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 Alpharius wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Mon'keigh is old, very old, at least 2nd ed. (so, 1994), and that's assuming it wasn't from Rogue Trader.

The Ork term for Elves is "panzee", etc. Lots of silly old naming conventions.

I don't think the term Mon'keigh is quite that old - certainly not 2nd edition or RT old...

I think it is more 4th edition timeframe?

Anyway, it is awful, and should be retired, double quick! Especially as GW is going about renaming stuff again!

I have my 3rd ed Eldar codex on hand, and it uses the term. So at least that old. I’d have to go back to the shelf to check 2nd ed.

Indeed:

"Any species deemed inferior; most often used for humans. Derived from legendary cannibalistic mishappen monstrosities that invaded and subjugated Eldar lands until they were cleansed from the galaxy by the hero Elronhir."

Source: Codex: Eldar (3rd Edition), pg. 49

So, not 2nd edition then?

I largely skipped 40K 3rd ("The Blandening") and only came back with 4th.

3rd was the first time Mon-Keigh were mentioned, yes.

I don't really mind the term, personally.

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed:

"Any species deemed inferior; most often used for humans. Derived from legendary cannibalistic mishappen monstrosities that invaded and subjugated Eldar lands until they were cleansed from the galaxy by the hero Elronhir."

Source: Codex: Eldar (3rd Edition), pg. 49

Just a question, did this eldar hero have a human son in law?

Lord Kragan wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Indeed:

"Any species deemed inferior; most often used for humans. Derived from legendary cannibalistic mishappen monstrosities that invaded and subjugated Eldar lands until they were cleansed from the galaxy by the hero Elronhir."

Source: Codex: Eldar (3rd Edition), pg. 49

Just a question, did this eldar hero have a human son in law?

Yes.

L.RonHubbard.

POW! From the rumour engine.

Looking like a Chaos bolt pistol to me.

Oh I really hope this means a plastic Cypher...the design has an integrated scope it looks like.

Maybe it's a steamhead/freeguild one, though.

The giant knife-tip looks silly, even for a 40k model.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
The giant knife-tip looks silly, even for a 40k model.

It's a holster. For the gun. Straps can be seen on the top and bottom of the weapon.

Lord Kragan wrote:
Maybe it's a steamhead/freeguild one, though.

It's a bolt pistol.

 Carnikang wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
The giant knife-tip looks silly, even for a 40k model.

It's a holster. For the gun. Straps can be seen on the top and bottom of the weapon.

Nah, it's a knife-gun!

I couldn't tell on Grey Plastic it was a holster! It definitely looked like a HUGE Knife tip on a gun at first glance. Lol.

I'm guessing Cypher has holstered his Bolt Pistol and drawn the Lion Sword...

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I'm guessing Cypher has holstered his Bolt Pistol and drawn the Lion Sword...

He can't actually use it according to the more recent lore.

pm713 wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I'm guessing Cypher has holstered his Bolt Pistol and drawn the Lion Sword...

He can't actually use it according to the more recent lore.

Pretty much. There's some sort of unpleasant psychic backlash whenever people try to handle the Lion Sword.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Spoiler:

pm713 wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I'm guessing Cypher has holstered his Bolt Pistol and drawn the Lion Sword...

He can't actually use it according to the more recent lore.

Pretty much. There's some sort of unpleasant psychic backlash whenever people try to handle the Lion Sword.

Unless those people wielding it are named Cypher, of course, in which case he can pick that bad boy up Excalibur style

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 Galef wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Spoiler:

pm713 wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I'm guessing Cypher has holstered his Bolt Pistol and drawn the Lion Sword...

He can't actually use it according to the more recent lore.

Pretty much. There's some sort of unpleasant psychic backlash whenever people try to handle the Lion Sword.

Unless those people wielding it are named Cypher, of course, in which case he can pick that bad boy up Excalibur style

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The Lion Sword is also broken, last we saw it in I believe Angels of Caliban.

 Galef wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Spoiler:

pm713 wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I'm guessing Cypher has holstered his Bolt Pistol and drawn the Lion Sword...

He can't actually use it according to the more recent lore.

Pretty much. There's some sort of unpleasant psychic backlash whenever people try to handle the Lion Sword.

Unless those people wielding it are named Cypher, of course, in which case he can pick that bad boy up Excalibur style

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If you can give me an instance where he uses the Lion Sword, I'd appreciate it. From what I've seen though, he only uses his plasma pistol and bolt pistol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

If you can give me an instance where he uses the Lion Sword, I'd appreciate it. From what I've seen though, he only uses his plasma pistol and bolt pistol.

He hasn't yet, but there are hints that acquiring it is his goal. I am inferring that he may be able to wield it

 Galef wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

If you can give me an instance where he uses the Lion Sword, I'd appreciate it. From what I've seen though, he only uses his plasma pistol and bolt pistol.

He hasn't yet, but there are hints that acquiring it is his goal. I am inferring that he may be able to wield it

He already has it. He doesn't use it and advises Asmodai not to touch it. Asmodai ignores him.

Well he did used to have a C'tan phase knife so maybe he holstered his bolt pistol in exchange for that.

We're still on a metal Cypher, aren't we? I don't play DA so I wouldn't know. But the pointy bolt pistol holster kinda reminded me of a beak, so I thought of Tzeentch. But he's had his releases, and I don't think we're gonna get another IC for his forces. But all things considered, i'd love to see a new Cypher, i'd pick it up just to paint it!

 Cephalobeard wrote:
I couldn't tell on Grey Plastic it was a holster! It definitely looked like a HUGE Knife tip on a gun at first glance. Lol.

Don't worry I thought the same thing for a sec. lol

Insert "that's not a knife" jokes here.

that looks pretty chaos-y to me.

Maybe a new Chosen/CSM kit?

 Alpharius wrote:
So, not 2nd edition then?

I largely skipped 40K 3rd ("The Blandening") and only came back with 4th.

Pretty sure it was 2nd, I remember an old friend and my main 40K opponent at the time using it and he'd moved away and joined the army well before 3rd, and we've not played each other since.


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 Crazyterran wrote:
that looks pretty chaos-y to me.

Maybe a new Chosen/CSM kit?

The hanging bolt shell links rather than a magazine is either Chaos or Orks, unless it's some other Heresy-era throwback like a Cypher or similar (who isn't overtly chaotic in his imagery.)

Space Wolves have some dangling bolt shells in the Terminator kit.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
So, not 2nd edition then?

I largely skipped 40K 3rd ("The Blandening") and only came back with 4th.

Pretty sure it was 2nd, I remember an old friend and my main 40K opponent at the time using it and he'd moved away and joined the army well before 3rd, and we've not played each other since.

I'd bet money it was a 3rd Edition thing.

Now, I'm not a gambler, so, take that for what it is worth!

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
that looks pretty chaos-y to me.

Maybe a new Chosen/CSM kit?

The hanging bolt shell links rather than a magazine is either Chaos or Orks, unless it's some other Heresy-era throwback like a Cypher or similar (who isn't overtly chaotic in his imagery.)

Are CSM's getting a new kit, or will this just be a "Cypher Thing"?