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Thanks man! I found them. (litko.net) $15/100 is WAY cheaper than what I was finding when I first looked. If I remember correctly it was closer to $50/100.

Remember that for the thinner bases, the thicker ones are considerably pricier. I prefer the thin ones cause they disappear easier, though some want to more closely match traditional 3mm bases.

@theo I don't have any D&D minis. Someone was painting them recently but I can't remember who now.

Got my ninja elves. Misplaced them. Whatever. I'm sure they'll turn up eventually #warningsignsofalzheimers?

Put together some more survivors over the last couple of days while watching TV. Now I've got some poor woman with no shoes but two pistols, a little girl with a scoped hunting magnum (or similar large caliber revolver), hoody guy with ak-47, sporty lady with a bow (not the default body for the bow, but she pulls it off nicely), and today I put together the duster/trench coat/whatever guy as a priest with a bible in one hand and a pistol in the other. Yelling face which seemed appropriate. He may hang out with that revolver-armed nun at some point. Got the jeans done on a few survivors but I haven't had a chance to really dig into the current batch yet.

Probably gonna do some house work this weekend too, gotta patch the rolled-roof (or whatever you call the flat ones that look like they're rolled out, not shingles) over the back porch and fix a teeny spot on the main roof where a wee bit of water can leak into the attic...before either of those things starts the wood a-rotting and ruins my day a few years down the road =/ Shouldn't take long.

Progress will likely be further hindered when the wife goes back to work next weekend. I can more or less guarantee that I won't be getting feth all done when I have the baby and 3 year old at the same time for the whole night. I'll be lucky to sleep enough so as to not inadvertently pilot my zero turn into a lake or traffic or something.

But yeah I should get a few more things done before that. Maybe.

yep, rolled roofing.

post apocalypse clergy sound great. If they couldn't choose a side in life, the zombies surely couldn't choose a side in death.

 Theophony wrote:
I know you have some of the D&D figures from the box game, do you have temple of elemental evil? If so are the figs decent? MM had a box for 1/2 price because the edge was smashed, but I haven't seen the models out of the box to judge for myself.

Grim doesn't have any of the boxes, but I do! I've not got ToEE but I do have the previous one and the minis are mostly decent, there are a few duds and a few very nice ones, overall they look fine with a lick of paint.

But really, it's the game itself you want, the system is great fun and excellent for getting non-gamers involved (I ran a game with 6 players yesterday, only two had previous gaming experience and after a turn or two everyone had picked up the mechanics). The Tokens and tiles are all good quality, and I think ToEE adds a very basic experience system as well.

At half price, you'd be mad not to get a copy!

It was Red Harvest that's been painting them more recently, check out the last few pages of his blog.

Sorry for the OT chatter, Grim, looking forward to the next round of Zombies and Survivors!

Yeah, I knew one of you guys had been painting them lately, Red it was.

@Paradigm, cheers mate. I knew Grimdork had been discussing his D&D gaming and all the bones figures, plus Red is synonymous with terrain to me so I skipped over his thread ( multitalented people)

Bwahaha, yeah he doesn't paint a *lot*, but it's nice stuff when he does!

Thanks Grimdork.

Theo, the game is a lot of fun. ToEE has some very nice minis, and a few bad ones, and a few in-between. At half price, I would get it. The minis are of that soft plastic like Reaper Bones.

Somehow the idea of a Zombie shopper is a bit too realistic. I can say that I've seen a few in the stores. <shudder> That city bus looks perfect too. Kmart, you say? I'll have look the next time I'm near one. The local Toys-r-Us, which you would think would have such things, has diddly.

It's tricky finding the right scale. Walmart here has almost nothing, save for one $20 semi truck complete with functional trailer that can be unhitched. $20 isn't as good as the $10 sterch bus even if its a little bigger, its on the back burner list for someday maybe. So far the bus has been my only success at Kmart.

I think for civilian cars 1:43 may be ideal, if s bit expensive. May source some from amazon or something eventually.

Every once in a while you can just luck into some generic brand 6 pack of 1:43 cars at Toyrus/Walmart/Kmart. The holiday season is actually the best time of year for this, with them stocking generic gift sets for Christmas.

Huh, thanks for that Adam. Now that you've mentioned it I'll keep an eye out. I did notice Kmart had a pack of appropriately sized (fits within a credit card) cars but they were of poor designs and looked far too much like toys. But I'll keep an eye out for similar sets. Good call.

I got a whole bunch of them from Aldi late last year. Most of them were a bit too sporty, but still, I picked up a bunch. We've pretty much used them as the cop cars and pimpmobiles in Zombicide so far, but hey!

Yeah sometimes Aldis has some fairly useful stuff in their not-food section. Never lasts very long though, but sometimes they get ahold of something pretty good and really cheap.

Prop cars for that battle table that looks realistic!

Scale is the biggy, GW have so squewed our perspective its very difficult.

However, there are possibilities...



And always keep meaning to do something with these campers!


I looked into the wholesale side of buying a box of these type of things, they work out about £2 each, but 50 or 100 of the same vehicle is a bit much, unless I share!!

Yeah you've done some great stuff with such vehicles . I just need a couple of cars for scatter, myself.

Got in a game of pulp alley and x-wing last night.

Buck Spencer along with his best agents and some local backup took on Da Boss but failed to secure the secret documents and will be on the wrong foot for the next mission. Both agents had an ability to draw extra fortune cards instead of shooting/fighting secondary buffs of the other two agents and the healthy pool of tricks had my opponent on the ropes at first..but luck turned against me. I ended up with the two more defensively aggressive objectives though it was little impediment, it did eat up some cards though. I had a large card advantage early on, but I chewed them up really fast to turn it into a tabletop advantage. I had the momentum but a couple of bum rolls and clever cardwork from my opponent left me losing by two points. Not too bad, fun game overall. I like the new agents just fine though the follower level help could use some tweaking. I think I spent one or two extra good cards a turn or two too early, and accidentally kept one of his allies from getting up instead of saving the card for his much tougher sidekick on the next turn (in my defense they're gorillas in gangster suits with tommy guns, if not the same sculpt, they're very similar and I've just got to memorize that Mr Yellow is the damn sidekick lol..). Good times. May do some scenery for the next game, may not. I'm having an idea...

We had a bit of time after that so we played a game of x-wing that ended up being not as quick. He had a mix of ties and interceptors and since I couldn't find all of my scum dials I went with Dash and Coran. First time I brought that duo but I'm suitably impressed. Horn's ability to flop between extreme offense and potent defense is fancy and the maneuverability of the yt2400 coupled with the nasty heavy laser cannon is fun to fly. Basically flew around in circles and wore the ties down. Dash was down to two hull left when my opponent conceded with just the one banged up tie fighter left on the board. Dash never took a hit.


So Warpath has taken off a bit. On kickstarter now, I'm sure all of you are already aware so I'm not gonna advertise it here but for now I'm locked into one of the bigger pledge levels and will either be keeping it or dropping out to a buck to just cherry pick deadzone goodies. I want the vehicles, so as long as my finances check out before the campaign ends (should), I'll probably keep my pledge in. So I'm working on getting some of my deadzone/dbx/whatever stuff worked out in the meantime to prove to myself that I even need the more models Got 9 enforcers primed since we last spoke, looking at doing some Asterians now maybe.


I'm also thinking of doing a 4x4' run-down farm board. For some reason. It would work for a lot of systems and it would be eligible for the LoER comp this month (Got Wood? Build something out of wood or to look like wood) as a bonus. I figure I could do the board first, add some natural hills and other wavy/curvy stuff, and get that all textured initially. Then, I could move on to adding scenic elements. I want to do a wooden/wire fence row, probably pretty overgrown. Maybe down/repaired in a few places. Not necessarily across the whole board but fairly long. I'm considering doing a barn or farmhouse. Farmhouse would give nigh limitless modeling potential but could become a massive time sink and demoralize me. Barn would have less problems along those lines but I'm still no architect. At the very least, I want some wooden out buildings. And probably a water feature. Just a small pond or something, I've wanted to do one for a good while. May end up forgetting this idea too, hard to say

Well back to it, just some thoughts.

I am so very tempted by a big Warpath pledge but am terrible at delayed gratification and waiting nearly a year to get anything. I am also reticent pay for things when I am not sure what the final product will be. But, as you know, the space Dwarfs are calling me.

Yeah, they got their hooks into me too, and I'm not typically a fan of dwarfs. I mean, I appreciate them, but they're not usually my 'thing'. Kind of like salt on food, they make the overall thing better, but I wouldn't want them just on their own. But the Forge Fathers... tempting. And so many vehicles. So many.

So yeah been awhile... Ok more like five days lol. Seems like awhile. Skipped out on the warpath pledge, at a buck, will likely get a smattering of what looks like the best priced add-ons, possibly combined with a smaller pledge. Shipping was gonna be a lot on top of an already massive pledge level and I just need to beat myself out of the 'get all the things!' mentality. Will probably still get a bunch of cool stuff down the road but only when I can try everything out on the pledge manager to see how it affects shipping and all that. Informed choices and all that.

However that does leave me with a theoretical wad of cash in my wallet that's otherwise just sitting around... what's that internet? You know where I could spend my money? What do you mean I already know what you're talking about? Oh battle systems? You don't say.... and the shipping is actually a lot more reasonable than I was first thinking? I guess you're right. Hmmm....

So yeah, considering that again. It's expensive but it looks superb, they've even added a shanty town variant that would be great for lots of post apoc settlements, really poor areas, rebuilt cities, etc... both contemporary and in the near/far-future. So, considering it.

Beyond that, dunno just bee floating around. Wife went back to work on the weekend leaving me and the kids to suffer through eachother's company friday-sunday. The baby seems to like her momma better than me lol, poor thing is fussier than her sister ever was. And of course the older one doesn't like the attention that has to go to the new baby. Oi. So little has gotten done. I got some more minis assembled and primed through heroic and concentrated efforts during the especially rare double nap time and what not. I'll show them off later if I get some paint on them maybe.

The primed pile is growing, for sure, but I could really plow through it in pretty short order if I could just get some quality hobby time. Unlikely.

We'll see!

I still think that farm board would be fun but after this last weekend I'm gonna stick to smaller projects, even theoretical ones.

Double nap time? That borders on miraculous! Did you buy a lottery ticket that day?

I ended up sticking with the $115 pledge to get an Asterian battlegroup. That will pretty much max out my Mantic SF collection pretty much forever. The battlesystems stuff looks nice, but I haven't even opened my rewards from their first KS. That makes it pretty easy to resist.

Ahh true. I opened mine up and got stuck in, although I hit some snags. Should have ordered more wall clips to go with my add-ons. I can cut the necessary spare clips out of the card sheet frames that the other bits came on, but it'll be a bit tedious.

I think the new stuff is a couple of generations better than the first wave and it just looks stupid fun to play with.

We'll see, it's still pretty expensive. Though when you compare it to that stuff Theo was talking about... you could get 3.7 sets of operation cerberus or basically three and a half 6x9" buildings that are 9 inches tall but have a funky corner out of one side (would get old past the second building) and you can break them down a bit more than that to have a bit more but shorter buildings. Not bad, really.

BS-PA comes out to like 5 buildings that are 8x8" and are uhh lemme think. You get 5 floors and some partial floors for collapsed roofs. So that makes, I dunno, 3-4 single high buildings and one can be a bit taller, or two two stories with three singles, or what have you, and don't forget all the play area the collapsed roofs give you. Plus you get a 2x2' rubber/mouse pad style game mat that looks to be really well detailed. That's 20 bucks discounted retail right there.

I think the plastic stuff gives you more square footage but I'm not sure it's a crazy amount more, plus the BS-PA estimates are without the extras and there look to be a lot of those (and a gak load of scatter terrain!).

Anyway not trying to compare apples and oranges I'm just really thinking if it you can cover a table much cheaper (without spending hours and hours hand crafting stuff, I know I could fill a 4x8' table for little more than the cost of glue and paint, but who's got the time?) than the BS stuff and what not. I mean there's model train stuff but that tends to get expensive quick and who knows if it'll all scale together between manufacturers etc. Well it should but still.

Besides the *possible* penning and some super glue reinforcement for the parts I use the most, this stuff should be pretty ready to go from the box and infinitely modular. Battlezones are a lot harder to take a part, model train stuff doesn't do it at all. The Dust stuff can come apart but it only makes one shape to my knowledge.

Anyway I'm blathering on. Still deciding but I'm a lot more favorable than I was last time, especially considering I probably won't spend as much on Warpath. I've got no prospects for opponents for a 28mm mass battles or even 30-50 man sized game, so best to just get the coolest bits.

Bah. Too tired to paint, I think. Color scheme isn't jumping out at me but I'm thinking something green.

It is a chore for me to get any hobby time with no children so how you do it with 2 young children I will never know!

I dropped out on Warpath too, just too long a wait and I was unsure of what would come out any good.

Have you got any quick and easy minis in the primed pile so that you can get rolling again?

Yeah I just knocked out a color scheme. Blocked it out I mean. Gonna probably have to completely finish and dip this one model before I'm sure I like it enough to do the rest of his team. I think I will. I mean, if it gets to the point that I dip him there's almost zero chance that I'll strip the model and I'll want them to match... But I need to get all of the basecoats as smooth as I get them (just one coat of everything atm so it's pretty spotty) and maybe choose a different color for the gun, think I may go back to black with grey/white highlights like I use for mars attacks and so on instead of the grey I tend to use in Infinity.

And no I'm not saying what they are. I'm embarrassed by the impulse purchase so I'm trying to knock them out so as to justify it

Not much progress. I'll have more moments when the bs-pa KS ends tomorrow. More moments but less monies.... They added a set for residential homes. Crazy awesome. I need at least some of everything. Glad I held back on warpath and looked at BS again.

So all I've got done lately is to mess around with a super simple set of game mechanics for when I'm lining models up for story time but I want some rolls involved to help inspire random chance to make interesting story telling opportunity.

More on that as I figure it out.

Having seen some of the issues that people are having with KOW2 and the 2 month and counting Dungeon Saga delay I am glad that I held off on Warpath too.

How much did you spend on Battle systems this time round?

Nothing yet. The main pledge is 78 pounds with 10 pounds to ship so nearly $135 per. I would like a couple, then the shanty town that's the same size and cost. They just added suburban houses and I'd love a mat full of those at roughly the same price as the other three things...and at least another hundred bucks in addons..... I haven't spent a dime yet as we're 11 hours to close but I wouldn't mind throwing 5-600 at this. Not sure I will, gonna go over finances here in a bit and reason with myself lol.

That seems like a pretty fair shipping cost given the weight that I assume the Battle Systems stuff comes in at.

5-600 pounds or dollars? Either way hold that trigger finger partner!

Dollars. And I dunno it'll be hard. Will add incrementally, some up front and more during PM. Maybe more after that in a last chance PM if they do it again. We'll see. It's expensive but would be so much fun to paint.

Got a mini painted, no time for photos though.