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This was mentioned in rumors a while back, as a possibility for DE equipment. But I was thinking more of an Imperial piece of wargear.


"Inferno Lance"
R24", S8 AP2, Heavy 1 Lance, Melta
Replacement weapon for Exorcists

A recently developed weapon, formerly used exclusively by the Mechanicus. The Ecclesiarchy, on the urging of the Sisters of Battle, purchased the rights to participate in the live fire testing of this weapon through various political maneuverings. The weapon is an enhanced form of multi-melta, a far more condensed beam which is comparable to a long-ranged cutting torch. Its range is not increased over the multi-melta, but its ability to cut through armor is-- it ALMOST replicates the Lance design used by the Eldar... though the Eldar would consider it unwieldly, remarkably primitive, and somewhat inefficient-- for extended battles, the vehicles that use it often have to be supported by Rhinos converted into ammunition carriers.

Note, I think this is roughly balanced... half the range of the Exorcist Missile Launcher, and only a single shot instead of D6, in exchange for hitting much harder.

My Eldar is a little rusty. Lance = Armor counts as 12 at most, right?

Yes.

That's why I reduced it to AP2. Adding AP1 to that would be a bit much I think.

Hmmm.... I would have to see it in action. I would say make it Ordinance, but then it would be even better with Tank killing than it already is.

How many points are we talking about with this upgrade? Becuase this weapon would kill a tank every turn when it got into range.

Also, and I know this is what you meant in the first place, but Imperial weapon, no, SoB weapon, yes.

The whole vehicle (Exorcist Lancer?) would cost 135 points, same as the normal Exorcist. The tank would only have a single weapon, and it's only FA13, and it would not be Fast.

Too powerful. On 2D6 with Str8 you will always at least glance AV10. Its 83% on penning av 12 and you're asking for something much better then the devil dog.

If you're up for making crazy rules why not ...

R24" Str2 AP2 Melta, Lance Heavy 3D3.

... 3-9 shots a turn with good odds VS vehicles

Tri wrote:Too powerful. On 2D6 with Str8 you will always at least glance AV10. Its 83% on penning av 12 and you're asking for something much better then the devil dog.

If you're up for making crazy rules why not ...

R24" Str2 AP2 Melta, Lance Heavy 3D3.

... 3-9 shots a turn with good odds VS vehicles

I don't get the point in complaining that str8 on 2d6 will most likely pen av 10 vehicles. You must think multi-meltas are too powerful then.

Also, to the person who would make this ordnance. NO! That would be a bit too powerful and wouldn't make sense for it to have a blast marker and be lance. Those are sorta the opposite effects in my mind.

As is, I'd say it's not too bad. It's a lot better against AV 14 than the exorcist but worse against AV 10-12 because you get a lot less shots and if you miss, you've put yourself in a dangerous positing being 12 inches away from what ever you were shooting at.

SamplesoWoopass wrote:Also, to the person who would make this ordnance. NO! That would be a bit too powerful and wouldn't make sense for it to have a blast marker and be lance. Those are sorta the opposite effects in my mind.

I said Ordnance, not Ordinance Blast. Big differance

I could see it being 135 points if this was it's only gun.

How about the Exorcist Purgator?

Purgator already has other connotations in my mind. I thought "lancer" because Sisters have a Crusader Knights theme going for them, and so I figured it fit.

Yeah, this is its only gun. I mean you can purchase a pintle SB of course, but most Rhino based vehicles can do that.

Melissia wrote:Purgator already has other connotations in my mind. I thought "lancer" because Sisters have a Crusader Knights theme going for them, and so I figured it fit.

Yeah, this is its only gun. I mean you can purchase a pintle SB of course, but most Rhino based vehicles can do that.

Again, I would have to witness it in action, but it seems pretty good. You either have more range and more shots for less punch, or shorter range and fewer shots with more punch.

I am now even more angered. Why is every army getting lance weapons, and they are all better than the eldar ones. I miss eldar being unique.

Because this is 5th edition, and it really is time to branch out rules to every army for their use.

I'm all for the idea of a lance weapon for the sisters, but I think instead of it being melta, it should have a longer range.

But that's just my personal opinion...

Either reduce the range or make it so it counts as ordnance without the benefits (so the Excorcist would need to not move and not fire any other weapons). It'd be fairly balanced (ish) then.

If it was ordnance, it could roll two dice and pick the highest, now how would that work with Melta? Also would it be fair with having lance?

Besides, Sisters of Battle vehicles never usually have more than one weapon...

That we know of anyway, but that's beside the point. It's AV13, not fast, 24" range, and it's a heavy S8 weapon WITHOUT the AP1 bonus.

I'm really worried about stacking even MORE mobility penalties on this vehicle-- that would make it completely and utterly useless. If I'm going to make it ordnance I'd really need to increase it to front armor 14 in order to NOT have it die before it can fire every single game.

Sisters already have enough useless units.

Melissia wrote:
Sisters already have enough useless units.

So don't make a new one. They already have enough useful units too.

DarknessEternal wrote:

Melissia wrote:
Sisters already have enough useless units.

So don't make a new one. They already have enough useful units too.

Nowhere NEAR enough for fifth edition.

True dat. I think this vehicle is pretty good, just I'd like to see the range increased...

Also I love the idea of a fast vehicle Sisters of Battle Army, so I like it being fast!

I don't see how that would be possible, fluff wise, but I like it. You still need to roll a 5 on stuff like land raiders...So make it ordinance