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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 05:29:44
Subject: Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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I'm looking to make my own terrain for my table and I'm wanting to throw in a crashed ship as kind of a center piece to the table scene. I was curious if anyone knew a rough scale of what I should make it in so it's at least close to being correct for the figures that would be on the table(done in inches if possible).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 07:02:57
Subject: Re:Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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You could do a crashed stormraven or thunderhawk or something. Or just go with the 5th ed starter box aquila lander.. with a bit of customizing you can make it into a solid centerpiece, like this one: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/482451.page
Once you want something bigger than that, you'd be looking at ships so big they won't fit on the table, inscale anyway. One approach would be taking the ship you want and shrinking it to size, then just building it as such, to those who know the scales it won't look right though. Another alternative is to just design your own ship, and make it fit the size you want it to be on the table.
Could have a peek at Forgeworld's flyers for inspiration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 12:47:19
Subject: Re:Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/17 12:48:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/17 17:41:40
Subject: Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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crashed ship ay? that depends entirely on the size of ship you are looking for. if you do a crashed grand cruiser, it's not so much a centerpiece as a theme. If you have a crashed thunderbolt or an arvus, then it's more like a doohickey on the table. A centerpiece? Why that would have to be a thunderhawk.... might be you'd have a decent time finding either tau or eldar vehicles on the cheap, and just throwing some conversions on them to make them look decently flyer-ish....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 00:49:16
Subject: Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Eeeh... I was hoping you guys wouldn't suggest bits for the terrain. But I suppose it was unavoidable. Anyway to clarify I was thinking of taking the concept of a space cruiser, something large and menacing like that and having it's crash site be the center piece or as was pointed out since it'd be huge the entire battle field. I just don't have any scale on which to go by for such a thing. Or since it'd be over sized any way should I just go hog wild with it and not worry about scale?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 01:20:32
Subject: Re:Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/18 01:23:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 01:52:52
Subject: Re:Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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This might be relevant to your interests:
WRECK OF THE IMPERIAL CUTTER DAUNTLESS
Also, ironhands.com is just an amazing terrain site and I like to pimp them at any opportunity.
(In the interests of candor: no, I don't know anyone connected with the site nor am I the Iron Hands guy. I wish I were that cool.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 03:59:25
Subject: Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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7DSins wrote:Anyway to clarify I was thinking of taking the concept of a space cruiser, something large and menacing like that and having it's crash site be the center piece or as was pointed out since it'd be huge the entire battle field. I just don't have any scale on which to go by for such a thing. Or since it'd be over sized any way should I just go hog wild with it and not worry about scale?
Seems to me that I answered your exact question already, but I guess I'll provide some numbers. If you want to approach it at "real" 28mm heroic scale, it's a matter of simple matemathics. To get actual ship dimensions, a simple google image search yields size charts, and then there's wikia pages and whatnot.
Statwise imperial cruisers are around 3km long, which if you assume that 3.5cm is 2 meters ingame, you'd have a roughly 50 meter long scale model to play on. Even a destroyer, at say 750 meters, would be roughly 13 meters long.
Scaling down anything like that, to what you can fit on a regular 72" table would look silly small. Hence the repeated suggestions to a) pick a regular flyer b) create your own or c) not bother with scale and just build whatever you like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 04:53:19
Subject: Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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You could also just build a section and assume the rest is off table or something. OR just a chunk of ship as if it had broken up on entry. that way you can scale it correctly and have it actually fit on your table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 05:55:14
Subject: Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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why not take a battleship, or an aircraft carrier, 40kify it, and take a hammer to it, then fix it some more? It's a bit of a waste of a model, i know, and can be pricy, unless you happen to know the friend of a friend who just happens to need to be getting rid of some of his tugs.
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15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;
To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.
It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 12:40:58
Subject: Re:Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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or just make up say, a system defense gun cutter, a non warp capable but large enough ship to be a centerpiece, a modern us navy gun cutter the cyclone class http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_class_patrol_ship is 55 meters long or in game terms 96.25 centemeters long, or almost one meter, that would be a hell of a center piece and about right for a system patrol craft in my mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/18 16:50:31
Subject: Terrain help: Crashed ship scale.
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Sneaky Kommando
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