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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker





Leesburg, FL

I recently bought the blood angels furioso dreadnought kit for the purpose of building a Death Company Dread. I plan on running this unit with a pair of blood talons, but I would also like the option to use a pair of blood fists and the magna-grapple if the mood strikes me. Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Really!!! You cheap SOB's couldn't put just 2 more blood fist "finger's" on the sprue!! Don't tell me that there wasn't room, each one is about the size of a maggot!!! And what about the cost?? 2 PIECES OF PLASTIC THAT ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN MOST OF THE SPRUE COULDN'T COST MORE THAN .03 CENTS!!!!! Just one more way GW puts the screw to us as the customer, what do they expect me to do? Buy another $40 model, just for (2) fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rant over!

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I am having difficulty finding sympathy for someone running Blood Talons and coming up naught

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TedNugent wrote:I am having difficulty finding sympathy for someone running Blood Talons and coming up naught

This.

Who cares? just put on whatever and call it whatever.

 
   
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sub-zero wrote:


Really? At least your army's kits have all the options in the box. Cry to a chaos or Sisters player and see what it gets you...

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There is much anger in the OP.

Calm down, take a breath, go get drunk. I'm sure if you make it look scary enough with whatever you have, your opponent will believe when you call them blood talons.

Frankly, I wouldn't know the difference, so long as you say what they are and paid the points. A scary looking fist/talon thing is still a scary looking fist/talon thing.

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LOL not @ OP but at the picture...

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Longtime Dakkanaut





Gulf Breeze Florida

Flex your conversion muscle.

IMO if I were to run blood talons, I would pick up a talos( or a Soulgrinder) kit and see what I could drum up with the Dread.


Will it cost more? Yes.

Will it be cool as all get out on the field? Yes


But you're talking to a guy that runs four Daemon Heralds on Chariots (AKA models that don't exist and I had to kitbash ) and spend about 300 bucks total just to trick them out.

Same goes for anyone that made ANYTHING for nids that was just recently released as a kit. They had to put some good money into it, but they look way better than the GW kit.

Edit: I forgot they changed the look of the Talos when they made the new DE so that one wouldn't work as well, but now I wanna make a Blood Talon dread with some kitbashing. *Off to GW's website*

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i noticed that too. very strange considering they give you two sets of the circular finger attachement things.

but overall i think it's a great kit.
   
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Obviously you are getting screwed by getting into this hobby

GW has the leet scamz

Basically when you have people that will buy anything, everyone else with a passing interest should stay far, far away

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I thought not having spare parts (unless absolutely necessary) was pretty par for the course with GW kits. I'm not sure why this particular instance is so shocking. Besides that, it's always a good idea to check the sprue (as can be done with the newer kits on GW's website) to see if it comes with what you need.

Bottom line, this is the whole reason we have conversions.

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Xca|iber wrote:I thought not having spare parts (unless absolutely necessary) was pretty par for the course with GW kits. I'm not sure why this particular instance is so shocking. Besides that, it's always a good idea to check the sprue (as can be done with the newer kits on GW's website) to see if it comes with what you need.

Bottom line, this is the whole reason we have conversions.


If this sort of thing is typical, all the more reason to get upset.

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I saw the title of this thread and thought "well, this should be pretty good". It didnt really live up to expectations. Really you're only ranting about that, why not go off on GW about all the other stuff they do to piss off their customer base. Not only does this post seem to be very self centered in that you're only concerned about the stuff thats happened to you, but it also seems to lack a purpose. What did you expect to come out of this? Did you expect a bunch of other angry agreements? Are we supposed to form an angry mob, get on a plane, and go storm the GW Nottingham HQ to demand better sprue design? This is the internet, why would you rant to us when you know that the only responses you'll get are ones like this or the ones before mine?
   
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TedNugent wrote:
Xca|iber wrote:I thought not having spare parts (unless absolutely necessary) was pretty par for the course with GW kits. I'm not sure why this particular instance is so shocking. Besides that, it's always a good idea to check the sprue (as can be done with the newer kits on GW's website) to see if it comes with what you need.

Bottom line, this is the whole reason we have conversions.


If this sort of thing is typical, all the more reason to get upset.


I don't really see any reason to be upset. As with any luxury hobby, it's a good idea to do a bit of research before investing any money in the product. I've only been in this hobby for a little over 2 years and after my first couple of purchases I became well aware of the scarcity of bits.

It's not great form to just assume that a kit has enough spare bits to build fully complete "exchangeable" parts, then get angry when that isn't the case.

Sure, GW would be a lot better if you got more for your money, but I just don't see why this example is somehow more terrible than any other bitz-related nuisance.

/2cents

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sub-zero wrote: Upon assembly of the model I notice that the sprues contain (8) blood fist "fingers" and (6) blood talon "fingers", but the model requires (2) of the blood fist "fingers" to complete the blood talons. Therefore you can only choose one or the other to build!

Unless you just leave the shorter finger off the talons.

Nobody will even notice.

 
   
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge





Boston, MA

Oh no, two really tiny fingers for a hand are missing in my box! I shouldn't suck it up and convert them for myself or leave them off, I should write a really angry, impassioned, and poorly thought out post! I definitely couldn't make do!

Honestly, what you should have done is use the two fingers as the bottom claw on each hand, then used the claws themselves for the other three fingers, with them facing the top. It's really not hard and pretty much nobody will notice. Alternately, spend like three bucks on eBay and buy the bits. This is, at worst, a "GW, realy?" moment, not a "GW is literally Satan and Saddam Hussein's lovechild" one.

EDIT: Removed one part I thought was too acerbic.

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Yeah man! My Carnifex kit only comes with one set of devourers! And my Hive Tyrant kit doesn't come with any!
This is absurd! We should revolt!

Or, you know... not care.

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I have no mouth and I must bitch.

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Brother SRM wrote:I have no mouth and I must bitch.

Parody of I have no mouth and I must scream?

And OP, depending on how many dreads you plan on fielding at once, you can say blood talon is blood fist and vice versa easily.

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Houston, Tx

It's just like the Tactical Marine boxes. The codex has options for lots of weapons, but you only have the bolter, flamer, or plasma gun.

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LunaHound wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:I have no mouth and I must bitch.

Parody of I have no mouth and I must scream?

That is the joke.
This is a post explaining the joke.

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sub-zero wrote:

Rant over!

Get over it! I have to buy so many kits for my Chaos Marines. I converted my additonal CC weapon for my Defiler and you don't see me act like an emo kid. Use a magic thing call Green Stuff. It looks like this:

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They should sell power sword sprues they'd make some $$$.

 
   
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Great White wrote:Yay, GW complain thread!


This.

If you think it is GW's duty to make their kits as modular as possible you are sorely mistaken. Their job is to sell models, our job is to be creative.
   
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440192a&prodId=prod900150a

They use 1 normal claw/finger on each blood talon and 3 blood talon claw/fingers.

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Great White wrote:Yay, GW complain thread!


That time of the week already, I see.

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I got that beat. The Ork Nobs box comes with five nobs but only three powerklaws. It's infuriating. And the AoBR Nobs don't come with any options.

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warpcrafter wrote:I got that beat. The Ork Nobs box comes with five nobs but only three powerklaws. It's infuriating. And the AoBR Nobs don't come with any options.

Wound allocation is one cool thing.

 
   
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Holy gak is this thread really happening?

The Blood Talon assembly uses 3 long fingers and one short. The short finger is the hand's "thumb". See pictured Death Company Dreadnought.





Next time please make use of your Eyeballs before flying off the handle.
EDIT: Also, I can't believe how unhelpful everyone was with this apparent mystery. I'm giving this entire thread a 3/10.

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I spent £60 for a 75 point model. Stop complaining.

It was a hydra though...

Still, plasticard is your friend. so is Greenstuff.

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