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2012/07/18 13:40:12
Subject: Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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RogueSangre
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Are Shrike lists still any good? I wanted to do one in 5th but never got around to it. I was thinking something like this:
HQ (395pts)
Captain Cato Sicarius (200pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Battle-forged Heroes, Combat Tactics, Independent Character, Rites of Battle, Suprise Attack!
Shadow Captain Kayvaan Shrike (195pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Chapter Tactics, Combat Tactics, Independent Character, See, But Remain Unseen
Elites (655pts)
Ironclad Dreadnought (215pts)
Move Through Cover
2x Hunter-Killer Missile, Hurricane Bolter, Ironclad Assault Launchers
Drop Pod
Locator Beacon, Storm Bolter
Seismic Hammer
Meltagun
Sternguard Veteran Squad (240pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics
Combi-Flamer, 2x Combi-Melta, Meltagun, Missile Launcher, 5x Veteran
Drop Pod
Locator Beacon, Storm Bolter
Space Marine Sergeant
Boltgun, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon
Terminator Assault Squad (200pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics
2x Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 3x Twin Lightning Claws
Troops (817pts)
Scout Squad (147pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scouts
Sergeant Telion
4x Scout
4x Camo Cloaks, Missile Launcher, 3x Sniper Rifle
Scout Squad (100pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scouts
4x Scout
2x Combat Blade, 2x Shotgun
Scout Sergeant
Power Fist, Shotgun
Scout Squad (100pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics, Infiltrate, Move Through Cover, Scouts
4x Scout
2x Combat Blade, 2x Shotgun
Scout Sergeant
Power Fist, Shotgun
Tactical Squad (235pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics
Heavy Bolter, Meltagun, 9x Space Marine
Drop Pod
Storm Bolter
Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
Tactical Squad (235pts)
And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics
Meltagun, Multi-Melta, 9x Space Marine
Drop Pod
Storm Bolter
Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
Fast Attack (130pts)
Land Speeder Storm (65pts)
Deep Strike, Scouts
Multi-Melta
Land Speeder Storm (65pts)
Deep Strike, Scouts
Multi-Melta
Cato goes with the Sternguard, and gives Tank hunters to the Heavy Bolter squad. Shrike with the Termies. Ironclad and Sterngaurd drop in first turn, Tac squads drop in as needed. LSS boosts during scout move, can hopefully get into CC first turn, at the very least putting a power fist into a vehicle.
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2012/07/18 14:23:56
Subject: Re:Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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Adolescent Youth with Potential
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Is Shrike any good? Can't believe you had to ask. This is a pretty solid list though. And Cato seems to be the new meta of SM special characters.
Putting Shrike with the Terminators is smart as it gives you choice of deep strike, infiltrate or outflank.
I personally made a 5 man unit of twin lightning -clawed Vanguard Vets that I could take with Shrike. Not really designed to be competitive (5 guys for 310 points!) but I had made them during 4th where Shrike could take his retinue Shrike's Wing. I like the list a lot though. Scary how similar it is to mine.
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2012/07/18 15:20:58
Subject: Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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Ditch the camo cloaks on Telion's squad. He already gives them stealth. Or does this stack in the new edition?
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2012/07/18 15:25:03
Subject: Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Green is Best! wrote:Ditch the camo cloaks on Telion's squad. He already gives them stealth. Or does this stack in the new edition?
stacks! stealth is defined as a certain save now, and camo cloaks as +1 to cover save, so !
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2012/07/18 15:26:13
Subject: Re:Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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Adolescent Youth with Potential
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Characters don't give their units special rules anymore in 6th ed.
Can't remember where but I know I read it in the new rulebook.
And in the Latest 6th edition SM FAQ it lists Telion as having a Camo Cloak. I think they might have taken away his inherent stealth rule.
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5000 points Raven Guard |
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2012/07/18 17:59:14
Subject: Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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RogueSangre
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Thannks for the feedback. Good to know this will still work. I'm still getting used to these rules, especially all the conditions on when you can launch an assault.
The reason I'm paying for cloaks is that even if Telion bites it somehow, I'd like to be able to keep maintain an improved save for the squad. It's 15 points of redundancy I'm willing to pay for.
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2012/07/18 18:19:37
Subject: Re:Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Kayvaan Shrike wrote:Characters don't give their units special rules anymore in 6th ed.
Can't remember where but I know I read it in the new rulebook.
And in the Latest 6th edition SM FAQ it lists Telion as having a Camo Cloak. I think they might have taken away his inherent stealth rule.
Incorrect, only certain enumerated rules are passed on. Stealth requires only a single model in the unit to have it, so it is passed on.
The camo cloaks are not redundant. They give you a continuous 2+ cover save, assuming you are behind something that gives a 4+.
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Beakie Space Marine P&M Blog
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/745028.page |
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2012/07/18 22:56:52
Subject: Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Read the new rulebook and FAQs, there are just too may errors in this thread.
I will just give one: You can not assault on turn after scout or infiltrate :(
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2012/07/19 12:09:37
Subject: Shrike Lists Still Any Good? [C:SM-2k-6th]
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RogueSangre
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MFletch wrote:Read the new rulebook and FAQs, there are just too may errors in this thread.
I will just give one: You can not assault on turn after scout or infiltrate :(
Welp... feth.
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