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1 Hq: Daemon Prince (110p) + Wings (20p) + Mark of Tzeetch (20p) + WarpTime (25p) + Doombolts (10p) total = 185p

4 troops:
- Thousand Sons: 1 Aspiring sorcerer (60p) + Bolt of Tzeetch (25p) + 9 Thousand sons (207p) total = 292p
- Thousand Sons: 1 Aspiring sorcerer (60p) + Bolt of Tzeetch (25p) + 9 Thousand sons (207p) total = 292p
- Thousand Sons: 1 Aspiring sorcerer (60p) + Bolt of Tzeetch (25p) + 9 Thousand sons (207p) total = 292p
- Thousand Sons: 1 Aspiring sorcerer (60p) + Bolt of Tzeetch (25p) + 9 Thousand sons (207p) total = 292p

All four of the squads have a Chaos Rhino Dedicated Transport:
- Chaos rhino (35p) + Havoc Launcher (15p) + Daemon Possession (20p) total = 70p
- Chaos rhino (35p) + Havoc Launcher (15p) + Daemon Possession (20p) total = 70p
- Chaos rhino (35p) + Havoc Launcher (15p) + Daemon Possession (20p) total = 70p
- Chaos rhino (35p) + Havoc Launcher (15p) + Daemon Possession (20p) total = 70p

1 Elite:
- Chaos Dreadnaught (tzeentch model from Forge World) (90p) + Twin-linked Autocannon (20p) + twin-linked bolter change to Heavy flamer for 5p total = 115p

List total = 1748p

This list I made for Tournaments and now I need some opinions about it;
- is it a steady list? for most kind of games?
- Should I change something?
- Is there a downside i must hold in accountance when I play this list?
- any other comment you like to add

nu rutger persoonlijk e zou erges ne chaos land raider er in zwiere en den dread er misschien uitlaten..die doe ni zoveel goe as ne gewone dread.. en wa meer heavy weps denkek..

you seem to be lacking in the ranged anti-tank area.

imo, you should drop 1 thousand son from each squad, then swap 2 bolt of change to wind of chaos, or just drop 1 squad altogether to free up points for more ranged units.

on the rhinos, take either the havoc launcher, or possession, maybe extra armor instead depending on what the squads inside are doing, but not really any reason to take both. they are just metal boxes to get your troops across the table.

drop the dreadnought. you can take a havoc squad with 4 missile launchers (155 points) for only a 40 point difference, and they won't kill your own troops.

depending on how you use your demon prince, you should change his powers. when i use mine for tank hunting, i take bolt of change and wind of chaos since they can use two psychic shooting powers. for infantry hunting, your powers are fine though but you should try wind of chaos to see how you like it. he also becomes a big target that is hard to hide, so you might want to take 2 demon princes.

my thousand sons don't really do well when they get assaulted, unless it's against a lot of power weapons. try to keep them out of assaults. overall though you have some very strong troops and HQ that plays hell on power armor.

thx already for advising

so more heavy weapons, and i geuss more specifficaly anti-tank weaponry as the thousand sons themselves shoot the hell out of infantry.

I find Wind of chaos truly nice but it requests you get close, which you don't want with Thousand Sons, yet the daemon price benefits way more from hitting nealry everything and wounding everything... or not?

Doombolt in my experience is the best power you can give Aspiring Sorcerors, they will join in a Rapid Fire shoot out with the Rubrics and mince with their AP3 shots.

Winds of Chaos will be better suited for your Prince, rather than the Doombolt. That way you have some assistance against large units before he charges.

Drop the Dread, and try and get some Obliterators, a Predator, or some Havocs as Lolcanoe suggested in there for some anti-tank, which you will need. If Oblits get some Icons in the squads.

I'd drop one TS unit and replace one with a CSM unit w/ MoT.
This would allow you to add two Defilers and one Dread.

alright going to adapt the list

as I thought as wel kinda need more Heavy units

thx for the comments

right, after some grand revisioning i came up with this list :

1Hq Deamon prince 110p + wings 20p + Mark of Tzeetch 20p + Warp Time 25p + Wind of chaos 30P

3Troops:

Aspiring Sorcerer 60p+ Doombolts 10p + 8TS 184
Aspiring Sorcerer 60p+ Doombolts 10p + 8TS 184
Aspiring Sorcerer 60p+ Wind of chaos 30p + 9TS 207

all are supoorteb by rhinos with Havoc Launchers :150p (all)

3Heavy Support:

two squads of 3obliterators (225p + 225p) (they support the doombolt TS squads)

1 vindicator with Havoc Launcher 140p (he supports the Wind of chaos TS squad)

total = nicely 1750p

tactic; Two squads of 1 Aspiring Sorcerer and 8TS will be accompanied by Obliterators in annhilation and a Rhino if they need a quick escape. They will all slowly advance and the vindicator and squad will focus itself in the middle (the thousand sons will ctually protect the vindicator with a cover save thx to their high helmets XD) while actually my deamon prince will be advancing quickly to slaughter troop units, I will always try to position him safely at first (in terrain or so) and then let him jump out and slaughter some troops he will probably quickly take up his points in kills I hope

so what you guys think?

obliterators are a lot of points.. i don't know if they are such a good choice.. but i don't know a lot about the chaos codex or chaos tactics so.. i leave it to the profesionals.. xd

they have the most wide weapon range ever, from lasscannons to multimelta's
and twin linked plasma guns! XD

they are the ultimate haevy weapon

In my experience, one Vindicator is too weak of a setup, it's too much of a target all on it's lonesome, Vindacators work in numbers, I'd say drop it and replace it with another two Obliterators, or a Predator with Lascannon sponsons and Extra Armour.

The Vindacator will work against less-shooty hordes, like Nids and Orks, but will be swiftly wiped out by most other armies, or have it's Demolisher Cannon disabled, wasting the points. A Predator however can pack a punch and can have three or four pack-a-punch weapons for anti-tank and MC.

You could try 9 possesed in a land raider, with sorcer lord w/ warptime, and winds of chaos. It will give you some anti tank, and some counter assault. I agree with the vindicators needing two or more to be effective otherwise they just get pop in the first turn.

well it is actually protected by an thousand sons squads :p wich will slowly advance with it if neccesary and even giving it a cover save...

but yea maybe something else could be fit in :p maybe a defiler but then i need to drop points somewhere

hmmm unlikely that your vindi will get a cover save.. I don't think it's a relybale strategy.. good thinking though

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