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The 2004 FAQ on the Codex Necrons says on p1 that you "don't count any bonus penetration of any sort against a monolith". The 2005 FAQ has almost nothing about Living Metal except that Pf/Pc, Th still double their users strength when attacking a monolith.

Are these FAQ cumulative or does the 2005 supercede 2004?

Also, if you're fearless do you auto pass the Ld test to face down the Flayed Ones?

Also, if you're in a mission that allows reserves - Dawn of War - and have opted to hold Warriors in reserve with their special rule, they can still only enter thru a monolith regardless of the scenario rules permitting reserves?

The most recent FAQ supplants the old one. Here are the current FAQs. Necrons last updated in 2009.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat440130a&categoryId=600005§ion=&pIndex=1&aId=3400019&start=2

Fearless doesn't mean you auto-pass LD tests, but I think Flayed Ones were errata'd so that Fearless units do auto-pass their test.

All missions in 5th allow Reserves. If you're using a Monolith, when you put a unit of Warriors in Reserve at the time of deployment, you need to specify whether it's in normal Reserve or using the Monolith's special Reserve.

Aman wrote:Are these FAQ cumulative or does the 2005 supercede 2004?

Yes. No. Maybe.

Sometimes, issues are removed from the FAQ because an edition change alters the base rules. Sometimes the changes are integrated into a 'stealth' reprint of the codex. I have a feeling that may have been the case with living metal, but don't remember for sure.

Also, if you're fearless do you auto pass the Ld test to face down the Flayed Ones?

Fearless lets you auto-pass Morale and Pinning tests only. Other Leadership tests are taken as normal.

Also, if you're in a mission that allows reserves - Dawn of War - and have opted to hold Warriors in reserve with their special rule, they can still only enter thru a monolith regardless of the scenario rules permitting reserves?

As per the current FAQ, you declare at the start of the game whether your Reserve units are entering normally or through the Monolith.

Some players feel that it is still only Warriors in excess of your two compulsory units who can use the Monolith, others feel that the FAQ wording allows you to use it for any of your warriors now. That would be one to discuss with your opponent.

Aman wrote:The 2004 FAQ on the Codex Necrons says on p1 that you "don't count any bonus penetration of any sort against a monolith". The 2005 FAQ has almost nothing about Living Metal except that Pf/Pc, Th still double their users strength when attacking a monolith.

Are these FAQ cumulative or does the 2005 supercede 2004?

Also, if you're fearless do you auto pass the Ld test to face down the Flayed Ones?

Also, if you're in a mission that allows reserves - Dawn of War - and have opted to hold Warriors in reserve with their special rule, they can still only enter thru a monolith regardless of the scenario rules permitting reserves?

1. Tank hunter doesn't work (I know you didn't ask but it's in your title so I imagine you meant to ask about that).

2. Couldn't say for sure but it's best to just go with the most recent one.

3. The second printing of the necron codex states that fearless units ignore the flayed ones ability.

4. Like Insaniak said, best to discuss it but with the FAQ and changes to reserves in 5th edition there shouldn't be any resistance to bring any warriors on through the lith if designated as such.

Not sure about Tank Hunters, I dont have rules anywhere to provide an opponent as to why they cant add +1 to a dice roll when rolling to see if they pen a vehicle. Unfortunately it doesnt say tank hunters adds +1 S , it says adds +1 to the roll. Seems to be how people are getting to use TH on Mono's. It sucks as a Cron player, but if I had a rule to stop it I would.

The most recent Necron codex says that all you ever get when attempting to penetrate the Monolith's Living Metal is the unaugmented strength (US) of the weapon plus 1d6. Nothing else. IMO, that covers Tank Hunter as it is something more than US + 1d6.
If your codex does not include this line, you have the initial print run, not the most recent one which does also cover Flayed ones. And no, they do not affect Fearless units.

Reason that only warriors in excess of the minimum required by the FOC can come through the monolith portal is that the only rules that lets any models come through the portals state that you may not do it to these units. If GW erratas those rules to remove this line then fine ... till then at least two units of warrior may not arrive from reserve through the monolith portal (though they may be placed in reserve as normal).

Norbu the Destroyer wrote:Not sure about Tank Hunters, I dont have rules anywhere to provide an opponent as to why they cant add +1 to a dice roll when rolling to see if they pen a vehicle. Unfortunately it doesnt say tank hunters adds +1 S , it says adds +1 to the roll. Seems to be how people are getting to use TH on Mono's. It sucks as a Cron player, but if I had a rule to stop it I would.

If it was a +1 on the damage chart (like AP1) then it's viable. But since it is a +1 to the D6 roll for penetration it is not allowed and is clearly stated in the rules for living metal that you only ever get to roll (unaugmented) STR+1D6. The argument with Power Fists and Thunder Hammers is that the living metal rules says unaugmented WEAPON strength. PF/TH don't have a STR value, they simply set the models STR to a static x2 their STR stat. Since it is still technically the models strength being calculated, there is no "weapon" coming into play. Some will argue the semantics of the wording "close combat weapon" but that really means nothing as a sword or knife has no strength if not wielded.

Tri wrote:Reason that only warriors in excess of the minimum required by the FOC can come through the monolith portal is that the only rules that lets any models come through the portals state that you may not do it to these units. If GW erratas those rules to remove this line then fine ... till then at least two units of warrior may not arrive from reserve through the monolith portal (though they may be placed in reserve as normal).

The latest Necron FAQ says;

Q. Can units of Necron Warriors enter from
reserve as normal or must they enter via a
Monolith?
A. If the players hold any units of Necron
Warriors in reserve, he must specify if they are
going to enter the game through the Monolith or
simply walk in from their own table edge, as
normal. If units of Warriors are using this rule
and all available Monoliths are destroyed, the
Warriors count as destroyed and may therefore
trigger the Phase Out of the on-table portion of
the army.

This changes the Reserves rule for warriors on page 18 of the Necron Codex. You may now hold any number of units in reserve up to your total force due to the reserves rules in the BRB. So you could field a Necron force without any Monoliths, hold all the warriors in reserve, and move them on from the table edge like any other units. The FAQ removes the requirement for Warriors to come on from reserve only through a Monollith.

If you look closely it doesn't say that ALL units in reserves can come in from the monolith, simply that if you do hold any warriors in reserve you can choose where they come on from. It does not lift the restriction in place in the codex. I was confused on this too, you just have to read both rules very carefully and take note of the very specific wording they used.

It sucks, but it is very debatable.

Also, they're not debating if they HAVE to come in from the monolith, only if the FOC requirement is still in effect.

Kevin949 wrote:If you look closely it doesn't say that ALL units in reserves can come in from the monolith, simply that if you do hold any warriors in reserve you can choose where they come on from. It does not lift the restriction in place in the codex. I was confused on this too, you just have to read both rules very carefully and take note of the very specific wording they used.

It sucks, but it is very debatable.

Also, they're not debating if they HAVE to come in from the monolith, only if the FOC requirement is still in effect.

thank you that's the point ...

You may reserve 0-6 units of warriors ... you may have up to 4 units of warriors entering via the portal but you must have two units of warriors that are not entering via the portal (though they may reserve to walk on). The FAQ simply explains that you use the BGB reserve rules and/or the necron rules but you must say which during deployment.

Thanks guys, big help!
I refuse to buy a more recent book when it's supposed to be replaced later this year, but maybe I can borrow one.

Ebay for a cheap second hand one?

And if you have some extra cash lying around, no is possibly a good time to pick up necrons from ebay. When (if) the new codex gets announced, you can bet that the bidding will rise to insane levels on Ebay. If you invest now, you can get lots for cheap.

I picked up well over 2500 points and a codex for a cost under £100. Bargain (and this also included 10 immortals!!!!!)