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Been a while since i played and have only had a couple of games with new Necrons. Any advice and/or opinions are very welcome.

The list is for use in a friendly tourny where i *think* I will be facing Red Scorpions, Blood Angels and IG.


Overlord - Phaeron, Phase Shifter, Res Orb, Warscythe
Royal Court:
Lord - Res orb
Harbinger of the Storm - Voltaic Staff, Lightning Field

9 Warriors - Ghost Ark (with Cryptek)
10 Warriors (with Lord)
9 Immortals - gauss (With Overlord)

10 Scarabs
4 Destroyers

Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge
Monolith



Stuff i can swap out/in:

Imhotek
41 more Warriors
3 Wraiths
5 Destroyers
1 Heavy Destroyer
2 C'Tan
1 more Monolith
2 Tomb Spiders

I'm new to necrons but I have a few suggestions to make. I would suggest changing your overlord and lord with Nemesor Zahndrekh, this way you can change your tactics a little every battle and you could use Vargard Obyron also. Field a 20 man block of necron warriors and put a cryptek Harbringer of the storm and Lightning field in it and put Nemesor Zahndrekh in it. Nemesor Zahndrekh also should give them counter attack. This way you have a very effective counter assault unit. If an enemy charges they will have to suffer D6 St 8 AP 5 attacks beforehand and then 40 str 4 ccb attacks and 3 STR 5 ccb attacks.

EDIT:
I now read that this is only the first tun. sorry.

The Overlord may be a little too decked out and pricy. Also Destroyers are not that worth while right now. Something like tomb blades would be better if you want the shooty speed and if it is a friendly game you should be able to proxy destroyers for tomb blades as there is no tomb blade model yet.

I have not seen the monolith be that effective for the points either. Maybe switch that out with the tomb spiders so you can pump out more scarabs. I would really work the wraiths in there and give them whip coils so you have some sort of CC because in that list the best CC you have is the super expensive overlord who with I2 is going last in most cases.

Hmmm. i was thinking of going with Tomb Blades but thought Destroyer woudl be better seeing as 2 of my 3 opponents will be marines and AP3 guns could be good.

Does the reduced cost make up for the weaker guns and worse armour on tomb blades?

Just remembered, i also have a FW Tomb Stalker i have not had chance to buidl yet so i could swap out the 'lith for that. Anyone used one of them at all?

I made a Doom Scythe Model from scratch and i must say at 1500 pts its bringing a heck of a punch for the points cost but in the same breath it has been taken out quick too because of AV11 with no shields. look at my gallary to view it. but it along with my D-Lord is pretty much a must take for me now with my tactics that i use. also use alot of warriors and ghost ark.. there is nothing better then for your enemy to waist a round of shooting up your warriors for you to turn around and have the unit back up to almost full strenght by your turn.. lol. i'm about 30% wins 70% loss right now most of my games that we have been playing is only 1000 so really hard to build a tough well rounded roster at only 1000 but having fun and thats why we do what we do.

So do you thinhk i shoudl drop the Immortals and field a blob of warriors instead? I thought that 10 relentless gauss immortals woudl be pretty mean.

My theory with the Lith was to try an DS it on the opposite side of the table, that way i can hold my foto units back and port them through later in the game - viable tactic or too risky/stupid?

the only game si hav had so far have been 1500 vs BA and fought to a draw, and 1000 vs IG in which i wiped him out completely.

Really your tactic isnt that bad Praxiss.. if i was taking this roster i'd drop my Destoyers and load up on guass Tomb Blades and maybe add some more warriors and let your ghost ark support them.. as far as DS monlith.. is risky because its sooo big. but no guts no glory right. in fact i might see what i can come up with almost using the same roster.

I think in this list the Destroyers and Monolith stand out like a sore thumb. Destroyers are too expensive and not that good anymore, same for the Monolith.

The rest of the stuff is ok.

So drop the 'lith and Destoryer (and immortals?)

and bring in Tomb Blades and mayeb more warriors/spyders.

one concern i have been having with this list
in a 1500 game do you think 3 troops choices is enough?

I took your roster and what i did with it was, drop the Destoryers, sub in 5 tomb blades TL gauss blaster, and shield vane.. then added one more unit of warriors that way they look like this.

8X warriors
8X warriors
8X warriors.

thats if you want to keep your immortals and monolith.
1500 pts on the nose


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oh if you have another cryptek .. then drop the reg lord with res orb.. let your ghost ark rebuild the fallen warriors.. i then would add another cryptek as harb of Destruction.. with solar pulse to get that first round of night fight to get your guys into position. gaze of flame to eat up ten points

oppps i forgot i also lowerd your swarm count to 7.. use them as tarpit / speed bump.

Praxiss wrote:So drop the 'lith and Destoryer (and immortals?)

and bring in Tomb Blades and mayeb more warriors/spyders.

one concern i have been having with this list
in a 1500 game do you think 3 troops choices is enough?

Yes, drop the Monolith and Destroyers. Keep the Immortals. Spyders would be great for Scarabs, though consider the Scarabs will run off as they are beasts and will leave the Spyders out of range. I would really get another Annihilation Barge for the heavy support choice and more Scarabs or Wraiths for fast attack.

3 troop choices are 1,500 points is fine.

Praxiss .. i think either one advice would do very well.. also depends on how and what models you like to play as well. keep inmind we are still at the mercy of the dice. lol. I like the monolith even though it got kinda nerfed in this codex but still a nice model to have on the board with serval options .. aka trans port portal ,, door of death.. I took out padro once with the door its a shocker to your apponet to have to remove a model because he got sucked into the doom portal..lol.

OK, how about this as a revised list?

Overlord - Phearon, Phase Shifter, res Orb, Warscythe
Lord - res orb
Harbinger of the Storm - Voltaic Staff, Lightning Field

10 Warriors - Ghost Ark
20 Warriors - (with Lord and Cryptek)
10 Immortals - Gauss (With Overlord)

10 Scarabs
5 Tomb Blades (Gauss)

Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge
2 Tomb Spiders




or i can drop the spiders for another 5 'Blades....but i do like the idea of spawning extra units for free.

the only thing i get nervs about at 20 man unit size.. sweep advance sucks for us cron players. so i would drop the 10 base swarm down to 8,, because your tomb spiders can just kick two out at first round.. and add TL partical beamer to the spyders.. i'd split the 20 man unit to two 10.. sure run them together if you want but that way if they get tied up into combat then you won't lose like 15 models to SA.

Good point, I have a practice game next monday so i will try this list and re-evaluate if needed.

Thanks for the help!

The partical projector thingy is too expensive on Spyders. To would allocate take a fabricator claw array.

Ok, makes sense. And it free up point for 9 swarms....or 11 after turn 1.

Right revised, revised list....../sigh

thinking of the Cryptek, the whol point in the Voltaic staff was the Haywire power firing out the of th Ghost Ark....btu if he's goign to be in there isn't Lightning Field a waste of points? or shoudl i keep it just in case the unit gets charged to give them a fighting chance......


OverLord - Phearon, Phase Shifter, Res Orb, Warscythe
Lord - Res Orb
Harbinger of the Storm - Voltaic Staff, Lightning Field

9 Warriors - Ghost Ark (with Cryptek)
10 Warriors (with Lord)
10 Warriors
10 Immortals - Gauss (With Overlord)

10 Scarabs
5 Tomb Blades - Gauss

Annihilation Barge - Gauss Cannon
Annihilation Barge - Gauss Cannon
2 Tomb Spiders - 1 Fabricator Array

1497 Points

yeah Praxiss that looks awsome right there. i'd keep the lightning field just incase the ark goes down and you have to bail out.. you have some sort of defensive action when Close Combat happens.. looks good though.. please keep us informed on how this works.. i'd def run this list no problems. first round your swarm size will be 12 .. nice very nice.

The 10 Warriors with the Lord, they just objective holders?

I would say yes that way if CC happens with them you have a maybe with a power weapon.. makes you just a tad bit harder to get off the objective..

Just take 5 in that case. Why spent extra points and a Lord which isn't that awesome in combat anyway. Put the unit in reserve.

If it was an objectives game I would keep one of the warrior units back to hold the home objective.

We will be rolling for each game so there is no definite game type for the tourney. I think i would rather have a squad of 10 in case it was an Annihilation game, that way they can still be effective.

I might take off a scarab swarm (since i can regenerate them in turn 1) and give the lord a Warscythe to make him a bit more hurty if CC does happen.

Dude, you only need 5 Warriors in that case and in all situations you keep them in reserve. That's what I do with Immortals and more often than not they win me the game, at least in objectives. I keep them in reserve and they walk on and get my objective, I fight off the enemy units with my army. In kill points they stay in reserve and if they come I hide them best I can. You don't need a bucket of points to sit on a objective. You would have learnt this trick if you play Orks and use Gretchin for objectives, those little guys won me so many games it was unbelievable.

My point of view is.. if they are not on the table .. then they can't shot.. and i try to make every turn effective. so yes holding back there is no promise that you can shoot but if you can woulnt it be nice to kill at lease one model that is heading your way befor they get into you .. instead of letting a full squad take and hold the objective? thats just IMO .. necrons are last turn objective takers but still.. if i can kill a model every turn , every phase then they are points well spent in my book.

Last turn objective takers? How do you mean?

I thought that woudl be how the monoloth woudl be best used, slowly float it towards an objective and portal unit through at the last minute.

do you mean just march them implacably accross the table?

Again - sorry for my noob-ish questions. Since new job and child i hardly ever get to play anymore so i have forgotten a lot.

no prob praxiss...yes you kinda got the idea.. most times i've played.. i'd have to march or VOD a unit to aquire an objective..but also use things such as destroyers or now tomb blades to turbo boost and contest enemy objectives.. don't for get about that.. it not just can you keep an objective but if you contest an objective that keeps the enemy from winning that one.. we can use swarms as well march them accross .. you will loose some due to enemy fire. but keep a tomb spyder pumping swarms out.. infact during the last tournament i played.. i used swarms to keep an objective contested .. had my warriors sitting on a objective and used my Dlord and praetorians to contest another so i won 1 - 0. but im not a pro at tactics at all.. but i do what i can to try and help other cron players as well.. remeber two heads think better then one.

Imotekh is the key to victory. Back him up with some combination of Crypteks, Wraiths, Immortals, C'tan Shard, and Annihilation Barges. Most broken army ever if used right.

I am going to have to look at Imotekh again... i've used him a couple of times right when the codex was released and i did get a good feel about it.. didn't seem like he was a hard hitting unit... i never got the lighting thing to happen .. i did enjoy the night fighting keep most of my guys in cover. he seems more like an assault HQ.. but i've got some games under my belt now and think i'll take a second look at him see if i can use him right.

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here is a list i think i'd like to try at 1500 points with Imotekh.


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idk i was just messing around and put something together i thought would work well given the recent games i've been in.

Dont use small squads of warriors stick to blocks of ten or more, if ypu fighting blood angels consider running 5 wraiths with a couple of whips and mindshackle scarabs on the overlord its well worth the points