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 Swastakowey wrote:
Nah its a real chapter called the Shadow Warriors.

Lo Wang wants his name back, because nobody steals the Wang.

@epronvost

I cant find the image on the net but open Adepta Sororitas book and see the first art (not cover) there, under schola progenium. That's the kind of face I'd like to see guardswomen having.

Also I havent mellowed down a LOT since my first post because I havent mellowed down a BIT. I still say the same things only in toned down posting style because the not toned down one wasnt saving me time but making me waste it explaining myself. The reason you think that is because I was misinterpreted and taken out of context and words were put into my mouth. You did that too finding bigotry where there wasnt any imo and you still do it because not only I never called you a little marxist that likes Joseph Stalin way of thinking but also I didnt call anyone that directly as I reffered to the general idea of fiction censorship for the sake of current social ideas. To qualify for the marxist you'd have to want diverity in 40k solely because you fight prejudice everywhere you go etc and it still shoulndt be taken literaly. The Joseph comment was against the 'gw has a racism/ sexism problem' crowd and against the very title of this thread suggesting that lack of racial diversity in fething ridiculous obscure space fantasy plastic toy soldiers game is somehow "a sensitive issue". I'd quote my initial post but it would only result in 3 random posters catching words and accusing me of racism/ mysogyny/ whatever and explaining myself knd of lost its magic the third time around. Not to mention I do it again just now heh.

I do find you a bit biased towards political corectness line of thinking though so we are even on bigot heh.

Plumbumbarum wrote:
I cant find the image on the net but open Adepta Sororitas book and see the first art (not cover) there, under schola progenium. That's the kind of face I'd like to see guardswomen having.

That one ?

I don't think it is. If that's the one, she's just a an older women in her 50's with a slight scowl of disgust. In my opinion, she's still unusually beautiful for a women of her age. Hell, in her twenties she was probably gorgeous enough to model. Her skin is perfect (despite the scars), her eyes almand shaped and peircing, her eye brows are even epilated. She's tall and fit. That's miles away from what was described earlier for ideal female/male guardsmen with rotten teeth, dirty look, savage expression. She's exactly like all other SoB (beautiful, slight scowl or stern expression, tall, fit, facial scars) in the book except she's 25 years older.

That one, then:

Certainly does look to me like some facial expression you could find on some imperial guard artwork. Though the Sisters' haircut kind of undermine it.

The face I cutted out seems similar to what we see guard images like this to me:

The one on the front has a terrible case of battlelipstick,though.

I don't know if it's just me, but the Sister of Battle in the last image yo just presented looks a lot like the Wicked Witch of the West. That's pretty ironic, in an effort to make a Sister look mean and scary, she turned out to look like the most famous villainess of the last century who happens to be a witch, the thing Sisters despise above all. I love the irony.

I think it's this one, but let the guy confirm if it's indeed what he would like to see for female guardsmen artwork (isn't there a few images of female guardsmen we could link to that style of artwork AKA more grimdark than nobledark)

Not really seeing the Wicked Witch of the West in that picture, since the most-iconic depiction of that character has her dressed in a Halloween costume.

If I was good in photoshoping, I would paint her skin green and add the pointy hat. The teeth, foward lower jaw, slightly crooked nose, small fierce eyes is very reminescent of the actress scowl in the 30's movie.

Now I almost want to replace my avatar of a very very old-school angry sororitas head with a new avatar of an angry sororitas head. Arrr, the cruel dilemma. Should I go for retro, or modern?

I dunno, she looks more like Sigourney Weaver in a bobcut to me, rather than TWWotW. Her expression makes her a bit rough looking (which is entirely expected, given the scenario), but I'm not getting the "omghideous" vibe off her at all.

Eh, do guardsmen have to look hideous?

Yeah,do the guardsmen from the iconic artwork I posted looked more hideous than she did? Not sold on that.

To me? Not at all. The guy on the left looks a bit like Ed O'Neil, but otherwise none of them look like particularly-ugly men. Sure, none of them are some beefcake Adonis, but they aren't intended to be.

Then she is perfectly fitting, I would say.

o.0

I don't think I ever intended to say that she wasn't.

Oh, I got it. Sorry, misunderstanding. It took that bolded bit out of context;

 Psienesis wrote:
I dunno, she looks more like Sigourney Weaver in a bobcut to me, rather than TWWotW. Her expression makes her a bit rough looking (which is entirely expected, given the scenario), but I'm not getting the "omghideous" vibe off her at all.

And now that I re-read the conversation, I actually get what TWWotW meant! Nice!

I would dare to say that 90% of GW (or FF) published art work for SoB is actually great and doesn't need that much improvement. They already are spot on.

PS: the Wicked Witch of the West isn't supposed to be that ugly. Shes supposed to be scary and mean. That Sister, while not really pretty, isn't ugly either. Overall, that's a good piece of artwork for a less «angelic» Sister of Battle.

@Hybrid Son of Oxayotl yes that's her. Perfect for an officer imo and obligatory minimum for guardswomen.

The other art shows what I mean as well when I say GW could pull off grimdark guardswomen.

I love that art btw.


@epronvost she obviously could use some dirt to the face and a few teeth taken out with a back of the gun heh but she's a good example of a vicious 40k bitch anyway. With that aproach there's a good chance that even 50/50 gals on the pic wouldnt kill the image (completly heh) as opposed to all guardswomen being Mira type, she was great but wouldnt work in multiples imo.


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 Psienesis wrote:
To me? Not at all. The guy on the left looks a bit like Ed O'Neil, but otherwise none of them look like particularly-ugly men. Sure, none of them are some beefcake Adonis, but they aren't intended to be.

It's not exactly about ugly or not but rather the vicious vibe surrounding them. In case of that sisters they could go for less fanatic more brutal but it's all good as long as it's bad heh.

@Plumbumbarum

Obviously I am all for more diversity when it comes to artwork (and models as much as possible) this of course includes wide range of faces and body types from butt ugly, dirty, injured guardsmen of both sex to drop dead gorgeous people. The Imperial Guard counts trillions of soldiers your bound to have a very healthy mix of pretty much anything under the label of humans and even a few who would normally not be considered has such (Ogryns and Ratlings for exemple), A return of the more dirty, grimdark artwork which was more common in 3rd and 4th eddition wouldn't be a bad thing.