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HQ
Uriah Jacobs, Defender of the Faith- 90
Saint Celestine, The last living Saint- 115

Troop
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Simalcurum Imperialis, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade, Extra Armor} -245
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Simalcurum Imperialis, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade, Extra Armor} -245
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Simalcurum Imperialis, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade, Extra Armor} -245
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Simalcurum Imperialis, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade, Extra Armor} -245

Fast Attack
10 Seraphim W/2 pairs of hand flamers, Seraphim Superior {Power Weapon, Melta Bombs} 210

Heavy Support
5 Retributers W/4 Heavy Flamers, Immolator {Dozer Blades} 235
Exorcist W/Dozer Blade -140
Exorcist W/Dozer Blade -140

Total of 1910

My plan for this list, Uriah is going to join the Retributers at the begining of the game so he doesent have to walk by himself. The job of the Retributers is to pull up and drop, roast an entire unit alive, and then leave. Celestine will fly with the seraphim (obviously) and they will fly around the sides, picking off lone units and attempting to flank. I think their real job will be to handle infantry heavy weapons teams. Once the real fighting for objectives begins and my SoB units begin to fight, Uriah will join one of the units holding an objective to ensure that unit stays alive. The biggest thing is, as you can see, this list is short 90 points. I dont know what to put in here to accomodate those 90. Any ideas oin how to fill that gap? Or anything wrong with the list really. Help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Some tips.

You're spending WAY too much in extra upgrades on your sisters.

Simulacrum, MB, PW, Extra Armor, DB is like 60 points a squad. 180 points is a whole squad you could add in addition to what you have.

Also, go for the Eviscerator on the Seraphim and drop the MB. It does the same thing, but saves you from Dreads.

Have you thought about taking a conclave or dominions? You could swap out one of the BSS and use the extra points I mentioned to get 2 Doms or a Dom and a Conclave pretty easy. Also, take a Simulacrum for your Rets. If you're going to run an easy-bake oven, you need it to work well.


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Also, do not fly Celestine with the Seraphim. Keep them separate. Celestine doesn't need a unit and she actually becomes less effective with one (loses fearless). It also makes the seraphim less durable since they are now a priority target.

I was looking at the Extra armor on the rhino to let it move, no matter what. I can see that I am spending more than a few points on their upgrades though.....

I didnt think about the celestine issue. Should I just take the seraphs out all together?

You're spending 15 points to ignore one result on the table. Not worth it at all. Even less worth it in 6th.

If you aren't married to the Seraphim, I would trade them in for Dominions in an TL-MM Immolator. I personally run 2xFlamer, Combi-Melta, but a lot of folks like 2xMelta, Combi-Flamer.


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My sisters squads at 2k look like this:

10 Sisters, Melta, HF, Rhino, Searchlight - 191
10 Sisters, Melta, MM, Rhino, Searchlight - 181
10 Sisters, Melta, MM, Rhino, Searchlight - 181

Cheap and simple. Your sisters are not going to do anything cool, don't spend a lot on them.

I was looking at the old fashioned flamer based sisters so the 2 flamers combi melta sounds good, though i could see why people want the auto hit on a combi as opposed to the maybe vehicle hit.

My idea is that with 3xDomions in TL-MM immos, you have plenty of tank popping and you need some anti-horde. Which is why I took the flamers. They'll also be good in 6th because you can get d3 autohits when people charge you.

Oh and right now TL Flamers reroll wounds. With a good tank shock, you can get 5-8 guys under a template. 10-16 wounds on a squad hurts anyone.

so this is the new list after taking into consideration everyones comments

HQ
Uriah Jacobs, Defender of the Faith- 90
Saint Celestine, The last living Saint- 115

Troop
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade} -230
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade} -230
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade} -230

Fast Attack
10 Sisters of Dominion W/1 Melta, 1 Flamer, 1 combi flamer, Simalcurum Imperialis, Rhino {Dozer Blades} -218
10 Sisters of Dominion W/1 Melta, 1 Flamer, 1 combi flamer, Simalcurum Imperialis, Rhino {Dozer Blades} -218


Heavy Support
5 Retributers W/4 Heavy Flamers, Simalcurum Imperialis Immolator {Dozer Blades} 255
Exorcist W/Dozer Blade -140
Exorcist W/Dozer Blade -140

Total of 1806
Any ideas to fill out the rest? (194)

Looks fun.

If you have 134 left, I would drop the extra armor (45) and take a battle concave:

9xConclave = 135
Rhino with Dozer = 40

Leaves you at 1996.

If you want a cheap conclave, get a box of Dark Eldar wyches and convert them.

edited a little bit since last saw. got a few more free points after dropping simalcurum on SoB units. And forgot to remove the extra armor from the entry....

60 more points? Hmm. Well, make sure to get 4 Specials for your Dominions.

2 more meltas and 2 more flamers is 30 points. I would drop the PW on the sisters squads as well. That's another 30 or so points. So still 60 extra.

Make the Immo for the Easy Bake an TL-MM one for 15.

45 extra. Hmm. Combi flamer for the Retributor Superior. 30 extra. I guess leave the power weapons. They are going to under perform though.

sounds good. I'm going to mull this over for a few hours and give you guys what should be a final draft for this army. Thanks for the help.

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:so this is the new list after taking into consideration everyones comments

HQ
Uriah Jacobs, Defender of the Faith- 90
Saint Celestine, The last living Saint- 115

Troop
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade} -230
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade} -230
10 Sisters of Battle W/Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun, Sister Superior {Melta Bombs, Power Weapon}, Rhino {Dozer Blade} -230

Fast Attack
10 Sisters of Dominion W/1 Melta, 1 Flamer, 1 combi flamer, Simalcurum Imperialis, Rhino {Dozer Blades} -218
10 Sisters of Dominion W/1 Melta, 1 Flamer, 1 combi flamer, Simalcurum Imperialis, Rhino {Dozer Blades} -218


Heavy Support
5 Retributers W/4 Heavy Flamers, Simalcurum Imperialis Immolator {Dozer Blades} 255
Exorcist W/Dozer Blade -140
Exorcist W/Dozer Blade -140

Total of 1806
Any ideas to fill out the rest? (194)

The Retributor squad is crazy expensive for what it can do but it can be good fun. Anything with 4+ or worse armor will not likely require four heavy flamers to kill so you could drop a couple and the unit would still be pretty effective. Drop the Simulacrum and the unit starts to become reasonably priced. Once it's out of the Immolator, it's probably dead, so you should consider well the likelihood that the unit will earn its keep.

The Dominion squads aren't necessarily much more durable with ten models but they are much more expensive. Given that the unit is useless unless aggressively used, you should keep them cheap and expect them to die, early and often. The Dominons' AoF is very good, but the unit is effective without it. I don't ever spend the points on Simulacra and I always play three Dominion squads.

Battle Sister Superiors are good choices for combi-meltas, especially when one of the upgrades is devoted to a flamer or heavy flamer. Two melta shots are just better than one and a power weapon is just silly on a Battle Sister.

Celestine is very useful solo; she doesn't need a unit to keep her going, just a 4+ every now and then. Point her towards your opponents tender spot and move her out smartly.

Uriah isn't all that much without a Conclave to make him look good. Kyrinov will keep your units in line better, but Uriah's Conclave is just stupidly good; it's hard to understand why any one would ever leave it out of an SoB army list. Really.