"Farsight - Tau supplement" - released, discussion starts pg 8, new rumours on pg. 22

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**Zweischneid**

If it's anything like the Iyanden book, there'll be no limitation on not using Shadowsun/Aun'va

Quite the opposite. I'd be willing to be that the first one or two missions will actively encourage you to take these SCs along with Farsight, just as the first Iyanden missions make you play "pre-NomNom" Iyanden, Yriel without spear, etc.. ,etc..

Kinda comes with the territory. You cannot tell the story of the Farsight breakaway without starting in the happy pre-breakaway time. Cutting out Shadowsun/Aun'va would pretty much kill their ability to make a Farsight Enclave supplement similar to Iyanden.

**Rented Tritium**

I don't think any of those characters were alive when farsight was still with the main tau, though.

**Thachng**

I got the book off aus ibooks was available 4 hours ago

You don't get bodyguard unit but something like 8 names units to pick from there is a broadside, and riptide in there as well.

The earth cast array allows you reroll 1 for shooting and Nova rolls but your ws is 1 it's about 30pts was def made for riptides

Special rules are orkfighter and you cannot take tau book signature systems

Also i think the bonding knife is compulsory it's 5am and I only just work up

**warboss**

Is the fusion blade a signature system or just a regular weapon upgrade? What does it look like?

**Thachng**

removed as it had points

**Ironwill13791**

The big question is whether crisis suits can become troops or not.

**gossipmeng**

Ironwill13791 wrote:
The big question is whether crisis suits can become troops or not.

It was already confirmed, yes.

Thachng wrote:
Just got the book you can choose from a number of commanders one of them is a riptide that can reroll the Nova roll

All crisis suits are troops

You can't take aun va or shadowsun

Fusion blades are in .

This is my new army

**Thachng**

I guess the apoc formation is taking the commander team that replaces the bodyguard team instead of pick body guards you must pick from a commander team of 8 I think every suit type is represented it's a normal formation but the points cost for having 8 commanders would only make it viable in apocalypse

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Must include 1 crisis team of 3 models not including the droned and yes crisis are troops

The commanders war gear consist of normal signature systems so you don't fully lose access to it just they come in pre made characters

**Kroothawk**

Just for the record:

The Black Library newsletter of today confirmed, that the printed version will be available in 3 months!

anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:As for the delay between digital and print:

It's to due with a physical production backlog. The current printers used can't actually keep up with the volume of production needed.

Codexes take precedence over sourcebooks. The idea existed to simply wait on sourcebooks, but realistically there's no gap large enough between top tier releases (army books) to squeeze them in.

Instead, the Digital model helps in two ways. First, it lets people who want it get it as soon as it's ready. Second, it let's GW coordinate the releases a lot more smoothly until a second printer is acquired (as is the case with the softcover books, they will be coming from a new printer). Third, it alleviates some of the production stress since people are less likely to buy a hard copy for something they have a digital copy of.

The idea of cross-platform, cross-media production of the same book is not a money grab. GW of course doesn't mind if you buy the interactive book, the ebook and the hardcover, but it's not the goal. The goal (much like the LEs) is to provide "something for everyone," no matter what your taste is.

So the Digital will come out when it's ready or when it's timed properly, and hopefully the print will line up, but Supplements aren't about to bump codexes behind since that would upset more people than it would please.

In the future, expect the releases to be a lot closer to one another and eventually sync up within a week.

**Thachng**

Sorry I'm typing from my phone so the grammar is very bad

**Ironwill13791**

I missed those last comments on page 11 so I didn't see it. Sorry.

But now I know what I am doing next in 40k. mecha army, sweet.

**SheSpits**

Didnt want to play the tau i have. Then the supplement came out and turned my world upside down.....Wife is going to be pissed.

**Ironwill13791**

This is sounding like it will be really fun to play.

**gossipmeng**

I'm going to really miss iridium armour on my commander though.....

**Darkness**

Talisman of a arathas moloch would be awesome with a SM Librarian near by

**hotsauceman1**

The bonding knife thing though worries me.
but Riptide warlord?

**Thachng**

Sorry it was my mistake you can take riptide bodyguard not warlord. It's not really clear but it sounds like you need farsight as the commander I'm sure someone who has more experience can explain when they have the book. Also each unit in the commander team is a character

**Darkness**

How does the unit work? You have to take one of each type of suit? A Riptide Character can be very potent needing 5's to pick out heavy weapons would be hot

**Thachng**

Hopefully this can help. It says farsight picks from commander team but farsight is in the commander team so does that mean I can just pick one of the commanders to be my warlord?

**gossipmeng**

Look like farsight isn't required - good we have some flexibility to make our own commanders.

Fluff wise makes sense as farsight wouldn't actually lead the battle every time a battle took place with his system spanning enclave

**Desubot**

Blargel makes me wish i had a ipad. i wana see the book bad.

Any chance you can show us the sig system list without points?

**Ahtman**

Making it so I couldn't take Crisis Suits as Troops (I've always wanted an all battlesuit army) in any way in the main codex kept me from picking up 40k again after many years, but now it seems they found me. Pray for my soul.

**warboss**

Thachng wrote:
Hopefully this can help. It says farsight picks from commander team but farsight is in the commander team so does that mean I can just pick one of the commanders to be my warlord?

Interesting... thanks for the update. Can you give us a general rundown of what the individuals in that commander team do/what sets them apart? I'm guessing they're likely all characters with differing specific loadouts and maybe a special rule each.

**wighti**

I've an inkling they'll be just bog standard shash'vres with pre-selected loadout.

The exclusion of the MSS/C&C Node/Puretide chip is probably the one thing that's gonna be the deciding factor for a lot of competitive minded people.

**cincydooley**

Errrrmahgawd. That's a lot of alternative characters.

Looks like ill be spending some $$$

**Angelic**

wighti wrote:
I've an inkling they'll be just bog standard shash'vres with pre-selected loadout.

The exclusion of the MSS/C&C Node/Puretide chip is probably the one thing that's gonna be the deciding factor for a lot of competitive minded people.

Certainly would be a big consideration for me. I run a 180 point commander just for the Puretide. I use a Crisis/Marker Drone unit because I can run a Shas'vre with MSS/CNC to compensate for the lower damage output. Changing those items affects my Markerlight output, which in-turn forces drastic changes in list design. Looks like this book is bigger benefits for bigger tax, whereas Iyanden was little for little.

**Thachng**

Hopefully this doesn't break rules

Sorry, that's too much. --Janthkin

**wighti**

Well, they get them anyway.

**Medium of Death**

Kind of hoping we see a new Crisis suit kit sooner rather than later. C'mon GW, get the finger out!

This supplement sounds very cool. Fusions blades sound interesting. I wonder if there is an example of how they look in the book.

**hotsauceman1**

Well the commanders seem to have to old SIG systems, but they dont seem to change much else