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HQ
1 Tervigon with Catalyst and Onslaught 190

1 Tyranid Prime with adrenal galnds toxin sacs 100

Troops

3 Warroris withadrenal galnds toxin sacs and a venom cannon and the other 2 have devourers 145

30 Termagunts with adrenal galnds toxin sacs and devourers 360
30 Termagunts with adrenal galnds toxin sacs and devourers 360

Elites
Hive Guard X2 100
Hive Guard X2 100

Venomthrope 55

Heavy Support
1 Carnifex with adrenal galnds toxin sacs and Tl Devourers with brainleech worms 195
1 Carnifex with adrenal galnds toxin sacs and Tl Devourers with brainleech worms 195 ALL IN SAME BROOD
1 Carnifex with adrenal galnds toxin sacs and Tl Devourers with brainleech worms 195

Total 1995

Strategy:-- The warrior brood will provide delicious synapse for the 60 Gaunts the Prime with give its synapse to the Carnifexes the venomthrope will be behind the warriors providing cover for them and a few gaunts while the hive guard move with the Tervigon poping out more gaunts and they all run togeather in a sweeping advance (Armor may be an issue).

in the shooting phase my 60 gaunts with devourers will shoot 180shots (whose the shootiest now Orks?) of worms at stuff along with the warriors the carnifexes will make way for heavy units shooting thier devourers along the way. The Hive guard will provide a wall of chitin in front of the Tervigon while if in range shooting stuff around corners and the Prime will follow the Carnifexes until the enemy HQ is destroyed then he will go join the Gaunts and leave the Carnifexes to run around and tip stuff over.

Competitive? You have a long way to go bro.

Commissar41.0 wrote:HQ

1 Tervigon with scything talons and onslaught 180

WHY are you taking Tervigons? They are meant to spawn and buff termigants, this does not buff termigants. Scything talons is meh, as he shouldn't ideally be in combat. A tervigon without catalyst is just wrong. I also suggest Toxin-sacs and Adrenal Glands

Troops

9 warriors with leader having rending claws and barbed strangler the other 8 have Deathsptters 330

Warriors are not competitive, at all. You also seems mistaken about gear loadouts, with the exception of the heavy weapon (Barbed strangler in this case) they all have to have exactly the same gear. There is no "leader".

12 Termagaunts all with Devourers 120

Meh, too small a squad to be effective. Should be 15-20 ideally.

1 Tervigon with crushing claws and onslaught 200

Need catalyst, crushing claws is not a worthwhile upgrade...ever. Toxin/adrenal needed.

6 Ripper bases with tunnel swarm and spinefists 102

Not competitive ever. Tunnel swarm and spinefists make a bad unit actually worse.

Fast Attack

30 gargoyles 180
30 gargoyles 180

Need Adrenal glands and toxin-sacs. It's a massive increase in killing power.

Heavy Support

Carnifex with venom cannon and regeneration 210
Carnifex with venom cannon 185

If taken as a brood they need to have the same gear. If taken solo they can be equipped differently. Venom-cannons are poor, regeneration is bad. Carnifexes are run with twin-scything talons for melee-fexes or 2xBL-devourers for anti-tank and at best are semi-viable. There is no viable third option.

Biovore 45
Biovore 45

Depending if your Carnifexes are a brood or not, this will be 1 squad. I question WHY you need them when you have 12 dev gaunts and 60 gargoyles for anti-infantry.

Elites

Hive Guard 50
Hive Guard 50

2000 points is a minimum of 6 Hive Guard if you want to even make a pretense of being competitive with Tyranids.

Lictor 65

Not even remotely competitive. Drop.

Venomthrope 55

Aren't bad, but need a squad of 3, screened, with a Tyranid prime for missile catching, otherwise it's a waste of an extremely valuable elite slot.

Harsh, but very fair advice tbh.

Updated list to allow for more ranged units and synapse is no longer an issue

Well, this is just my opinion, but I would drop TS or AG (or both!) on Prime and give him Boneswords. The Terms, well having AG on Terms just seems silly to me, though I can see why you might put TS on them. Devourers on the terms are ok I would take em off give them fleshborers and get more units/upgrades in. Add a Venomthrope or 2 to that brood just to make its effect cover more units. Wondering why you put TS on the carnifexes as they have str 9, would take it off. AG on the fexes seems a little overkill as well.

I would add some stealers w/ TS and some hormagaunts w/TS. Maybe a Trygon or 2 if you have the points.

ok I understand some of the stuff you suggested but Hormagaunts usless sorry they are the Prime is not going into CC Trygon cost to much for the army I am using and has no place and in my experience Stealers become the target of everyone due to rending claws and inflitration so I never have time to effectivly use them and I need the Devourers because when you face anything bigger than a Grot you need to give them as many wounds as possible( I have seen a squad of 20 take out a 10 man dev. squad leaving them with still having to allocate 6 wounds). but I agree on the TS on carnifexes and the Venomthropes

I honestly dont see the point on putting toxin sacs on a Carniflex, its a Str 9 after all.. you are better off just putting AG on it and hope you can charge in with a initiative 4.

Also, Genestealers are too good to not being in a list, outflank, infiltrate or something. My personal experience is that i managed to kill off a 6 man Terminator squad with just 8 stealers and a broodlord ( with implant attack mind you )

As for Hormas you got to have both AG and TS.