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Hey everyone i have a quick and easy tut to make weathering powder like you would see on forge world. if you want me to post pics i can, just say something

Materials: Charcoal
What ever you use to grind something to powder

Steps:
1. grab a few pieces of charcoal
2. put charcoal in whatever you use to grind it ( i use a small bowl and a dowel rod)
3. grind to a fine powder

if you what to know how to use it they have a great tut on forge world.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF//w/weathering-powders.pdf

   
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Errr..yeah.

Charcoal doesn't work so hot as a full on weathering medium. It's too chunky. The point is to get a fine particulate.

If you want a cheap, inexpensive way to weather metal or make it look burnt...use a sharpened #2 pencil, shaving the graphite off over the area you're working with.
   
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for any colour weathering use coloured pastels. what i do is apply a stipled base colour then scrape )lets say dark brown) onto it and with a dry brush stipple it in then apply selent than if want more repet prosses look at my baneblade in the gallery to see for your self my technique

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Id have to go with taking mechanical pencil graphite and powdering that...

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technicaly putting charcoal into a coffe grinder could provide a fine enough powder but everyone else has provided easier techniques

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The problem with graphite is that it's shiny. As for me, I won't use real charcoal. Charcoal sticks (the ones used for drawing), on the other hand, are easier to crush and make into powder (even easier than graphite). It also comes in different shades, from very black to dark brown, and available in any decent art store.

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Gathering the Informations.

Graphite is shiny...until you mix it with a small amount of Matte Medium.
   
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nurgles_warrior wrote:for any colour weathering use coloured pastels. what i do is apply a stipled base colour then scrape )lets say dark brown) onto it and with a dry brush stipple it in then apply selent than if want more repet prosses look at my baneblade in the gallery to see for your self my technique


Pastel is what I use as well and so do many modelers. Cheap, comes in a great variety of colors and easy to work with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KyybEH-KzY

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I use pastels ground up with a mortar and pestle, gives good results and I get a pretty fine powder from it.

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What type of pastels chalks would you guys reccomend?


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Kanluwen wrote:Errr..yeah.

Charcoal doesn't work so hot as a full on weathering medium. It's too chunky. The point is to get a fine particulate.

If you want a cheap, inexpensive way to weather metal or make it look burnt...use a sharpened #2 pencil, shaving the graphite off over the area you're working with.


Errr yea....

it does work k. OP got the right idea and direction.



Lysenis wrote:What type of pastels chalks would you guys reccomend?


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I buy mine from local rail road model shop



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Are we all that cheap that we can't shell out $5 for a tub of Mig pigments that will last hundreds of models? I could weather like 5 armies heavily with one little tub of Mig rust.

And pastel chalks have binders, which can react oddly with different fixers. So there's that. Cheapies.

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There are 2 things excellent about the chalks even with binder.

a) so many colors!!!!!

b) binder have its advantages when not used as pigment /wink

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what i'd use is eye shadow and dab it onto the model

   
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Aerethan wrote:Are we all that cheap that we can't shell out $5 for a tub of Mig pigments that will last hundreds of models? I could weather like 5 armies heavily with one little tub of Mig rust.

And pastel chalks have binders, which can react oddly with different fixers. So there's that. Cheapies.
It is not that I am cheaps, it is the fact taht I wish to be more proactive and while I am not a scultor, I do wish to tweak and play around with my own form of pigments and combinations. This goes for washes as well.

If anyone has noticed, companies sell just basic sets that will apeal to everyone. They do not make specific combinations and such which is good business practice but at the same time limiting to those that want more and dont want to pay for a set tht they will have to mix together themselves. Might as well just make it themselves.
   
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This is some awesome knowledge. I don't know how I never thought of it. I'm amazed what I can learn on here.
   
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Chipperwig wrote:This is some awesome knowledge. I don't know how I never thought of it. I'm amazed what I can learn on here.


We discourage learning here! Knock it off!

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Right on. I will avert my attention if I find myself retaining new information.
   
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i could do with some white weather powder atm, wonder if i still have those pastels laying around....
   
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Personally I liked the advice on powders they had in the IA masterclass book: use both.

Pigments and pastels do in fact act and look different from each-other. Powders tend to be finer and more even, pastels grainier. By using both you can get deeper and more interesting effect. It is the same reason you use multiple colors for rust or mud, and the same reason make-up compacts always have multiple colors. The more varied the textures and colors, the better the effect.

If you can afford it (and most people can for 5-8$) it's better to use pastels and powders.

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I use eye shadow for weathering, its amazing, and if you mess it up, you can wash it off

dont forget to use fixative on it after you've finished though

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nirvana69 wrote:Id have to go with taking mechanical pencil graphite and powdering that...

That makes metallic weathering powder not black, it is superb for weathering tank tracks after rusting them up.
As the parts that make contact with the road stay shiny steel and do not rust.

   
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Im surprised nobody has mentioned womens make-up. 1000s of colors and very fine.
   
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Rickfactor wrote:Im surprised nobody has mentioned womens make-up. 1000s of colors and very fine.


you should scroll up 2 posts then....

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Aerethan wrote:Are we all that cheap that we can't shell out $5 for a tub of Mig pigments that will last hundreds of models? I could weather like 5 armies heavily with one little tub of Mig rust.

And pastel chalks have binders, which can react oddly with different fixers. So there's that. Cheapies.


I do shell out for the MiG pigments...the metallic ones. For non-metallic colors I use non-pastel chalk which I picked up a set of 16 colors at Michael's for $5 on sale. The big benefit for me, being color blind, is that the MiG pigments...well, if I need rust it says "Rust" right on the tub. I'm not big on mixing my own colors, but the non-pastel chalks are frikiin' cheap and easy to use.

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Has anyone tries pan pastels? I got some from my local art store and they are very nice for shading.
http://www.panpastel.com/techniques.html

 
   
 
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