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Wow, looks like our great buddies at Perry have the next few months busy for them with a load of plastic sets getting ready. Really excited for the plastic knights. Also I think Perry is going to do the first plastic 28mm AWI set ever. Although there arent any dates so it could be months before we see any details of release (their plastic mercenaries took a long while iirc)
From TMP
For those people who couldn't attend Salute, we have a brief line-up of our new 3ups that were on show. This is just an overview - we'll be going into more detail with more photos on each set in the coming week. We hope you like them. Please note that some parts of these figures are held on by blue-tac, which might show occasionally.
Austrian Napoleonic (German) Infantry 1808-15
All the figures in the box will have both helmets and shakos, so they cover the mid-to-late-war period. You'll be able to equip all the figures in the box with either. They're wearing the 1808 pattern jacket, which is used up to the end of the war and beyond. There will be 48 figures in the box. There will be other box sets in this series.
There will be enough early shakos and later kiwers to equip all the figures in the box with either. The earlier corded 1807 pattern shakos were worn alongside the 1812 kiwer during the 1812 Russian campaign, as reforms took a while to complete. There will be two boxes of these - one infantry (with elites), one grenadier - as there are so many variants of headgear.
Prussian Napoleonic Reserve Infantry 1813-15
These are represented in their 1813 basic grey uniforms and minimal kit, although some reserve regiments still wore this uniform in 1815. Both peaked caps and shakos will be included for all figures. The command wore the regular Prussian uniforms.
Mounted Men-at-Arms 1450-1500
There will be twelve horsemen (four different bodies/armor types, with bridle arm attached). There will also be a variety of weapons, including couched lance, mace, axe, etc. The horses are in three pieces with interchangeable body halves plus separate horse armor.
American War of Independence British Infantry 1776-81
This will be the first in a series of AWI plastics. American militia and Continentals are also in the pipeline. Only four of the five figures for the infantry sprue are shown here. Formal cocked, half-cocked hats and cut-down 'Saratoga' caps will be included for all in the box.
ACW Confederate Infantry 1862-65
These mid/late-war Confederates will be represented at the charge or at 'right shoulder shift', as with the Zouave set. Only three of the five figures from the infantry sprue are shown here.
There are no release dates on any of these at the moment.
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They need to do Billmen and dismounted men at arms to finish the Wars of the Roses range. The same models can be used for continental armies with minor changes of pole arm.
They only need the dismounted Men-at-Ars their first set War of the Roses set contains Billmen and Longbowmen. I foresee an Empire army in the not to distant future for me....
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Yea but not everyone needs a bunch of longbowmen. A Generic Men At Arms on foot with bills, 2 hand swords, halberds, etc would make a good base for getting in all those pole arms without shelling out to get x2-3 bows and bills sets to have a decent sized regiment
The point is that the men-at-arms, hobilar sergeant (if they did them) and pole weapon guys can probably be used for a number of western European armies between 1450 and 1500. French, Burgundian, Low Countries, Swiss, Northern Italian...
Spanish probably looked more different especially the Moorish troops.
You need longbowmen for an English army however most continental armies of the time had a lot fewer longbows as it was a specifically English weapon and other nations hadn't caught up.
I have a box of their French Napoleonics, great models that I sadly have no use for other than looting backpacks and a few other bitz.
I can see myself using the Austrian heads for Cusdoeus, finally replacing the Dire Avenger heads I've been using. The Prussian reservists could do for anyone looking to do plastic Mordians. If the arms are seperate they could even be Conscript guard for some forces.
I like the Perry WotR plastics and the Earopean Mercenaries are very useful with the new separate heads even more so. I like the look of those knights can't wait to see them in the flesh.
The esteemed Perrys already made metal Japanese and Korean armies, so they certainly could do plastic, but I belive that they are not big sellers in the same way as Napoleonics.
Personnaly, I want them to do either First Crusade, both sides, and the Hundred Years War (early/mid).
Kilkrazy wrote:They need to do Billmen and dismounted men at arms to finish the Wars of the Roses range. The same models can be used for Empire and Bretonnia. With Mantic covering HE, Dwarfs, OG, & VC soon GW will be irrelevant to me besides the background and rules.
Hmmm according to internet talk, these are very early greens.
Most/all of these sets will be done by christmas season apparently. Similar to the length of time it took for the Mercs to get released when it got its greens shown.
This reminds me, when are their british napoleonic cavalry going to get released?
lasgunpacker wrote:The esteemed Perrys already made metal Japanese and Korean armies, so they certainly could do plastic, but I belive that they are not big sellers in the same way as Napoleonics.
Personnaly, I want them to do either First Crusade, both sides, and the Hundred Years War (early/mid).
Hopefully not both, I can not afford both!
Check out Gripping beast they have some Amazing Crusaders. These are a little suprising honestly as the perry's said in the past they would never do plastic AWI. I like the initials but am curious about what they are going to do because that is a fairly extensive line, and doing the whole one in plastic would be expensive. Also Victrix is releasing Austrians and Warlord Russians and usually those three companies work together so this is a rather interesting turn of events. Either way great work and the heads are good for conversion but not the rest of them.
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Empchild wrote: Also Victrix is releasing Austrians and Warlord Russians and usually those three companies work together so this is a rather interesting turn of events. Either way great work and the heads are good for conversion but not the rest of them.
Ah yea I saw the russians recently on TMP. Idk about warlord's napoleonic line though, the first one they did was pretty staticy without posable arms and lighter on details
Sorry for the bump but looks like theres a bit more info on the Austrians
I've always had a soft spot for the Napoleonic Austrian army, and in a way, these will be the last main army to complete the 1815 range. The Austrians were fighting against the French and Neapolitans in Italy up until August 1815, no less than 27 encounters and battles, not including sieges! The accompanying metal and additional plastic sets in the range will cover the 1808-15 period.
As mentioned before, these are in the 1808 jacket which was quite distinctive with its swept-back turn-backs, but if you're not concerned about that, they could be used from 1805 when the queue was abolished. The officer is in the Oberrock, a typical campaign look, usually worn without the sash as I've done. There will be a choice of bicorne, helmet and shako. Officially, fusiliers were meant to be clean-shaven, but contemporary pictures and Ottenfeld do show them appearing in the ranks, so I've made a few heads with mustaches. There'll be 48 figures in the box, including one officer, one drummer, one standard bearer, one pioneer, and two NCOs. There will be enough helmets and shakos for all the figures in the box.
Going back to 1815 Italy, many of the French 1815 range (including the plastic infantry) can be painted as white-uniformed Neapolitans, an army I've just started to put together myself in anticipation of the plastic Austrians. They should at least be aesthetically pleasing battles!
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More info on Knights! Oh bugger, there is a CHANCE, very slim though, of dismounted men at arms being included. Dont know if plastic though, I assume so but its a tease
Here are a few more shots of the plastic mounted men-at-arms. These are intended for use in most European armies as well as those of the Wars of the Roses.
There will be twelve horsemen with four different bodies/armour types (Italian, German, English/Flemish and Italian with coat), with bridle arms attached. There will be a variety of weapons, including couched and upright lance, sword, mace, axe, hammer, etc., the fingers attached to each weapon and supplied separate from the arms. There should be three arm positions for each of the four armor types. Also, of course, lots of new heads that are interchangeable with the previous plastic medieval figures. The horses are in three pieces with interchangeable body halves and heads, plus separate horse armor.
There is no release date as yet, as Renedra will have their hands full with ours and other peoples' projects over the next few months - apart from the fact I haven't actually finished them!
If they will fit in the box, there will also be dismounted men-at-arms... but don't hold me to that!!
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2011/04/21 03:52:17
Subject: Perry Minis Plastic Previews, Napoleonics, Medieval Knights (new pics), AWI British, ACW Confeds!
I dunno, I didnt live at that time! The helmets do look very showy I suppose (the top anyways, they look easy to chop off though). Cant comment on the armor itself, dont know much about it and we're only looking at a few angles of greens
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2011/04/21 04:43:19
Subject: Perry Minis Plastic Previews, Napoleonics, Medieval Knights (new pics), AWI British, ACW Confeds!
Those knights are great! I look forward to those coming out; I really want to use the Perry line to do Bretonians, but with as much plastic as possible.
Wehrkind wrote:Those knights are great! I look forward to those coming out; I really want to use the Perry line to do Bretonians, but with as much plastic as possible.
The ascetics wouldnt really fit bretonnians though with all that Plate Armor. unless your brets are going to be a bit non traditional. What kind of knight wouldnt use the best protection anyways?
2011/04/21 06:04:08
Subject: Perry Minis Plastic Previews, Napoleonics, Medieval Knights (new pics), AWI British, ACW Confeds!
Kid_Kyoto wrote:History Q - On those Italian knight was that actual armor for combat or more of a for show, jousting kind of thing?
Armour was made in several European centres and exported internationally, so an Italian armour may well have been used by a French or English knight.
Armour was certainly intended for combat and was used. There were also special jousting suits, or add-on kits, which had extra plates and heavy helmets. Jousting was a dangerous sport.
It was the custom in England for the knights (men at arms) to dismount and fight on foot.
There is a difference in italian armor and gothic armor ( the former has more smooth an larger plates) but
during that time armor was often mixed and not restricted to a nation.
I really hope for some dismounted MAA ( men at arms) since the only plastic ones are now vailable in the mercenaries and longbow/bills box
( both have 4 armoured MAA on foot )
Among the remaining infantery ( 12 types on a frame) there are only 2 or 3 with enough armour to rank up a unit off MAA.
And that pennant on the helmet, burgundians really had that, it was used for unit/company identification in the field.
The only concern I have is when I see that amount of greens..... WHEN ???????
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2011/04/21 14:44:46
Subject: Perry Minis Plastic Previews, Napoleonics, Medieval Knights (new pics), AWI British, ACW Confeds!
Wehrkind wrote:Those knights are great! I look forward to those coming out; I really want to use the Perry line to do Bretonians, but with as much plastic as possible.
The ascetics wouldnt really fit bretonnians though with all that Plate Armor. unless your brets are going to be a bit non traditional. What kind of knight wouldnt use the best protection anyways?
Yea I kind of did; for whatever reason knights in chain mail don't really do it for me. I guess it just seems an awkward seam between the dark ages and well the war of the Roses.
I was thinking it would be nifty to have a full WotR style Bret army instead. I had thought about Empire, but it seemed like Brets were the only way to go to focus on cav.
I'm becomming more and more tempted to do some WOTR. I will say this about the rendara produced plastics; they are great but when you clean then wear a mask because of the amount of plastic put out from the files.
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Just as with the other sets, Perry has some more details on the AWI and ACW sets
These are the first in the AWI plastic series. There will be American militia and Continentals, too. I've just done four out of the five figures for the infantry sprue; the command sprue will probably contain six figures. The figures are depicted in cut-down coats and one-piece overalls, which serves them for the 1776-81 period.
All the figures will have a choice of three pieces of head gear: fully cocked, slouch/half-cocked hats, and the 'Saratoga' cut-down hat which should cover most theaters of campaign in America.
The hats, rather than the heads (which are attached to the bodies), are separate, as this is the best way to get the proper shape when tooling them in plastic. Three types of head gear are all I can get on the sprue, in case you were thinking why not make grenadier or light infantry heads. As these last two troop types had their hair clubbed as opposed to a simple queue for the center companies (which would need to be carved off), it's maybe something I could do as an additional sprue later on….
They're carrying the regulation kit, including the tumplines (rolled blankets), which would have been the typical look of British infantry in America. The choice of arms include the 'at trail' pose, which again was typical of troops moving through a mostly wooded terrain. They will also all get arms for a more aggressive charging unit. There's no release date for these yet.
Many thanks to Brendan Morrissey for his up-to-the-date info and encouragement when I was designing these.
I've also been working on the Confederate infantry for the mid/late Civil War period. Only three of the five done, but these are quite quick to make (for me, not the tooling side), so it won't take much to finish them off in green. As you can see, the arms are the same as on the Zouave sprue, which helps in tooling costs and time, as well as my time. It also makes for some quite dynamic poses, which has the feel of Confederate units. That's not to say you won't be seeing Union troops treated the same way….
There will be a choice of head gear, too. As with the AWI British, the heads are attached and the hats/caps separate for ease of tooling. The head gear will fit the other figures in the ACW plastic line.
Again, no release dates on these, either.
Oh, I thought I'd better mention the plastic Prussians, and the first nine metals are now available. Our web designer is on holiday over Easter so the details won't be up for a few days, so I'll just put them up here again for now.
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