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Here is my list... I'm still doing adjustments. I'd appreciate any ideas.. so far with this list I'm at 1830.
The ideas I get, are take a +5 equip from a nob and give a kopta a buzzsaw, or add some things to my Battlewagons.
Take away a kopta and nob equip and give two koptas saws.
Note: I have Night goblins from Fantasy but no circle bases, not sure how that will work out.
Old list
Spoiler:
1830 (20 points in the air)
HQ: [310]
1 Ghazghkull Thraka 225 points.
1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.
Troops: [635]
19 Slugga Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 154 points.
(Battle Wagon B. w. Big Mek)
If you are not going to give those Deffkoptas buzzsaws then you are better of running warbuggies. Same utility, cheaper cost and vehicle rules/armor. Also I would try and give all the BW Armor plates.
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HQ:
Big mek, nice and standard...
Thrakka, well... I love him... He's strong, can take out almost anything, gives nice rule to entire army... But quite expensive and should be in imo only if there are pts left...
TROOPS:
In 1850, you play 31 boyz, 7 nobz and 15 burnas... Thing is, I think you need more boyz... 15 burnas are, imo overkill (5 templates are more than enough... 15 is too much) so I'd drop few burnas in favor of upgrading boyz to 2 full battlewagons...
As for trukks, don't know... I personally find them to squishy to use.. Rather find pts for 4th battlewagon (don't forget, 1 can be dedicated transport for nobz)....
FAST ATTACK:
koptas are pretty bad for 45 pts, since you can have exactly the same thing (well, almost) for 35 with buggies... I personally always play koptas, but with buzzsaw... I'd think of adding buzzsaws and dropping one koptas...
ELITES:
Lootas are great the way you took them...
burnas as I said, imo little to much... Drop down few and I'd add one mek to repair your bw... I find it quite nice addon
HEAVY SUPPORT:
Battlewagons are standard... I just play extra armor (that way result of 1,2,3 and 4 on glancing don't hurt you a lot, otherwise 3 on glancing won't let you move) and don't play rpj... But that's just me... Also I add grabbin klaw and boarding plak, but they are first to go out of the list when I need pts...
All in all decent list... Don't know how much experience you have with it, but main problem will be opponents splitting shooty force... That way you don't have time to take out everything... I play snikrot kommandos to keep opponent off the edges....
Also, scoring will be problem, not so much d3+2, but with home objective... I always play 10 gretchins to babysit my home objective...
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Firstly, if you take koptas, they pretty much HAVE to have buzzsaws. Other wise whats the point? TL rokkits sure, but as stated buggies are better for TL rokkits. I personally always take buggies over koptas but thats me. So either drop a kopta and add saws, or drop the koptas and add buggies.
I agree with the burnas. For what you use them on, taking only 5 is just an easy KP. Id say IF you were to drop any, Id go no lower then 10, as thats still alot of templates. Sticking Ghaz with them I think is a good idea as well really. Assaulting with them, and dishing out all those power weapon attacks, will just make Ghazes job that much easier, and killing for him is already pretty easy.
I think the lootas is also a solid how your taking them. Ive always seen it done right, 2 ways. Full squad to just vomit bullets on 1 unit a time, or split like that, to either shoot both at 1 unit, or split them. Lootas are just the tits IMO.
And the BW look like the should for what your using them with. Just remember to run them close to the KFF wagon so they can all benefit from it. Not to mention running wagons close together keeps the shots at the sides down as well. So its win win if you ask me.
So yea a little tweeking and youll be set. Whatcha taking this list against? And will their be a battle rep?
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KingCracker wrote:Firstly, if you take koptas, they pretty much HAVE to have buzzsaws. Other wise whats the point? TL rokkits sure, but as stated buggies are better for TL rokkits. I personally always take buggies over koptas but thats me. So either drop a kopta and add saws, or drop the koptas and add buggies.
I agree with the burnas. For what you use them on, taking only 5 is just an easy KP. Id say IF you were to drop any, Id go no lower then 10, as thats still alot of templates. Sticking Ghaz with them I think is a good idea as well really. Assaulting with them, and dishing out all those power weapon attacks, will just make Ghazes job that much easier, and killing for him is already pretty easy.
I think the lootas is also a solid how your taking them. Ive always seen it done right, 2 ways. Full squad to just vomit bullets on 1 unit a time, or split like that, to either shoot both at 1 unit, or split them. Lootas are just the tits IMO.
And the BW look like the should for what your using them with. Just remember to run them close to the KFF wagon so they can all benefit from it. Not to mention running wagons close together keeps the shots at the sides down as well. So its win win if you ask me.
So yea a little tweeking and youll be set. Whatcha taking this list against? And will their be a battle rep?
I'm not all sure who's going to the tourney.
I know my meta is mostly SM or MEQ, IG, Tau, and Necrons.
I didn't say to take 5 burnas... Actually, I was thinking 10 of them... I just said that 15 is imo overkill bellow 2000pts and you can free 75pts... I don't think 5 is best way to field them, I just think that 5 templates are good enough for burning hordes
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However... I came up with this since I made 2 buggies to have 3.
List comes out to 1830, with this... I can tweak a Nob equip and field another Nob with a BC, or I can maybe add some more equips to other things like vehicles. I'm leaning towards the extra nob.
HQ: [310]
1 Ghazghkull Thraka 225 points.
1 Ork Big Mek (KFF) 85 points.
Troops: [635]
19 Slugga Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 154 points.
(Battle Wagon B. w. Big Mek)
Chinchilla wrote:I'd drop combi-rokkit and ammo runt... That's 10pts for one shot rokkit with 55,55% chance to hit... I'd go with just nob with bc and cybork...
Hey hey. A few pointers from me would be do drop burnaz to 10, 15 is to many here when you really need more numbers. You need boyz, atleast one unit more. It is all good to have heavy troops like lootas, burnaz, nobz and what not but not if the price would be low boyz numbers.
What mercer earlier tried to say was that if you have battlewagons with boyz these boyz should have shootas since you will be moving at a slower speed and can shoot if you like.
If your boyz are in a TRUKK then they should have slugga since they will hopefully be in CC within a turn or two.
I will try to explain why these changes would make the list better.
When you play Orks you have one really good choice and that is Boyz. Well your other choices is good to but boyz are cheap. A good Ork list consists of a heavy base of boyz, the rest are other units with special purposes.
I do not reccomend anyone to run a lower number then 60 boyz if they are not running nob bikers. The reason is that your opponent will not have that hard a time to eliminate all your troops exept the Nobz. This means he will win most games due to you not being able to contest objectives.
Now i might be a bit over the top sometimes. I usually run 80+ boyz and if i have the chance i pop in even more. Even if you have a wagon list you can still swarm your opponent. I have even dropped nobz out to run even more boyz in wagons in a few lists and it works great. But if you really want to keep the Nobz i would drop them down to 6 + painboy. Then drop 5 burnaz, snag a few points here and there and get yourself another unit of shoota boyz.
This would make the list far more competetive, cause as it is now i think most people will just ignore ghazghkull and the nobz then swipe rest of the troops.
What mercer earlier tried to say was that if you have battlewagons with boyz these boyz should have shootas since you will be moving at a slower speed and can shoot if you like.
Boyz moving 12'' still can't shoot... What will you do? Travel 6'' and shoot with bs 2 or travell 12'' and assault with 76 s4 attacks and 4 PK attacks?
teknistmajjan wrote:I do not reccomend anyone to run a lower number then 60 boyz if they are not running nob bikers. The reason is that your opponent will not have that hard a time to eliminate all your troops exept the Nobz. This means he will win most games due to you not being able to contest objectives.
And if you're playing wagon rush... Then you can survive with few less boyz...
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