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Hello everybody,

Iám trying to make a strong list to play with against seasoned players i meet in the Games workshop. I tried this list against an aussault heavy Blood Angels list and it worked pretty good. But i feel it can work much better.

(I lost the match 5 - 0 mainly because i lost firstblood and slay the warlord. I lost my warlord after he turned into a spawn from the traits table and i blew up my own Defiler when activating Demonforge with one hullpoint. The game was great fun and weird things were happenning all over the table, like all Melta's missing on both sides. Dante saved like 8 plasma cannon wounds from the Obliteraters after deepstriking in one turn)

My main tactic is sticking Typhus with a blob of 20 zombies and use them as a rotting flesh shield for the rest of my army. When the zombies enter assault the zombie champion will challange while Typhus kills the rest. Defiler and Obliteraters stand in the back taking out hard targets and provide supporting fire power for the Plague marines. Plague marines will focus on taking the enemy objective. The second zombie squad will sit on an objective or act like a zombie shield/coversave or tieing up enemy units/speedbumbs.

The bikes are there to intimidate the enemy and make them use firepower on them to draw the enemies attention and try to attack a hard target and pretty much provide a saver ride for the plague marine rhino's.

Please help me with improving my armylist and all tips or critisism on my list or tactics are more then welcome.

H.Q:

Typhus: 230pts

Troops:

total 8x Plague Marines: total 253
2x Meltagun
1x Champion with Power Axe and Melta Bombs
Inside a Rhino Dirge caster

total 8x Plague Marines: total 263
2x Plasmagun
1x Champion with Power Fist
Inside a Rhino with Dirge caster

27x Plague Zombies: total 118

10 x Plague Zombies: total 50

Heavy Support:

3x Obliterator:total 228
Mark Of Nurgle
VOTLW

total 5x Havocs: total 195
MoN
4x autocannon
VOTLW

Fast Attack:

5 x Spawn total: 180
MoN

Total list points: 1499
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Thought i add some power axes to deny armor saves.

Anybody has some tips maybe?

I would suggest changing the 3 man bike unit for something else, 3 bikes isnt going to do alot or take alot to shoot down.

I would maybe drop the bikes, make 1 large zombie squad of 35 and then use the points from the bikes and zombies to get another Oblit unit. I would also suggest maybe Vets of the long war for oblits just so its harder for them to run away.

 Scottiebhoy wrote:
I would suggest changing the 3 man bike unit for something else, 3 bikes isnt going to do alot or take alot to shoot down.

I would maybe drop the bikes, make 1 large zombie squad of 35 and then use the points from the bikes and zombies to get another Oblit unit. I would also suggest maybe Vets of the long war for oblits just so its harder for them to run away.

35 more zombies? I would keep the bikes, they are fast and T6. At 1500 points that is very useful.

Not 35 more zombies, make one of the 20 squads a 35 and drop the other one.

They are fast and T6 but 3 is fail IMO, easy first blood, not enough fire power to do alot of damage and 3 arent great in combat. I used 5 and a lord and dropped them as they got shot off the table to easy.

5 Spawn might be better, 15 wounds move 12 ignoring terrain and arent easy to shift

I do like spawn

Personally i'd take out the bikes and make one big squad of zombies then take a helldrake those things are nasty.

Tnx for al the comments.

The reason i use 20 man zombie squads is because i feel it is more then enough. They just won't die that fast and they do what they are supposed to do.

The spawn i think is a great idea and is the first thing i will change on my list the sad thing is i don't own any spawn models atm, same goes for the helldrake. I have seen some helldrakes in action and they are really strong. (a bit to strong imo)

Will also add VOTLW on obliterators because you are right i don't want to see those run away.

would you be able to get 1 more oblit so you have 4 total?
That way you could have 2 groups of 2.

would you be able to get 1 more oblit so you have 4 total?
That way you could have 2 groups of 2.

I only own 3 Obliterators but i changed some things to up the fire support hope you like them.


I made some changes. I added 5x havocs with 4x autocannons to counter flyers. I removed the bikes and the Defiler and added 5x Spawn.

I changed the zombie squads to 1 big one of 27 to go with Typhus and a 10 man zombie squad to go in reserve and come on later to grab my objective.

added Dirge caster on the rhinos.

all comments are welcome.

Greetings Demic

List updated let me know how to improve it please

Needs heldrakes badly

I don't like heldrakes and i don't want to play them.

 Demic25 wrote:
I don't like heldrakes and i don't want to play them.

Good for you!! I think people should always play the units they want to. Too many times on here these threads devolve into why aren't you taking heldrakes. Most flyers are best against other flyers, the heldrake is a beast against ground units, but if you face someone else's flyers chances are you can weather the wounds. It certainly has its place in some lists and when I am playing competitively up at the game workshop store around here I use one for sure. But when playing for fun I skip it a lot. Sometimes it's fun to try and win a game with 1k sons, or KBs.

With the change from bikes to spawn I think it's a pretty solid list. Have fun with it!!

PS you are so close to fluffy, any thoughts of dropping to 7 PMs and upping the other group of cultists to 14?