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I'm playing in a team tourney in January (1250 per player) with a space marine partner and here is what I have come up with for our teams. I am looking for some tweaking suggestions. As you can see, these are shooty lists with no real assault element. This fact makes me kind of nervous but I am not sure how to deal with it. Please let me know if you have any suggested improvements.

Space Marines 1250
HQ
Librarian (100pts)

Elites
Dreadnought (125pts): 2x Twin-Linked Autocannon
Dreadnought (125pts): 2x Twin-Linked Autocannon

Troops
10 man Tactical Squad (220pts): Meltagun, combi-melta,
Missile Launcher, Rhino
10 man Tactical Squad (220pts): Meltagun, combi-melta,
Missile Launcher, Rhino
10 man Tactical Squad (220pts): Meltagun, combi-melta,
Missile Launcher, Rhino

Fast Attack
Land Speeder (70pts): Heavy Flamer, Multi-Melta

Heavy Support
Predator (85pts): Autocannon, Heavy Bolters
Predator (85pts): Autocannon, Heavy Bolters

Blood Angels 1250
HQ
Librarian with jump pack (125)
Honor Guard with jump packs and 4 melta guns (205)

Troops
5 man Assault Squad, meltagun, Las/Plas Razorback (165)
5 man Assault Squad, meltagun, Las/Plas Razorback (165)
5 man Assault Squad, meltagun, Las/Plas Razorback (165)

Fast Attack
Baal Predator: assault cannon, heavy bolter sponsons (145)
Baal Predator: assault cannon, heavy bolter sponsons (145)

Heavy Support
Predator: autocannon, Las cannon sponsons (135)

This is my own view but i would not have the librarian and honor guard DS in. They will be all alone and probably get shot up in one turn. put them in another las plas razor. also drop the heavy bolter sponsons on the baals. this leaves you with 60 more points which could be used for a sang priest or whatever you see fit. That is what i would hope it helps

My thought on the jumpers was that they could hide behind the armor or deepstrike to threaten the backfield depending on the opponent. Without them we have no backfield threats.

I think that with them you have too little back field threats you might as well leave the back field alone. even if you destroy a LR you still wont have made their points back before they die. However they will distract alot of firepower from your army i dont think it will be enough.

Fair enough. I could also tool them out as a counter assault unit to protect my backfield

Easy peasy this one. I played a large 4k game recently with two Angel armies, one army was Razorback Spam the other jump packs - the jump packs hide behind the transports and move up behind them and then jump out for counter assault.

Your Space Marine list is solid. Dreadnoughts are cool and all that so are Speeders but I'd drop them get two min Sternguard units and give them Rhinos, more Rhino saturation you see and then switch the Angel army to jump packs and they hide behind - Angels jump out and deck stuff while Marines blast away


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Oh, having the Librarian and Honour Guard as a single jump pack unit isn't a good idea anyway

Here is my latest thinking for our doubles team:


Space Marines 1250

HQ
Librarian (100pts)

Elites
Dreadnought (125pts): 2x Twin-Linked Autocannon
TH/SS Terminators (200pts)

Troops
10 man Tactical Squad (220pts): Meltagun, combi-melta, Missile Launcher, Rhino
10 man Tactical Squad (220pts): Meltagun, combi-melta, Missile Launcher, Rhino
5 man Scout Squad (135pts): Telion, Heavy Bolter or Missile Launcher

Fast Attack
Land Speeder (70pts): Heavy Flamer, Multi-Melta
Land Speeder (90pts): Typhoon Missile Launcher

Heavy Support
Predator (85pts): Autocannon, Heavy Bolters

Space Wolves 1250

HQ
Rune Priest (100): living lightning, storm caller
Battle Leader (123): 2 wolves, storm bolter, wolf claw, saga of the hunter

Elites
Wolf Guard (147): 4x storm bolter in power armor, 1 terminator w/ cyclone missile launcher

Troops
5 Grey Hunters, flamer, Las/Plas Razorback (150)
5 Grey Hunters, flamer, Las/Plas Razorback (150)
5 Grey Hunters, flamer, Las/Plas Razorback (150)

Heavy Support
6 Long Fangs, 5 missile launchers, Las/Plas Razorback (215)
6 Long Fangs, 5 missile launchers, Las/Plas Razorback (215)

I feel like the wolves give more bang for the buck than the angels and I also want to abuse the new stealth ruling. The Battle Leader and the rune priest join the wolf guard and get a 3+ cover save thanks to saga of the hunter.

you could always squeeze a stormraven in to help carry death company into combat w/ a death company dreadnaught and chaplain or astorath great combo