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If you visit GW website with any frequency, you might have seen a Space Marine showcase they featured about a week ago. They had posted pictures of various paint marine chapters being painted by a member of one of their Stockholm GW stores. One of the models is a fantastic looking storm lords marine. I have been wracking my brain since seeing that picture, trying to replicate the red and different colors used. I want a realistic red to paint a Blood Angels army with. Can anyone provide either a breakdown (anything will help) of that storm lord red or a tutorial or your method of painting realistic red. If you dont understand what I mean by realistic, go tp GW site and look at the archived posts, you shouldnt have to go back to far.

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but if I have to guess something:

1. prime white
2. paint red (maybe with purple, brown or blue ink)
3 wash red with red ink
4 highlight red
5 matt varnish/satin varnish

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Washing red with red doesn't seem to accomplish much. Sepia works much better.

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I agree with Aerethan- washing red with red doesn't do much, like washing blue with blue. Try devlan mud, too. I don't have sepia, but devlan works for me.

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It may not look like it's doing anything, but it clears up a splotchy basecoat and make it more solid.


 
   
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ok sorry for the long delay. I wanted to post the pic originally, but started this thread on my phone and couldnt upload the pic. So here it is. Id consider myself a veteran at painting miniatures, but I can quite get the tone of this color from the citadel range. Keep in mind, citadel is the only color range available in my area. I tried mixing graveyard earth, scorched brown, beastial brown, vomit brown, everything you could think of with blood red but still cant figure out how this artist got such a soft toned red. It looks incredibly realistic to me and I plan on starting another BA army with this color (if I can replicate it).

I would really appreciate the perspective of all, but most importantly the experienced painters on dak who might be able to help me pinpoint the colors used here (including the highlights on the red). Thanks everyone
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4250 points of Blood Angels goodness, sweet and silky W12-L6-D4
1000 points of Teil-Shan (my own scheme) Eldar Craftworld in progress
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650 points of my do-it-yourself Tempest Guard
675 points of Commoraghs finest!

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Hmmm I'd say Red Gore Base, with a shadow of red gore/black mix and going up to a red gore/blood red mix for the area highlights. They've also seemed to have edge highlighted with blazing orange.

   
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The best color to wash red with to get natural shading is green.

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ArmorOfContempt wrote:The best color to wash red with to get natural shading is green.

Are you sure? Red is a warm colour and green is cold so there's too much of a clash and contrast there to get a good shade. Most people usually shade with a brown colour such as sepia or brown.

   
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Eggroll wrote:
ArmorOfContempt wrote:The best color to wash red with to get natural shading is green.

Are you sure? Red is a warm colour and green is cold so there's too much of a clash and contrast there to get a good shade. Most people usually shade with a brown colour such as sepia or brown.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementary_colors

The best color to shade with to get natural shading is always the complement of the color. Here's another article: http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=36&page=1

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I could give it a shot Contempt....what color green would you recommend -- dark angels green?

Eggroll -- I stayed away from red gore because it was giving more of a burghundy color everytime I mixed it. I will try to pay around with it some more and see what I come up with

Keep posting your ideas about the colors used!

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1000 points of Teil-Shan (my own scheme) Eldar Craftworld in progress
800 points of unassembled Urban themed Imperial Guard
650 points of my do-it-yourself Tempest Guard
675 points of Commoraghs finest!

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Element206 wrote:I could give it a shot Contempt....what color green would you recommend -- dark angels green?

Eggroll -- I stayed away from red gore because it was giving more of a burghundy color everytime I mixed it. I will try to pay around with it some more and see what I come up with

Keep posting your ideas about the colors used!


I use Thraka wash when I'm feeling lazy, but I'd think a 2-3 parts DA green and 1 part of Orkhide Shade would probably be the best.

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Thraka wash, I feel the urge to give it a try right now. Interesting idea.

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Sentinel wrote:Thraka wash, I feel the urge to give it a try right now. Interesting idea.


The flag on my Doomwheel is nothing more than a Thraka wash over Vallejo Heavy Red:



I don't know why I didn't think to post this before. But that's the kind of shade that green gives you.

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Wow, that's really nice. Now I definitely need to try it.

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Arlington TX, but want to be back in Seattle WA

Thanks for the recommendation Contempt. I would have never thought to shade with green, I will see how it turns out for me after I mix and water it down to a wash consistency.

Well that will possibly take care of the shading on the red, but what about the actual red color? I tried blending the red starting with a base of 1:1 blood red scorched brown -- I continued blending up to the light source until I was at about a 5:1 blood/scorched ratio. Then I started playing around with the highlights. It looks like whoever painted the stormlord mixed the red with a yellow to lighten it up rather than going right for blazing orange....I dont think orange was used here. And for what its worth, the painter was an employee of GW in Stockholm....which im going to make the assumption that he stuck with their line of paints.

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4250 points of Blood Angels goodness, sweet and silky W12-L6-D4
1000 points of Teil-Shan (my own scheme) Eldar Craftworld in progress
800 points of unassembled Urban themed Imperial Guard
650 points of my do-it-yourself Tempest Guard
675 points of Commoraghs finest!

The Dude - "Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man."

Lord Helmet - "I bet she gives great helmet."

 
   
 
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