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Apologies if this has already been posted...I was alerted to this by a message from the Collecting Citadel Miniatures board.

This is produced by a Chinese company called "S'Show Miniature".

eBay klink is : http://cgi.ebay.com/40K-Origina-Orcs-Resin-kit-Orc-Super-Lilla-Kan-28mm-/260650226381?pt=AU_Miniatures

Padre^.

Not sure about Super, maybe they should have named it Pregnant Killa Kan - she's just about to pop!

On a more serious note, I'd be surprised if Killa Kan was not a trademarked unit name (most GW unit names outwith the most generic seem to be included in the Big List on the front page of their publications) or is this an example of China getting away with murder because the rest of the world is too busy fawning and cr@pping themselves to keep in with the worlds favourite totalitarian regime?

It does highlight a problem with GW in that Ork kits, by their nature, are impossible to truly protect from an IP standpoint because they look like cobbled together junk.

S'Show could have made their lives easier, though, by not including the pole with the glyph on and calling it a 'junkyard battle robot' or some such, while going *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* to Ork players the world over.


Whilst I'm sure GW legal will be having a look at this, unless the bottom barrel flips open to reveal "mini-Killa-Kan" (in which case people will buy it for laughs) I'm not sure it'll sell in any event. Its just too wierdly unbalanced IMHO.

on ebay:
40K Origina Orcs Resin kit Orc Super Lilla Kan 28mm.

No trademarks problem

Looks like a constipated dust-bin IMHO, well just my 5 cents...

Nice levels of detail though..


Wait $98??? WTF

The canopy area is oddly shaped, there's a big gap here and it's not clear why?

and there also selling an ork tank that looks great as well
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-Resin-Kit-Warhammer-40K-Ork-Tank_W0QQitemZ250682062093QQcategoryZ44122QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL%252BSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIEW%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D260648658484%252B260648658484%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6344291734856667136

Here a better link plus pic (about 112 US-$):
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Resin-Kit-Warhammer-40K-Ork-Tank-28mm-/250682061799?pt=AU_Miniatures


And he also has some 1/35 WW2 walkers like this one:

Chimera_Calvin wrote:or is this an example of China getting away with murder because the rest of the world is too busy fawning and cr@pping themselves to keep in with the worlds favourite totalitarian regime?

Chinese companies get away with violating copyright/trademarks because as I understand it under Chinese law this would not be a violation. It has nothing at all to do with what anyone thinks of the Chinese government.

I agree though- this thing needs to drop some tin boyz. Or maybe just bounce around like a hippity-hop.

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To avoid a flamewar I have PM'd John to explain a few things.

Shall we keep this on topic?

Modquisition on. Chimera Clavin is right. Lets get back to topic and avoid further attacks or more warnings/suspensions will be issued.

the spidery walker is fairly neat - I think it needs some panel lines to look more WWII, and the legs seem spindly maybe its the feet.

The tank is at least as snazzy as the FW ones.

The walker... so-so.

The tank? Awesome!

This was funny:

eBay auction question wrote:

Questions and answers about this item

Q: Hi, is this price correct? it seems a little high.......
A: Hi,this is the correct price.The model is high quality.Trust me. Thank you. caomao1122^_^

well, if he said he's trustworthy, then he must be. no one lies over the internet... ever!!

i think both are ok sculpts but they don't impress me enough to want to buy them (especially since i've sold off most of my orks) at that price. if you're going to be "inspired" by someone else's work/IP, you should at least price your work lower than the official stuff.

Not a fan of that kan myself, that tank looks like It would be useful in a half track conversion or something.

A bit pricey for conversion use though, isn't it?

Still, it will be interesting to see what else they come up with.

That tank is awesome!

There are a number of small Chinese companies that have become very adept at resin casting. I've seen copies of FW models which have had sharper detail and less flaws than the originals.

The problem with these is that they look like they were designed by someone who had a quick flick through some photos of the FW Ork models then built them from scratch. They're vaguely familiar, but sort of 'off'.

China does have IP laws, but they are not enforced particularly rigourously or consistently. The Chinese legal system is still very primitive and far too politicised to be a reliable means of enforcing legal rights - maintaining social order and the party's grip on everything is still their main purpose.

There is a flood of unlicensed Warhammer stuff from China on eBay these days. T-shirts, belt buckles, jewelry, watches and now models as well. It's interesting that the model posted here is on the Australian site rather than the US eBay site and the price definitely reflects that. GW legal in Nottingham must be going crazy trying to figure out how to stop this proliferation of unlicensed merchandise. Here's a link if you want to see some of the aforementioned merchandise.

The tank does look cool. And the unsubstantiated reassurance that the merchandise is high quality is amusing. My question is, has anyone here actually purchased any unlicensed Warhammer merchandise from China and if so, how was the quality and service? Did it arrive in a reasonable amount of time? How was the quality? If you had a problem with a defect how did they respond? I'm not sure I would take a chance on any of this stuff.

The tank look smore like an oversized grot tank. Not that this is really an issue (grot tanks are cool), but it doesn't look... Orky.

@Melissia , they dont look orky because they are basically metal slug rip offs with some GW ork glyph added on.

Count as Hydra , $30 me want


Count as Manticore , also want!

Dunno, the two words I'd use to describe them are "bland" and "mediocre", but maybe I've been overexposed to anime mecha (actually even amongst anime mecha they're bland).

LunaHound wrote:@Melissia , they dont look orky because they are basically metal slug rip offs with some GW ork glyph added on.

Luna - links to the place to purchase, please?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Resin-Kit-SF3D-Ma-K-1-35-TACO-34-AD-Type-New-/260650223153?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Kits

Chimera_Calvin wrote:Not sure about Super, maybe they should have named it Pregnant Killa Kan - she's just about to pop!

Hahaha!

I think that thing looks sweet, very Labrynth or Dark Crystal-esque.

I dig it!

Aren't products that infringe on copyrights supposed to be cheaper? :(

Although I do enjoy the resin casts from the russian lady on ebay Im dubious on chinese products until someone buys and posts!

Kirasu wrote:Aren't products that infringe on copyrights supposed to be cheaper? :(

Although I do enjoy the resin casts from the russian lady on ebay Im dubious on chinese products until someone buys and posts!

What are you dubious on o_o?