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So ive tried out a few builds now and thought i should stay with one for some time. This is what i came up with would work and still be fun to play. It is nothing fancy, i know that lots of lists look this way but i can't help it. I enjoy playing it.

I will be explaining some of the things after the list.

HQ

Big Mek: KFF, power klaw, cybork, attack squig 135

Ghazghkull Thraka 225


ELITE

5 x Lootas 75

5 x Lootas 75

5 x Lootas 75


TROOPS

19 x Boyz: Shootas, Nob with PK & bosspole 154

19 x Boyz: Shootas, Nob with PK & bosspole 154

18 x Boyz: Shootas, Nob with PK & bosspole 148

12 x Boyz: Sluggas, Nob with PK & bosspole mounted in trukk 147

12 x Boyz: Sluggas, Nob with PK & bosspole mounted in trukk 147

12 x Boyz: Sluggas, Nob with PK & bosspole mounted in trukk 147


FAST ATTACK

Deffkopta: Twin linked rokkit, Buzzsaw 70

Deffkopta: Twin linked rokkit, Buzzsaw 70


HEAVY SUPPORT

Battlewagon: Deff rolla, Boarding plank, Paint job, Big shoota 125

Battlewagon: Deff rolla, Boarding plank, Paint job, Big shoota 125

Battlewagon: Deff rolla, Boarding plank, Paint job, Big shoota 125


Total 1997


So the list has no real suprises but it is strong, it works and it is alot of fun to play with so what more could one ask for? So the choices are all pretty clear, the only real question mark here is the equipment on my Big Mek. The Powerklaw, Cybork and Attack squig is a few points that could be spent otherwise but nah, not this time. I really want the Mek to deliver a few shots in CC aswell in each game. So there is no option here to change is equipment, just so you all know.

Besides that i believe that these choices are optimal for such a list.

If you do have some other thoughts or ideas i do not mind discussing them, all tips are welcome (exept the Big Mek equipment, hehe)

How has the 3 units of 5 Lootas been working for you? It seems good enough since you don't run at the first death, but damnit if those 2 deaths don't just happen way too fast for me. Have you tried 2 units of 7/8 or just one big ol' unit of 15?

I have tried almost every number there is. I would prefer to run the size 15 so they would become fearless but i just don't have to points to get more then one unit like that.

I also really want to be able to split my fire if needed, so the 5's is pretty much what i need. They have been working great btw. I have tried 3 x 7, 3 x 8, 3 x 10 and so on. I did not like either of them. Either i run 5 or 15, to much points invested in a unit of 8 that so easily runs of the table. The 75 points that might run for me is not that big a hit.

So all in all it works good.

teknistmajjan wrote:I have tried almost every number there is. I would prefer to run the size 15 so they would become fearless but i just don't have to points to get more then one unit like that.

I also really want to be able to split my fire if needed, so the 5's is pretty much what i need. They have been working great btw. I have tried 3 x 7, 3 x 8, 3 x 10 and so on. I did not like either of them. Either i run 5 or 15, to much points invested in a unit of 8 that so easily runs of the table. The 75 points that might run for me is not that big a hit.

So all in all it works good.

As a more experienced ork player, would you say 10 lootas or 2 units of 5 would be best? I intend to get more, but no monies

@Kynelius
I've been working with multiple units of 5 lootas and they work very well for the points especially at 2000 and less.

@OP
You forgot to leave room for Ghazz in a battlewagon. You've got room for your KFF but one of the other squads of boys needs to drop by 2 models.

As far as the list goes it's extremely blah. It plays like every other ghazz battlewagon list out there and will struggle against IG, SW and any army mobile enough to get side shots with str 8 or higher on your battlewagons.

Trukks are still bad. You'd do better with a 4th battlewagon full of nobs and some gretchin squads to fill in the last points and hold a home objective while not detracting much from your assault capability by much.

@MrDrumMachine: I have got one shotoa mob with 18 models and two with 19 so i can fit the big mek into one of the 19 ones and ghazghkull into the one with 18 models.

Yes some might think it is blah, i don't and thats why i enjoy playing it. Regarding IG and SW. Of course all lists have a certain weakness, it still wont matter how much i mix it up some armies will always have something that can wreck havoc.

Trukks are awfull at many things but they are atleast fast. For what i use them to they are serving a purpose. I do not want to run 4 battlewagons really. 3 is enough for me.

Thanks for the input.

Kynelius wrote:

teknistmajjan wrote:I have tried almost every number there is. I would prefer to run the size 15 so they would become fearless but i just don't have to points to get more then one unit like that.

I also really want to be able to split my fire if needed, so the 5's is pretty much what i need. They have been working great btw. I have tried 3 x 7, 3 x 8, 3 x 10 and so on. I did not like either of them. Either i run 5 or 15, to much points invested in a unit of 8 that so easily runs of the table. The 75 points that might run for me is not that big a hit.

So all in all it works good.

As a more experienced ork player, would you say 10 lootas or 2 units of 5 would be best? I intend to get more, but no monies

2x5 is much better than 1x10 for the following reasons. With 2x5, you can shoot twice as many targets per turn which allows you to reliably shake a tank per turn anywhere on the board. Also, after losing 2 and failing Ld on 7, you only have 45pts of models running away. Conversely, with 10, you only need to lose 3 models before 105pts run off the board. You also can only threaten one half of the board per turn.

Claypool wrote:

Kynelius wrote:

teknistmajjan wrote:I have tried almost every number there is. I would prefer to run the size 15 so they would become fearless but i just don't have to points to get more then one unit like that.

I also really want to be able to split my fire if needed, so the 5's is pretty much what i need. They have been working great btw. I have tried 3 x 7, 3 x 8, 3 x 10 and so on. I did not like either of them. Either i run 5 or 15, to much points invested in a unit of 8 that so easily runs of the table. The 75 points that might run for me is not that big a hit.

So all in all it works good.

As a more experienced ork player, would you say 10 lootas or 2 units of 5 would be best? I intend to get more, but no monies

2x5 is much better than 1x10 for the following reasons. With 2x5, you can shoot twice as many targets per turn which allows you to reliably shake a tank per turn anywhere on the board. Also, after losing 2 and failing Ld on 7, you only have 45pts of models running away. Conversely, with 10, you only need to lose 3 models before 105pts run off the board. You also can only threaten one half of the board per turn.

I have to agree here. 1 x 10 is not as good as 2 x 5 in my oppinion. Just being able to split the fire is worth it.

So just wanted to do a small update on how the list has been working out for me lately.

I made a small change where i removed the koptas and inserted a unit of warbikes with a nob (This is done since i don't own any koptas myself and i do have bikes, otherwise koptas would go in here)

The list is fantasic. I do not regret removing my unit of Nobz at all. Sure there are times where a Nob unit would be cool to use but in the end with getting the warbikes, and more wounds and not losing that much hitting power.

So well, so far the list have not lost a match.

teknistmajjan wrote:So just wanted to do a small update on how the list has been working out for me lately.

I made a small change where i removed the koptas and inserted a unit of warbikes with a nob (This is done since i don't own any koptas myself and i do have bikes, otherwise koptas would go in here)

The list is fantasic. I do not regret removing my unit of Nobz at all. Sure there are times where a Nob unit would be cool to use but in the end with getting the warbikes, and more wounds and not losing that much hitting power.

So well, so far the list have not lost a match.

Use buggies.

Drop a boyz mob and loota and replace with Burnas and ride them with Ghaz. No armor saves on the charge if you don't fire with Ghaz.

Maybe drop 2 Trukks mob and replace with a Nob Mob for a sick dead killy unit. Then fill up with Gretchin for objectives. Drop the upgrades on the Big Mek, he should only run KFF at most.

I am sorry but i was not looking for any advice at all here really. Read the last post that i made and you will understand.