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Does Shield of Sanguinius effect Allies of Convenience?

I would argue it does. Just wanted to see if anyone had any contrary reasoning.

Here is the actual wording with applicable parts highlighted:


Units in your army treat Allies of Convenience as enemy
units that cannot be charged, shot, targeted with psychic
powers or have templates or blast markers placed over them.
However, if a psychic power, scattering Blast weapon or other
ability that affects an area hits some of these Allies of Convenience,
they will be affected along with any friendly or enemy units.
This
means that, for example, Allies of Convenience units:

• Can't benefit from the Warlord Trait of an allied character.

• Cannot be joined by allied Independent Characters.

Are not counted as friendly units for the targeting of
psychic powers
.


______________________________________________

Wording for Shield:

This power is used at the start of the enemy Shooting phase.
The Librarian and any unit within 6" receive a 5+ cover save
until the end of the phase
.


______________________________________________

Summary:

Not only does Shield not target units. It doesn't even specify it effects only friendly units. Also, there is no contrary FAQ ruling.

Thoughts?

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/12/18 18:22:56


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Did the faq change it to any friendly models or friendly models from C: BA? If not, you appear to be correct.

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The power affects all units within 6, it doesn't matter what the allies rules say.

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So it affects enemy units as well?

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under this wording

Wording for Shield:

This power is used at the start of the enemy Shooting phase.
The Librarian and any unit within 6" receive a 5+ cover save
until the end of the phase.

Then yes it would effect enimes no Idea what good it would do them.
   
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It would help against explosions and scattering blasts.

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 Happyjew wrote:
Did the faq change it to any friendly models or friendly models from C: BA? If not, you appear to be correct.


The FAQ simply says shield works on vehicles. No other change.

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Remember that Shield is cast at the start of the enemy Shooting phase, and lasts until the end of the phase, so even if it can/could benefit enemy units, most of the time they aren't going to be helped by it (except possibly from their own scattering blast weapons).


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Like watching a guard player throw demo charges on your guys, of which half will normally hit his own guys. He will thank you for that cover save!

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 juraigamer wrote:
Like watching a guard player throw demo charges on your guys, of which half will normally hit his own guys. He will thank you for that cover save!

And I will thank him for scattering the demo charge on his dudes!
   
 
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