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Link
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2011/08/darla_napora_pregnant_pit_bull.php

Darla Napora was a member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls, a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous. When her husband Greg left their Pacifica, California home the other day, his pregnant wife was sleeping...


Despite mauling his pregnant wife to death, Greg Napora still plans to have the pit bull's ashes buried with Darla
​In bed with her were the couple's two pit bulls, Gunner and Tazi. But when he returned home, he was given cause to believe that their whole pit-bulls-aren't-that-dangerous thing might be something of a misnomer.

He found his wife covered in blood with Gunner bloody and hovering over her. Greg called an ambulance and got Gunner into the back yard. But it was too late to save Darla. She died at the scene.

While medics worked to save her, Gunner escaped from the back yard. Police decided to shoot him multiple times after the dog approached them.

But Greg is still holding onto his pit bulls aren't dangerous thing. He's forgiven the dog, even though it killed his wife and his baby-to-be. He plans to bury Darla with Gunner's ashes.

While I believe that some Dogs are misrepresented for their Aggression a lot (Dobermans, German Shepard) I think the Pit bulls reputation is pretty justified, and I know I will never let my future kids around one, nor own one my self.

This is why everyone should own a Dachshund.

Oh, the irony!
@Sasori. i truely do believe it's the owners, not the animal. i've been around alot of dogs doing my job and you can really tell
the difference in a good owner/bad owner's dogs.

In my experience there are no good or bad dogs, only good or bad owners...if you know what I mean...

I owned two Pits and never had any problems with either of them.
Not to say both wouldn't become very aggressive if " turned loose " , but in general, very docile and well behaved dogs.

WARORK93 wrote:In my experience there are no good or bad dogs, only good or bad owners...if you know what I mean...

Holy crap! I didn't know Cesar Milan played 40k and had a Dakka account!?!?

warboss wrote:

WARORK93 wrote:In my experience there are no good or bad dogs, only good or bad owners...if you know what I mean...

Holy crap! I didn't know Cesar Milan played 40k and had a Dakka account!?!?

I do like to watch that show sometimes...and I'm glad you brought that up as his work is proof that if you retrain the dog owner then the dog will follow suit.

Oh the delicious irony!

Yes, the irony!

WARORK93 wrote:

warboss wrote:

WARORK93 wrote:In my experience there are no good or bad dogs, only good or bad owners...if you know what I mean...

Holy crap! I didn't know Cesar Milan played 40k and had a Dakka account!?!?

I do like to watch that show sometimes...and I'm glad you brought that up as his work is proof that if you retrain the dog owner then the dog will follow suit.

Hmm I go to a few animal boards, I heard theres some "controversy" over his teaching methods

Of course I own a really lazy dog so I have zero problems with aggressiveness

I know there is a joke in here somewhere, but i'm damned if i'm going to be typing it out.

I'm not sure how this could be a problem with the owners, they were part of a specific dog club trying to represent these dogs in a good light.

These animals are too unpredictable.

While I generally agree on the front that a dogs temperament comes mostly from how an owner trains and treats their dogs, the issue of Pit bulls going out of control seems to be a lot more common, and I think indicative of an issue with the breed as well.

I've personally known two different pitbulls, from separate owners that have owned nothing but pitbulls that had to be put down because of aggression. They were great owners, and the dogs were well trained, but as I said earlier, I just feel it's partly an issue with the breed.

Agree a lot of the time it is the owners fault, but:
Pit Bull Terriers were bred for fighting.
Of itself that is probably not a determining factor. However, if the animals are intensively bred/interbred, it can lead to unstable animals.

Given the first point that you have an unstable but tenacious, powerful dog, possibly in the hands of an owner that is not in control of the dog, it sounds like a recipe for a tragic event.

Sounds like this owner wants to prove a point at all costs and may have been blinded by ideology, rather than guided by good practice.

Domesticated animals to me are a clean slate and their temperament are made by their owners. I've seen idiots turn their pits into killing machines so that they can look so damned cool, and I have seen owners with their pits whom their babies sleep with them.

Part of this story (which was not covered by the URL) is that the male pit was not neutered. That meant the owner was probably breeding the dog. This also means that they become more intense as the need to procreate increases during certain parts of the year. I've always neutered/spayed my pets. They live longer to me and have an even temperament overall.

The second pit, who was the female was cowering in the corner, was terrified of the situation. The female pit did not attack the woman and was cleared from animal control and given back to the owner.

It is sad this situation happen but it did happen and there is nothing to change that fact.

My view is that if you are going to breed animal then you are going to have to take precautions. They are not pets in my belief as this is normally done to sell the animals for profit.

If you really want a family pet make sure you know what you are getting into and make sure that your pet is spayed/neutered.

So he remains 100% convinced that Pit Bulls arn't unsafe in the slightest after it mauled (unprovoked, it would seem) his wife to death?

The problem with pit bulls is a combination of things. Yes, they can be well trained, obedient, and just plain lovely dogs. In fact the friendliest dog I've ever met was a pit bull.

Too many untrained owners raise pit bulls in order to appear more masculine, more in line with the ghetto culture, or more threatening. Those dogs are used essentially as attack dogs.

Any dog that is not trained to exceptional levels can be unpredictable and dangerous should you surprise/shock/anger it. Pit bulls and certain other breeds are somewhat more prone to bouts of 'rage'.

Pit Bulls are extremely powerful and quick dogs. It's often said that a man with a blade is the most dangerous creature on the planet, but unless you're a powerfully built and quick witted male, you're going to be extremely hard pressed to fight one off. Should a pit bull attack a child or average woman said victim will be at the mercy of the dog. To make matters worse attacks frequently occur with multiple animals, making death certain in many cases.


TLDR; the easiest solution would be to ban them. The smart solution would be to greatly regulate them. Neither is going to happen and every year several will die to maulings.

I would rather have my two "wolf dogs" (97% and 75%), though to be honest, both are well trained.

iirc Several incidents including Pit Bulls led to a Dangerous Dogs Act being rushed through Parliament.
As a result it has not been totally successful and somewhat controversial.

Pit Bulls were banned, but they are still being bred because of the macho image and again iirc they are also being used for dog fighting. :(

Goddard wrote:So he remains 100% convinced that Pit Bulls arn't unsafe in the slightest after it mauled (unprovoked, it would seem) his wife to death?

Well of course, the papers didnt mention how foul and hurtful the lady was in her sleep. Soooooo did the baby make it?

KingCracker wrote:

Goddard wrote:So he remains 100% convinced that Pit Bulls arn't unsafe in the slightest after it mauled (unprovoked, it would seem) his wife to death?

Well of course, the papers didnt mention how foul and hurtful the lady was in her sleep. Soooooo did the baby make it?

Nope.

Good god thats even worse. So it killed his sleeping wife, AND his unborn child, and he still wants to bury the remains with her?

KingCracker wrote:Good god thats even worse. So it killed his sleeping wife, AND his unborn child, and he still wants to bury the remains with her?

Some people are flying rodent gak insane.

I like to say
"That fella is fruitier then a gak house rat"


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yikes, problems with typing I guess lol

Dare say the press is heavily edited to concentrate on the dog angle. But there seems to be a lack of reported remorse.
The loss of wife and child must be devastating.
Who would not blame themselves with "if only I had done/not done X,Y,Z" yet this seems conspicuous by its absence.

Very peculiar given the tragic circumstances.

I had a pitbull once. One of the sweetest dogs I have ever known. Chows on the other hand are complete donkey caves.

I wonder if the pit in this story was a rescue that had a traumatic past. Sad that the woman had to die by mauling that be awful beyond words.

But yeah. Chows suck.

DarkTraveler777 wrote:I had a pitbull once. One of the sweetest dogs I have ever known. Chows on the other hand are complete donkey caves.

I wonder if the pit in this story was a rescue that had a traumatic past. Sad that the woman had to die by mauling that be awful beyond words.

But yeah. Chows suck.

I've been attacked by a chow, one of my mom's aunts was almost attacked by a chow. Those dogs suck.

Sasori wrote:While I generally agree on the front that a dogs temperament comes mostly from how an owner trains and treats their dogs, the issue of Pit bulls going out of control seems to be a lot more common, and I think indicative of an issue with the breed as well.

It's also possible that it simply is more widely reported, since "child mauled by a dachshund" isn't as sensationalistic and won't drive traffic as well.

Ouze wrote:

Sasori wrote:While I generally agree on the front that a dogs temperament comes mostly from how an owner trains and treats their dogs, the issue of Pit bulls going out of control seems to be a lot more common, and I think indicative of an issue with the breed as well.

It's also possible that it simply is more widely reported, since "child mauled by a dachshund" isn't as sensationalistic and won't drive traffic as well.

It also isn't the same level of violence inflicted by an animal. And, just for the record, children that get mauled by small animals make for great headlines too.

http://lancmoms.com/blogs/entry/Baby-s-fingers-eaten-by-ferret-Where-were-the-parents-

Its more widely reported in this particular case (if you can call a single fringe website "widely" reported since I didn't see any mention of it today on cnn or msnbc) because of the horrific nature of the act (a dog mauling a pregnant woman to death as opposed to a dachshund causing someone to need a few stitches) in addition to the sheer irony of the owners' beliefs and activities (promoting the cuddliness of the breed).

What's most troubling is that this thread is hours old and Frazzled hasn't swung by and posted some wiener dog picture. I'm considering pressing the alert button and asking the mods to swing by his house for a wellness check.

At the Minnesota Zoo, some toddler was viciously attacked by Meerkats.

Child mauled =/= pregnant women killed.