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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 18:20:38
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Does Shield of Sanguinius effect Allies of Convenience?
I would argue it does. Just wanted to see if anyone had any contrary reasoning.
Here is the actual wording with applicable parts highlighted:
Units in your army treat Allies of Convenience as enemy
units that cannot be charged, shot, targeted with psychic
powers or have templates or blast markers placed over them.
However, if a psychic power, scattering Blast weapon or other
ability that affects an area hits some of these Allies of Convenience,
they will be affected along with any friendly or enemy units. This
means that, for example, Allies of Convenience units:
• Can't benefit from the Warlord Trait of an allied character.
• Cannot be joined by allied Independent Characters.
• Are not counted as friendly units for the targeting of
psychic powers.
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Wording for Shield:
This power is used at the start of the enemy Shooting phase.
The Librarian and any unit within 6" receive a 5+ cover save
until the end of the phase.
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Summary:
Not only does Shield not target units. It doesn't even specify it effects only friendly units. Also, there is no contrary FAQ ruling.
Thoughts?
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/12/18 18:22:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 18:31:04
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Did the faq change it to any friendly models or friendly models from C: BA? If not, you appear to be correct.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 18:41:05
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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The power affects all units within 6, it doesn't matter what the allies rules say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 18:49:46
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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The Hive Mind
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So it affects enemy units as well?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 19:13:42
Subject: Re:Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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Been Around the Block
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under this wording
Wording for Shield:
This power is used at the start of the enemy Shooting phase.
The Librarian and any unit within 6" receive a 5+ cover save
until the end of the phase.
Then yes it would effect enimes no Idea what good it would do them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 19:32:50
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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The Hive Mind
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It would help against explosions and scattering blasts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/18 21:25:02
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Happyjew wrote:Did the faq change it to any friendly models or friendly models from C: BA? If not, you appear to be correct.
The FAQ simply says shield works on vehicles. No other change.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/19 05:36:16
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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Tilter at Windmills
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Remember that Shield is cast at the start of the enemy Shooting phase, and lasts until the end of the phase, so even if it can/could benefit enemy units, most of the time they aren't going to be helped by it (except possibly from their own scattering blast weapons).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/19 18:25:39
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Like watching a guard player throw demo charges on your guys, of which half will normally hit his own guys. He will thank you for that cover save!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/19 18:37:23
Subject: Shield of Sanguinius + Allies of Convenience
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juraigamer wrote:Like watching a guard player throw demo charges on your guys, of which half will normally hit his own guys. He will thank you for that cover save!
And I will thank him for scattering the demo charge on his dudes!
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