at least 1 that went traitor.

Sounds so bad that I'm quite certain it will come true.

This is also coming on the heels of the chapter being almost wiped out twice in less than a millenium (in the BL novels more recently and also in the space hulk back story). I really don't know where they're trying to go with the fluff or if both are still officially canon.

 warboss wrote:
It could be because the models look horrible and the idea of Adeptus Astartes nesting dolls is just as bad.

I hate how they look personally.........

What chapter that went traitor is being recalled? How would that even work?

'Come help us out, and if you mind your P's and Q's we will totes let you back into the imperium.'


I dunno. Seems a bit off.

I believe it was the Knights of Blood, who were declared Renegade by the Inquisition thanks to their rumoured habit of murdering/eating the people they were supposed to defend, but ultimately still fight for the IoM.

That, or Dante just hadn't unsubscribed them from the 'Sons of Baal' newsletter yet

 pretre wrote:
Here it is:
Lords of War Gaming There will be a campaign book that is released early November. Necrons are not for a while I know of two armies that are next and another codex that will shock people next year.

Is it too hopeful to say Eldar?

That said I don't buy that Necrons are far off. Why would they wait when they are this close to having them all hard cover? Especially when you consider all the problematic rules interactions in that book.

 godswildcard wrote:
What chapter that went traitor is being recalled? How would that even work?

'Come help us out, and if you mind your P's and Q's we will totes let you back into the imperium.'


I dunno. Seems a bit off.

Yup, like Paradigm said. Knights of Blood are still fight on behalf of the Imperium even without promise of their renegade status being rescinded. It's worth noting that the High Lords of Terra pronounced them renegades, there's no fluff on whether or not the Blood Angels had any say in this or not. Personally, I'm inclined to believe that Dante and co. would be somewhat sympathetic towards and forgiving of the KoB as most of our successors are at least a little bit sketchy. The Flesh Eaters are right on the brink of being declared renegades, the Angels Sanguine won't show their faces to anyone not in the chapter, the Lamenters were traitors for a time during the Badab War, we all know what the Flesh Tearers did on Armageddon and then of course there are the evocatively (and entirely appropriately) named Blood Drinkers. It's like having a bunch of unruly, not-so-borderline psychopathic kids; yes, they've got serious problems, but their your kids damn it! You keep them close at hand and try to moderate their behaviour, not abdicate responsibility for them.

Even ignoring all that, it's kind of an all hands on deck situation in the Baal system and even an exiled successor chapter would drop what they're doing to come help out, that's probably doubly the case if that chapter views itself as still loyal to the Imperium and bears no ill will (as far as we know) towards their primogenitors.

so let's just follow this rabbit hole a little bit. IF the new campaign is the battle for the Baal system AND these rumors are true, is a new Demon codex outside the realm of possible?

That would definitely leave the Necrons out in the cold until next year? but that would coincide with the rumors of Necrons in January?

I know this is just a theory based on rumors that Lords of War Gaming posted:

1. There will be a Blood Angels campaign in November
2.Blood Angels are next
3. There will be 2 new Tyranid monsters released 6-7 weeks out from 10/8
4. There will be a codex released that will suprise everyone. (giving us the idea that it is on that we don't feel is "due")

Isn't the surprise codex going to be hard back Inquisition?

Or hardback Sisters.

 pretre wrote:
We already covered that this is a fake.

It's not a fake. It was a speculation cover I put together based on some info from Faeit212. It really pisses me off how people rip stuff from my blog and try to pass it off as the real thing.

Original post on my blog with info about that Codex cover here: http://dedard.blogspot.com/2014/10/could-this-be-new-blood-angels-cover.html

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Or hardback Sisters.

I would certainly be surprised. Thrilled, but surprised.

Also poor, if BA / SoB are pretty much back to back.

D

 evildrcheese wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Or hardback Sisters.

I would certainly be surprised. Thrilled, but surprised.

Also poor, if BA / SoB are pretty much back to back.

D

It appears that we know essentially nothing.
GW's information policy seems to work.

Crons are slotted for january, i think. But im just super pumped for blood angels. I cant wait to dust them back off. Im still predicting november 22nd and their release.

 th3maninblak wrote:
Crons are slotted for january, i think. But im just super pumped for blood angels. I cant wait to dust them back off. Im still predicting november 22nd and their release.

I'm hoping that a full army with jump packs will get a revival.
It has been a nice themed army in the fifth edition.

 theharrower wrote:

 pretre wrote:
We already covered that this is a fake.

It's not a fake. It was a speculation cover I put together based on some info from Faeit212. It really pisses me off how people rip stuff from my blog and try to pass it off as the real thing.

Original post on my blog with info about that Codex cover here: http://dedard.blogspot.com/2014/10/could-this-be-new-blood-angels-cover.html

Agreed that ripping you off is bad, but it's still a fake (ie not real) even if it is speculation.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Crons are slotted for january, i think. But im just super pumped for blood angels. I cant wait to dust them back off. Im still predicting november 22nd and their release.

I'm hoping that a full army with jump packs will get a revival.
It has been a nice themed army in the fifth edition.

Me too, seeing as i have 60+ assorted jump infantry.

 th3maninblak wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Crons are slotted for january, i think. But im just super pumped for blood angels. I cant wait to dust them back off. Im still predicting november 22nd and their release.

I'm hoping that a full army with jump packs will get a revival.
It has been a nice themed army in the fifth edition.

Me too, seeing as i have 60+ assorted jump infantry.

How on earth are we limited to having a "nice themed" jump army now??? You've got jump SQUADS in HQs, Elites, Troops (multiple!), and fast attack. The only thing you're missing are support jump packers... is that what you want for a "themed" army? Assault Devastators deep striking? Lol.

 warboss wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Crons are slotted for january, i think. But im just super pumped for blood angels. I cant wait to dust them back off. Im still predicting november 22nd and their release.

I'm hoping that a full army with jump packs will get a revival.
It has been a nice themed army in the fifth edition.

Me too, seeing as i have 60+ assorted jump infantry.

How on earth are we limited to having a "nice themed" jump army now??? You've got jump SQUADS in HQs, Elites, Troops (multiple!), and fast attack. The only thing you're missing are support jump packers... is that what you want for a "themed" army? Assault Devastators deep striking? Lol.

It would be boring to have just another SM chapter.
I hope GW has designed a fast moving Marine army with fast vehicles and jump packers.

 pretre wrote:

 theharrower wrote:

 pretre wrote:
We already covered that this is a fake.

It's not a fake. It was a speculation cover I put together based on some info from Faeit212. It really pisses me off how people rip stuff from my blog and try to pass it off as the real thing.

Original post on my blog with info about that Codex cover here: http://dedard.blogspot.com/2014/10/could-this-be-new-blood-angels-cover.html

Agreed that ripping you off is bad, but it's still a fake (ie not real) even if it is speculation.

Can't argue that. I guess the thing that annoys me is saying that it's fake makes it seem like I was trying to pass it off as the real thing which I certainly wasn't. Unlike the majority of the community, I believe in journalistic integrity and not making $#!* up.

Lol natfka posted the tycho dataslate comment up as a rumor...

We laugh about jump pack devastators but if we got the suspender web thingies like in the HH books so heavies could move with a jump pack that would be super sweet.


D

 th3maninblak wrote:
Lol natfka posted the tycho dataslate comment up as a rumor...

Are you serious? lol.

Jump pack troops shouldn't get access to heavy weapons.

However,there's certainly space (perhaps even a need) for jump pack equipped 'devastators' with 4 special/assault weapons.

4 meltaguns, 4 flamers or 4 plasma guns (which get relentless to make them usable on the move). If we get grav then that can be an option, too.


If we're going to have to live with 6th/7ths assault nerfs (and assuming we don't get special rules to negate them), then our mobility and short range damage output should be maximised.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
Jump pack troops shouldn't get access to heavy weapons.

However,there's certainly space (perhaps even a need) for jump pack equipped 'devastators' with 4 special/assault weapons.

4 meltaguns, 4 flamers or 4 plasma guns (which get relentless to make them usable on the move). If we get grav then that can be an option, too.


If we're going to have to live with 6th/7ths assault nerfs (and assuming we don't get special rules to negate them), then our mobility and short range damage output should be maximised.

BA has Honor Guard with four special weapons and they can get jump packs.
In the fifth edition I ran a DoA army usually led by two Librarians each of which leading a HG.
Two shock and Awe units with fnp.

We already get pistols that do all of that, when you're deep striking / jump packing the range is OK and it stops you compromising on the assault punch too much. You wouldn't want to dump plasma guns on assault units, since they're rapid fire. If you want jump packing, shooty troops... I think there are probably better armies for that, BA is about assault, baby