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 Wilson wrote:
Why is this even a thread...

Its an interesting subject?

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Pasty white dudes in Nottingham England inventing a boardgame. Thats the start of it. Most of the fans are like that as well, yours truly included. Plus it didn't get better that the Salamanders mutated into being scary black men. Remind me again, who invented that gak about the Salamanders again?

I mean I was all for them being black from the get-go. Not just turning black. Who wrote that again? Adolf Hitler?

Ahh, you have to love today's society. Where a decision that a bunch of people on a planet with high radiation turned black because that was a cool sci-fyey sounding idea turns into something compared to Hitler.

That, and a guy from Norway referring to another country's people as "pasty white". There's a fairly amusing bit of irony there.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
They are supposed to be the nicest Space Marine-chapter. Though I personally think that's the Imperial Fists since they don't take personal command of warzones and only advice. Of course the Salamanders gets bonus points for sticking around regular human beings. But it was their geneseed now unfortunately that mutated them into scary black men. Of course I doesn't like that one bit.

So you're saying that they're scary because they have black skin? Nice.

IG are the only place you'll find different groups anyway. Marines wear armour most of the time so you're left with scouts and a few HQ heads to show what they look like.

Now why are all eldar (including dark) really white skinned. Why can't orks come in different colours or at least shades of green? Let's not just pick on the imperium of um, arr, are we still allowed to say man? Maybe it should be changed to the Imperium of people?

Computron wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
They are supposed to be the nicest Space Marine-chapter. Though I personally think that's the Imperial Fists since they don't take personal command of warzones and only advice. Of course the Salamanders gets bonus points for sticking around regular human beings. But it was their geneseed now unfortunately that mutated them into scary black men. Of course I doesn't like that one bit.

So you're saying that they're scary because they have black skin? Nice.

IG are the only place you'll find different groups anyway. Marines wear armour most of the time so you're left with scouts and a few HQ heads to show what they look like.

Now why are all eldar (including dark) really white skinned. Why can't orks come in different colours or at least shades of green? Let's not just pick on the imperium of um, arr, are we still allowed to say man? Maybe it should be changed to the Imperium of people?

I think focusing and, from what I've seen this thread, projecting political correctness on a game that is openly supposed to be dystopian, dark (for the most part once you get further into the fluff and past some of the ridiculous designs and ideas they've passed around recently for the sake of money) and a time of forlorn hope for humanity seems to be somewhat missing the point. Human lives are expended so quickly by without by xenos or within by claims of heresy that racial or ethnic issues are of little consequence. Especially in a game where you yourself get to choose how to depict your forces and it is in a setting of millions of planets with all sorts of deviancy from the "norm".

Also Orks do potentially come in other colours than green. There's even a story on how their skin changed due to the sand particles sticking inside their skin on a planet called Golgotha.

Computron wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
They are supposed to be the nicest Space Marine-chapter. Though I personally think that's the Imperial Fists since they don't take personal command of warzones and only advice. Of course the Salamanders gets bonus points for sticking around regular human beings. But it was their geneseed now unfortunately that mutated them into scary black men. Of course I doesn't like that one bit.

So you're saying that they're scary because they have black skin? Nice.

IG are the only place you'll find different groups anyway. Marines wear armour most of the time so you're left with scouts and a few HQ heads to show what they look like.

Now why are all eldar (including dark) really white skinned. Why can't orks come in different colours or at least shades of green? Let's not just pick on the imperium of um, arr, are we still allowed to say man? Maybe it should be changed to the Imperium of people?

Well, lore-wise the Salamanders are noted for being frightening in-universe given their pitch black (actual black) skin (some even having scales IIRC), and bioluminescent red eyes. Also I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure the Salamanders were intended either originally, or at least since the 3rd Edition to have jet black skin and look generally inhuman.

3rd edition's Codex: Armageddon actually had a white Salamander in it, and a afro-black one as well. The Salamanders design history was pummeled to death in this thread in earlier pages. No need to hash that one out again.

Computron wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
They are supposed to be the nicest Space Marine-chapter. Though I personally think that's the Imperial Fists since they don't take personal command of warzones and only advice. Of course the Salamanders gets bonus points for sticking around regular human beings. But it was their geneseed now unfortunately that mutated them into scary black men. Of course I doesn't like that one bit.

So you're saying that they're scary because they have black skin? Nice.

IG are the only place you'll find different groups anyway. Marines wear armour most of the time so you're left with scouts and a few HQ heads to show what they look like.

Now why are all eldar (including dark) really white skinned. Why can't orks come in different colours or at least shades of green? Let's not just pick on the imperium of um, arr, are we still allowed to say man? Maybe it should be changed to the Imperium of people?

Nah, I'm saying the Salamanders are scary because they are Space Marines. And I tried to explain history and how stuff happened.

Yes they are scary because they have PITCH BLACK DAEMONIC-LIKE SKIN AND RED EYES, That alone is goddamn terrifying, Add the fact they are ecksbawkshuge superhumans.
And I'm black so +credibility goes to me.

Also flipping through SM 6th edition the specific "scary salamander thing" is a Chapter Master emerging from a massive storm of fire from a traitor hellhound.

This troll thread is retahded...

 Wyzilla wrote:

Computron wrote:


Well, lore-wise the Salamanders are noted for being frightening in-universe given their pitch black (actual black) skin (some even having scales IIRC), and bioluminescent red eyes. Also I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure the Salamanders were intended either originally, or at least since the 3rd Edition to have jet black skin and look generally inhuman.

I guess that depends on what humans see of the imperium. I mean the average tech priest is probably more scary looking than someone with black skin and glowy red eyes. What with mutants, augmetics and the like I think the average citizen sees a lot of weird stuff, weird to us that is.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Pasty white dudes in Nottingham England inventing a boardgame. Thats the start of it. Most of the fans are like that as well, yours truly included. Plus it didn't get better that the Salamanders mutated into being scary black men. Remind me again, who invented that gak about the Salamanders again?

I mean I was all for them being black from the get-go. Not just turning black. Who wrote that again? Adolf Hitler?

Ahh, you have to love today's society. Where a decision that a bunch of people on a planet with high radiation turned black because that was a cool sci-fyey sounding idea turns into something compared to Hitler.

That, and a guy from Norway referring to another country's people as "pasty white". There's a fairly amusing bit of irony there.

You can't even get history nor the Salamanders right?

The text is here about he Sallies: "Also, as a result of a reaction between their genetics and the high levels of radiation on Nocturne, Salamanders battle brothers have dark or jet black skin and bright, burning eyes. This frightening appearance is entirely superficial, but has intimidated more than one rebellion into submission without firing a shot." Page 26 Codex Space Marines 5th edition. Next time read up instead of just prove to me that you are ignorant.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Pasty white dudes in Nottingham England inventing a boardgame. Thats the start of it. Most of the fans are like that as well, yours truly included. Plus it didn't get better that the Salamanders mutated into being scary black men. Remind me again, who invented that gak about the Salamanders again?

I mean I was all for them being black from the get-go. Not just turning black. Who wrote that again? Adolf Hitler?

Ahh, you have to love today's society. Where a decision that a bunch of people on a planet with high radiation turned black because that was a cool sci-fyey sounding idea turns into something compared to Hitler.

That, and a guy from Norway referring to another country's people as "pasty white". There's a fairly amusing bit of irony there.

You can't even get history nor the Salamanders right?

The text is here about he Sallies: "Also, as a result of a reaction between their genetics and the high levels of radiation on Nocturne, Salamanders battle brothers have dark or jet black skin and bright, burning eyes. This frightening appearance is entirely superficial, but has intimidated more than one rebellion into submission without firing a shot." Page 26 Codex Space Marines 5th edition. Next time read up instead of just prove to me that you are ignorant.

Out of respect for cats I will not post the "Kitteh knows you failed" meme. I don't think you grasped VS's statement. Don't be rude.

This is certainly a very intelligent and tightly focused thread and I know I've learned a lot from it, but I think we're getting sidetracked from the real heart of the issue, which is:
Can a dominatrix reproduce?

 fallinq wrote:
This is certainly a very intelligent and tightly focused thread and I know I've learned a lot from it, but I think we're getting sidetracked from the real heart of the issue, which is:
Can a dominatrix reproduce?

Wrong thread

 dusara217 wrote:

 fallinq wrote:
This is certainly a very intelligent and tightly focused thread and I know I've learned a lot from it, but I think we're getting sidetracked from the real heart of the issue, which is:
Can a dominatrix reproduce?

Wrong thread

Methinks someone missed the joke.

And this thread has become an endlessly repeating broken record, with long intervals of going off topic.

Why is this troll thread still going?

Because GW is too lazy to make a black model. In the actual world blacks exist, as does every kind of racial group. They're in the books.

That's it.

There's no other reason.

Move on.

Why is this troll thread still going?

No one knows. It's always been here. It will always be here. It is a sacred ritual, the significance of which has long been lost to the misted memories of mortal men.

 fallinq wrote:

Why is this troll thread still going?

No one knows. It's always been here. It will always be here. It is a sacred ritual, the significance of which has long been lost to the misted memories of mortal men.

Its only like a week old

 dusara217 wrote:

 fallinq wrote:

Why is this troll thread still going?

No one knows. It's always been here. It will always be here. It is a sacred ritual, the significance of which has long been lost to the misted memories of mortal men.

Its only like a week old

2 and a half weeks, but, just like a hydra, cut off the head and two more will appear in its place.

 Jollydevil wrote:

 dusara217 wrote:

 fallinq wrote:

Why is this troll thread still going?

No one knows. It's always been here. It will always be here. It is a sacred ritual, the significance of which has long been lost to the misted memories of mortal men.

Its only like a week old

2 and a half weeks, but, just like a hydra, cut off the head and two more will appear in its place.

Are you suggesting black people are like hydras? Racist!

I dunno...hydras are pretty cool.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I dunno...hydras are pretty cool.

Are you suggesting black people arent cool? racist!