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http://fieldsofwar.blogspot.com/
This is a game that I am will be set on the continent of the Ancestors and be during the war of redemption. This is a time when it is essentially every race for themselves and massive battles are fought over nothing and tiny skirmishes are fought as if everything is on the line. this is where troll war drums beat against the rhythms of dwarf warhorns while gnome harvesters duel with Ratkin Storm Bikes. And all of this goes on while the armies of the North march down the continent looking for supplies.
Please read and comment on.

jaggedjaw wrote:http://fieldsofwar.blogspot.com/
Please read and comment on.

To be honest it is a little confusing and disorganized. With something like this it would help to have the top post be an explanation of what I am supposed to be reading. I am going to be brutally honest here with you...... it seems very uninspired and uninspiring. All your names are pretty much something of something. I mean a little more creativity would go a long way. Writing is rather poor too. Not saying I could do a better job but that is pretty bad.

Ok I finished reading the entire blog and really it is rather horrible. You could at least have run your blog through a spell check BEFORE posting it.

ok i fixed the spelling errors which arent supposed to be there. And i did run it through a spell check. and I was a little ambiguous when i posted it here.

jaggedjaw wrote:ok i fixed the spelling errors which arent supposed to be there. And i did run it through a spell check. and I was a little ambiguous when i posted it here.

So could you explain what this is all about?

i redid the first post and put what its about there.

Hmmmm its not showing up for me. Guess I just don't really get what you are working on. Is this your own homebrewed wargame rules or are you just doing some kind of fan fiction stuff?

its homebrew.

Is this the fantasy version of Shadow War?

yes and no

Hey, I thought the scarecrow idea was really cool.

thank you and new post.
also i wanted to get your opinions on 2 armies i wanted to add

Yeah at first I thought Lord Carl was an uncreative name. Then as I finished the Scarecrow part I found it quite fitting and a little humorous. The Gamaria people seem to advanced to the rest of the world (Carl aside), with the ability to make titanium and all.

thank you again and Gamaria is supposed to be in the Steam Punk era so they are more advance.
And the Scarecrows are just robots but since they don't know what robots are, they think they are some sort of demon.

ok i have several things i wanted your opinions on before i posted them

new races(i wanted to remove 1 but im not sure which one0

Visar of the norther plains
-Visar is a relatively backwards country where the crossbow is only just making its debut. They live in a manorial type system where the knights and nobles are the rulers and Beation is there only god(who coincidentally is considered to be the destroyer of man by followers of chaos). The Visar lord priest, Vaentrum, recently received a vision from Beation telling him to lead the nation of Visar in a holy crusade against the thousands of infidels and none humans who inhabit the world. Now large multitudes of visar knights, serfs, vassals, and nobles march to rid the world of all those who do not follow Beation.

The people of Inaros
-Inaros is a large continent about three fifths the size of the Darklands and about twice as productive. The Inaros are primitive even by there, however, they make extensive use of the earth spirits known as Golems and have such an extensive range of troops available that it doesn't matter how advance they are. They now march to war to protect Inaros from the foreign invaders who plague it almost daily.

Slave rebs of Garmaria
-its is a well known fact that Garmaria uses slaves very extensively and that the Garmarian government is very oppresive. It is an equaly known fact that Garmaria is corrently in the middle of a full scale civil war. Known as the Epitical Rebellion it pits the escaped slaves and the turn coats of the Eptical party(a political party trying to sieze control of the government) and the Proud and faithfull Loyalist armies. The Epitical Rebeliion has lasted 15 years and has pulled more than 500,000 Garmarian soldiers away from other important conflicts.

Plain riders
-the Plain Riders are a coalition of several nations forces including the centaurs, satyrs, Cyclops, botants(a plant like creation of the satyrs), and large number of other groups tp various to mention. They live in tent cities all over the world but the highest concentration of them are in the goblin plains. They ride to war to reclaim the lost lands of the numerous nations and to stop the spread of chaos.

vampires
-vampires are vile blood sucking humans who stalk the night and live for many centuries. They are self centered and raise countless hordes of zombies, skeletons, ghouls, ghosts, and other foul and hideous creatures. They march to war for as many reasons as there are stars in the sky and almost all of the reasons are vile by anyone's standards.

then there is the three types of game play

campaign
-the type of play found in tournaments. Players start with a 1'x1' starting area, an HQ, and one leader. only one leader per army. no unit upgrades or special characters. Buildings are spc. rules are in play.

free play
-a stand alone game. players start with a 2'x8' staring area. must be atleast 2' between starting areas. only ships with transport or fly spc. rule allowed. units may take upgrades. 1to2 leaders are allowed.

naval war
-a stand alone game. only models with ship, land ship, fly, amphibious and aquatic spc. rule allowed. no spc. characters. Spc. ships and spc. admirals allowed. must designate one flagship.

the last thing is what should i make the models out of

paper
-large numbers can be made quickly
-cheep to make
-easy to replace

metal/plastic
-highly customizable
-hard to break

Hey guys, I'm the one who came up with the Reptillions, and helped out jaggedjaw here & there two. I came up with a bunch of quotes for them (approved by him):

''Humans are liars, Elves are arrogant, Dwarfs are greedy, Gnomes are foolish, Goblins are thieves, Trolls are imbeciles, Plain Riders are naive. I fail to see why this world needs such creatures.''
-Garakan, Reptillion Chief of the Bloodfang Tribe-

''No creature is perfect, but some are less perfect then others.
-Horatz, Reptillion Priest of Jahuak, a Temple-City-

''Once we've entered the Jungles, we had almost instantly been attacked by pesky mosquitoes. Not so long afterwords, angry wasps started attacking us. When we had set up camp, hundreds of poisonous snakes had crawled into our tents. Later that day, we went further into the jungle and we saw many giant lizards who had crushed most of us fugitives while others were eaten alive. If we were smart we would leave, but we went even further, and then we had met them, large lizards that walked like men, and the only thing they said was: 'you are not welcome here'. I had ran as far as my legs could take me, and after many days of being lost in the jungles, I've found freedoom, sometimes I wonder if those Lizards even wanted to...AH! SLAVE HANDELER! No its just a sheep herder."
-Bersk, former Scarecrow slave

''Dem Lizard boyz fink they's so betta den da rest of us, but we's crush 'em good. Too bad they's crushed lots of us two.''
-Gore Finga, Troll werchef

''One time, when I was passing through the Forests, I saw a group of those Reptillions. My heart started beating at a rapid rate, my breath was hard, my feet had frozen, I could not speak. They had looked at me, NO! They stared right into my very soul. I am not sure waht actuelly happened, but they had simply walked away into the darkness of the forests. Many say i was lucky, but I like to think that they simply did not see me as a threat.''
-Redhead Berger, Gnome engineer

''Let the Spirits of the Ancestors guide you, for without them, we are lost.''
-old Reptillion saying

What do you guys think?

So you've got lizardmen, dwarves, gnomes, elves, and every other fantasy trope here with some steampunk for good measure. The goblins even talk like lower class English hooligans. This doesn't seem any more inspired than your last set of ideas, I'm sorry to say.

@Brother SRM:
Well J.R.R. Tolkien wasn't that creative either. Elves, Dwarfs, Trolls, Giants, Flaming Giants, European Dragons & even Walking Trees are a part of the Norse Mythology.
Goblins on the other hand originate from China (although the Chinese version look more like Spiders then J.R.R.'s Goblins).

To tell you the truth, the only thing original about Lord of the Rings are: Orcs, Wargs, Hobbits, Ents & the Uruk-Hai.
Orcs & Wargs aren't copyrighted, you can simply rename Hobbits as Halflings (or simply use Gnomes instead), Ents can be renamed Treeman/Treekin/Treants (or simply use ordinary Walking Trees) & why would anybody use the Uruk-Hai when they can simply have Orcs and/or Trolls?

Cavalry etc. -Reptillion Reptosaurus Riders (ride on Reptosaurus , armed with Shields+Spears or Shortbows+Daggers, Amphibious) -Terrasaurus Riders (use bows while Terrasaurus fly) -Carnisaurus Riders (Heavy Cavalry, Spears+Shields, Light Armor) -Stegasaurus (Stegadons with Giant Crossbows & 3 crewman)

I think you would do better going to your local library, looking through the natural history section and seeing what modern day reptiles and lizards or cold blooded animals can fit your themes better rather than the obvious units above.

No, nothing is unique, everything has been done before but to be successful you need to think differently. Your fluff on the Reptillions could be lifted straight out of many other attempts at creating 'Lizardmen'.

Lizardmen, empowered by Ancient ones, protecting temple cities in the jungle from outsiders? Really?

Desserts, Savannahs, heath and moor land, tropics, sub tropics are all viable habitats and will generate new and unique ideas for the Reptillion development.

The Reptosaurus are simply giant Lizards. The Terrasaurus I think should stay (I don't know any other flying Reptile). Carnisaurus could be replaced with Giant Crocodile riders. And I keep telling him to rename the Stegasuarus to Trirasaurus, but he ain't listening. -_-

I'm also telling him to add new Units two:

Infantry:
-Reptillion Hunters (Javelins & Shields or Shortbows & Daggers)
-Reptillion Stalkers (Blowpipes & Daggers)

Cavalry, etc.:
-Ankasaurus (Ankylosaurus with Catapult on top)

ND999 wrote:@Brother SRM:
Well J.R.R. Tolkien wasn't that creative either. Elves, Dwarfs, Trolls, Giants, Flaming Giants, European Dragons & even Walking Trees are a part of the Norse Mythology.
Goblins on the other hand originate from China (although the Chinese version look more like Spiders then J.R.R.'s Goblins).

To tell you the truth, the only thing original about Lord of the Rings are: Orcs, Wargs, Hobbits, Ents & the Uruk-Hai.
Orcs & Wargs aren't copyrighted, you can simply rename Hobbits as Halflings (or simply use Gnomes instead), Ents can be renamed Treeman/Treekin/Treants (or simply use ordinary Walking Trees) & why would anybody use the Uruk-Hai when they can simply have Orcs and/or Trolls?

You're kidding, right?!! Your actually trying to compare your stuff to Tolkien? Did you bother to read Tolkien? The huge histories of the first and second age, the creation of several languages and alphabets, poetry, ballads, music. It's a huge amount of work.

You've got one hell of an ego to try and say it wasn't creative.

I ain't comparing my stuff to Tolkien, I'm just saying what I think. I gotta admit all that stuff is very impressive, but he is not 100% original you know? I'm just pointing out what isn't.

ND999 wrote:I ain't comparing my stuff to Tolkien, I'm just saying what I think. I gotta admit all that stuff is very impressive, but he is not 100% original you know? I'm just pointing out what isn't.

No one is 100% original.

But that isn't an excuse for why your's is very derivative.

ND999 wrote:I ain't comparing my stuff to Tolkien, I'm just saying what I think. I gotta admit all that stuff is very impressive, but he is not 100% original you know? I'm just pointing out what isn't.

If we are to be a shade pedantic, nothing is original.

But, you can make an idea or concept your own.


ND999

Infantry:
-Reptillion Hunters (Javelins & Shields or Shortbows & Daggers)
-Reptillion Stalkers (Blowpipes & Daggers)

Cavalry, etc.:
-Ankasaurus (Ankylosaurus with Catapult on top)

why not just pass him the Lizardmen armies book and be done with it? Change a few names here and there and blam,! Instant Tolkien eh?

look the retilions were his idea. And since im at a loss for lizard type units and they were his i just asked him to put down some stuff for them. Unfortunately i cant get rid of them because i already drew a map and i haven't been able to redraw it yet. i'll just look up some lizard things to use. untill then the current reptilion stuff is null and void.

That is what I'm saying, nobody is 100% original, duuuhhh...

And yes, the Lizardmen Army Book was the main inspiration. I hardly gave 5 minutes of thought to them, so it is obviously a Warhammer Lizardmen rip off.

ND999 wrote:That is what I'm saying, nobody is 100% original, duuuhhh...

And yes, the Lizardmen Army Book was the main inspiration. I hardly gave 5 minutes of thought to them, so it is obviously a Warhammer Lizardmen rip off.

:(
ok ive never read the lizardmen armybook so why didn't you tell me that?
I spent over a year on the original 11 and they are of an ok quality.

Just gave a bit more thought.

Remove the whole ''Temple-City'' thing. They should be more oriented to some African Tribes. I'm also redoing a lot of stuff for them two.

Well, off to hit some Dinosaur, Reptile & African books.

P.S. I feel like a dumbass

jaggedjaw wrote:

ND999 wrote:That is what I'm saying, nobody is 100% original, duuuhhh...

And yes, the Lizardmen Army Book was the main inspiration. I hardly gave 5 minutes of thought to them, so it is obviously a Warhammer Lizardmen rip off.

:(
ok ive never read the lizardmen armybook so why didn't you tell me that?
I spent over a year on the original 11 and they are of an ok quality.

Lesson learned jaggedjaw, check the provenance of any information you are provided with. Take a look around and do not just rely on generic fantasy and sci fi tropes.

FWIW I see the terradon idea as having potential as a gliding reptile able to launch itself from the ground and glide a short distance before having to land and repeat the process. Or maybe as a close combat unit, swooping into melee after launch from high place.

See, you got a flying unit that behaves differently and takes its cue from real life lizards, mammals and a snake that have a limited ability to glide from place to place.

Not the best idea, but certainly workable...if you keep with lizards as a theme.

I'm thinking of replacing the Reptillions with Stygians, but I ain't sure. If the Stygians gain positive feedback I'll use them, if not, then I'll drop the idea.

The Stygians in short are Elves with Blue skin that resemble the Ancient Greek. They are very peaceful & like to work on their economy. Their level of technology is not as high like of the Dwarfs or the Men of the Dominion, but they are eager to learn. They usually Ally themselves with any civilization who is in a trade friendly relationship with them.They do not fight to conquer, but rather to defend their Cities. However, their army is not to be underestimated, for every soldier is highly trained for battle & their forces are filled up with Allied races & strange Monsters of the continent.

The only thing you might complain about is their name, but to tell you the truth, Stygian originally means:
Dark and gloomy; Infernal or hellish; Of, or relating to the river Styx

If you don't believe me:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=PA8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&defl=en&q=define:stygian&sa=X&ei=LHTxTLZxjOw5rLjhyQo&ved=0CBIQkAE

Lizardmen that arn't lizards?

Dragons.

Alligators.

Snakes.

Make them two legged with wings, and give them cloths, instead of making them anywhere near "Lizardmen."

With what you have, expect a C and D from GW the minute it comes to ground. After all, GW invented everything, and everyone else stole thier ideas...

A nice setting that hasn't been done is just a genuine sewers/ caves system. Look at real Lizards, and just use thiers. Alligators don't really have much but a hole under the water. Why not just use them as ambush armies in jungle or woodland/ swamp environments? Other settings could be Apocalyptic, Wild West/ pretechnology, Savage Worlds, Sci Fi/ Space, or Modern day, just with the additional animorphs. Fantasy is ok, but hasn't it been done to death?

Some of these ideas are ok, but why not push the envelope, try a new approach and use your imagination?

One of the things popping up here and there are stuff like the Mouseguard thing, where people are taking animals and making them human. Why not try pushing the envelope and trying something different, like go more Planet of the Apes, but use different animals, I/E Island of Dr Moreau.

And fantasy? Why not use Sci Fi, or Modern day. Where they can use machine guns, or flame throwers, or rocket launchers, but the level of technology is lost, and these races are running around, relearning about it with thier own self absorbed ways, ( We're the snakes... WE are the top of the food chain, of course we came up with this explosive stick! "How does it work? It just does.. Because WE'RE the Snakes!")

How about things like mutants, or some sort of Animal Rights armies, some sort of off the wall stuff like fighting over water rights, or some other technology things, like fighting over a car engine or soemthing. Then when they get it, they have to run around trying to fight over the information to get it to work?

I think you have some great stuff to start out with, but when you started regurgitating ideas that are already on the table, you really lost the battle before you even came to the table.

Keep pushing, though. Take the critisizm with the praise, they are equally important.