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2012/08/19 08:13:03
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Sanguinor: If I ally him into a UM force, and with him comes an assault squad and a Stormraven, will his blessing immediately go to the BA sarg (only sarg in the BA army), or do I roll randomly for all sergeants in my list (all sargs in my army)?
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BTW: giving his +1 A to a UM Honour Guard gives them 61 PW attacks on the charge... ouch!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/19 08:13:56
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2012/08/19 08:26:08
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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No, it only effects BA sargeants.
Just like if you have vulkan he'stan, BA don't get OP hand flamers and baal preds, only SM from the same codex.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/19 08:26:29
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2012/08/19 08:29:22
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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blood guard wrote:No, it only effects BA sargeants.
Just like if you have vulkan he'stan, BA don't get OP hand flamers and baal preds, only SM from the same codex.
Well, Vulkan's limited because only units that trade away Combat Tactics benefit, and non- SM can't do that. I don't see that reason being parallel to this situation.
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DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+
Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
QM Templates here, HH army builder app for both v1 and v2
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2012/08/19 09:30:37
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Nonetheless, it still is, I've checked.
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2012/08/19 09:56:48
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Where have you checked? I did notice in the FAQ that his +1 attack from aura only applies to BA units (so sorry, UM Honour guard, no +1 attack for them), but it says nothing anywhere else about his blessing.
Nova GT, Dual Con, and Golden Throne GT are silent, and aren't official... you can't just say something is, can you kindly cite a source?
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DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+
Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
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One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners |
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2012/08/19 10:22:43
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Lobukia wrote:blood guard wrote:No, it only effects BA sargeants.
Just like if you have vulkan he'stan, BA don't get OP hand flamers and baal preds, only SM from the same codex.
Well, Vulkan's limited because only units that trade away Combat Tactics benefit, and non- SM can't do that. I don't see that reason being parallel to this situation.
Vulkans ability does NOT rely on having combat tactics first. There are just two effects of his rule - losing combat tactics AND gaining the other rules. Dreadnoughts in a 'manders force would still get twin linked MM, for example.
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2012/08/19 10:38:15
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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This may not be the most reliable of sources, but I have asked a variety of GW workers.
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2012/08/19 12:22:28
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Unless the FAQ says only BA, it would effect any BB ally that has a Sarge.
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2012/08/19 15:12:18
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Member of the Malleus
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Happyjew wrote:Unless the FAQ says only BA, it would effect any BB ally that has a Sarge.
At first glance this seems to be the point, abuse it till they FAQ it :p
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2012/08/19 15:32:45
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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hazal wrote: Happyjew wrote: Unless the FAQ says only BA, it would effect any BB ally that has a Sarge.
At first glance this seems to be the point, abuse it till they FAQ it :p
I actually DON'T want it affecting my Space Marines if I bought it in an allied force. If it only affects my allies force, I can drop the +1s on a purpose built assault sarg. If it affects all sargs, I have to choose one randomly... which means it could end up on a devastator sarg with a boltgun and pistol in back.
It just seemed, RAW, that I would have to make all my sargs eligible for the blessing.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/08/19 15:34:30
DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+
Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
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One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners |
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2012/08/19 15:34:39
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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You randomly choose not choose who you want, so if it's not on your allies it could end up anywhere such as a devastator sergeant.
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2012/08/19 15:35:36
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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 liturgies of blood wrote:You randomly choose not choose who you want, so if it's not on your allies it could end up anywhere such as a devastator sergeant.
Great minds think alike, beat you to this... barely 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/19 15:36:13
DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+
Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
QM Templates here, HH army builder app for both v1 and v2
One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners |
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2012/08/19 15:37:17
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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NINJA'D!!!!!!!!!
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2012/08/19 17:13:22
Subject: Sanguinor's Blessing
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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The Sanguinor's blessing only affects models in the BA army.
This is because 'Army' in context of the BA book, means Blood Angels Army.
and in light of the FAQ saying his aura only affects units in the BA army, we have a good guideline to go by for similar abilities that have 'army' wide effects.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/19 17:14:39
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