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I have bee absent from fantasy battle for over eight years now and just sold my lizards, WOC and vampire counts armies away. After the new HE armybook i decided to start a hobby project from the new HE army and make a game of thrones themed Others army (the ice dudes from beyond the wall) and also the nights watch, that in this universe of my wicked head have been overrun with the others and their wights. I plan on making my paint scheme something really different to the usual HE light colors by making armor look rusted, mixing grey brown and black to the leather/cloth parts and painting the flesh pale blue/grey. The eyes and possible flame effects will be done with bright green to make them pop!

Now here is my problem. I love the High elf models, but even if i do this army, i want it to be a themed army, the others and the nights watch did not have any real cavalry, only masses of foot troops, loads of archers, some with flaming arrows etc. So i would like to hear what units would go well with my theme game of throne fluff wise and also make a strong list for friendly and semi competitive matches? Btw, i have decided to paint all birds crow black so great eagles etc are ok Also if you have some good ideas for some kitbashing, please feel free to share

And bases will be done with loads of rocky ground and tons of snow and ice ofc

Glade guard-Stand in archers
Spearmen with white lions could make good core spearmen or seaguard
reavers with capes as rangers

White Lions as builders
Shadow Warriors as rangers

Bolt throwers
Maidenguard with shadow warrior mix.

others

I have no clue

IMHO a true GOT inspired army would be much easier to do using brets or empire, really fits the fluff of Westerosi armies pretty well minus the cannons, pistoliers and steam tanks!
More specifically if your army theme is going to be white walkers with a shambling horde of wights, the closest rule set would be vampire counts. Just use models such as the wood elf highborn and maybe a few of the vampire models as your "white walker generals", and then a horde of zombies fits in pretty well as the "wights", cause that is basically what they are after all right?

But if your set on accomplishing this with high elves, I'd recommend using shadow warriors for your nights watch "wights". Paint their armor in a really subdued manner, (aka black undercoat with metallic drybrush, possibly adding some rust effect), and obviously paint their cloaks black. Swap the helmeted heads with some normal wood elf heads and paint them super pale, light blue eyes possibly with some OSL effects. They will come out looking pretty much like ranger's turned wight, could be very cool imho.
Normal HE archers can also fit this pretty well too. Paint their cloth and leather peices black and dirty brown, same effects for eyes and skin, and they can represent the more common aspects of the nights watch that have been turned.
As for cavalry, if i remember my reading correctly many of the ranger's were in fact mounted when horses were available. Using similar painting themes you could turn illyrian reavers or silver helms into reanimated wights, but again would recommend head swaps with unhelmeted heads to really show the "wight" effects.
And just because you really need more core infantry than just archers and shadow warriors, you could paint up some HE spearmen to represent some of the dead members of Stannis Baratheon's army when he came to the Wall's rescue against the wildlings. They would make a more appropriate fit to simple rank and file troops being reanimated into an undead army. Similarly, if you really want more knights in your list you could use this line of reasoning to say "hey some of Stannis' knights got killed at the wall, therefore i have a small unit of Dragon princes as reanimated knights", painted appropriately this could work out as well.

My only issue with the project as a whole is how to do the actual white walkers? Based on the descriptions in the book, and the visuals in the HBO series, the Others/White Walkers are pretty daemonic looking, and seem to be quite taller than an average human being. Maybe possibly look at converting some daemon models? Bloodletters with some cutting and GS work, painted all white, would actually fit pretty well I think, but you would need to be pretty talented to pull it off. Maybe use bloodletter body legs and arms, then find an appropriate head swap to make it more humanoid looking? Obviously the White walkers would fill your lord/hero slots, so use the rules for princes and lords or mages to fill these spots (although the HE magic doesn't really fit with the theme of the white walkers, would actually be way closer to Vampire Counts in my opinion).

If it were my project (which its not), I'd do the entire army up with the HE models painted appropriately, modified bloodletters as the white walkers, and then play the whole army using the rules for Vampire Counts, with Walkers being vampires, your reanimated dudes being zombies. I'd drop out the HE archers (since VC have no archers), put a second hand weapon on your shadow warriors and count them as ghouls, and then paint up some white lions or sword masters all "wight" looking to be counts as grave guard. Then, you could also have a "wight" reanimated giant from the Song of Ice and Fire universe, use an ogre model painted appropriately and use the rules for varghulf to have some Monstrous infantry punch.


The possiblities are out there, I look forward to seeing how this works out for you man, please keep us updated with pictures!!!!

Actually, after further thinking, scratch the bloodletter idea for the white walkers, i think the wood elf highborn model fits it better, as illustrated by these pictures! Concpet art for the white walker fits perfectly with the highborn model, just paint him white and evil looking and you are golden.

I intend on using the rules for high elves as i am not looking for matching ruleset, but instead matching look for my army. So HE rules it is. Thx for the lenghtly post, i got some really good ideas from it. I will propably do the following: use the WE lord/hero figures as the others, then kitbash together some gladeguard and bretonian ment-at-arms models to make nights watch archers and Stannis Baratheons men at arms( high elf spearmen), then use shadow warriors as nights watch rangers. Glade riders or ellyrian reavers as mounted rangers and make a strong unit of cavalry from empire knights who will be stannis baratheons lords and possibly stannis himself. As for a high elf mage i will try to find a suitable model to represent the red priestess. For some more elite infantry i am concidering the white lions as they have the nights watch builders feel to them. I will make a few "great ravens" from some great eagles and i was thinking of getting one frost fenix as it suits the icy others theme IMO. Now i was thinking of using bretonnian trebuchettes as bolt throwers? Here are my initial plans. More ideas are welcome.

OR... I could do a Daneyrus themed dragon/unsullied army from the free cities omg this gave me a ton of new ideas!

Now there's a thought , a "mother of dragons" army could EASILY be accomplished with the HE range of models. Obviously Dragons for dragon models, HE spearmen can easily be done up as unsullied (although maybe empire or bretonnian M@A would fit better), use a DE sorceress as Daenarys painted appropriately, illyrian reavers as the dothraki, HE prince/noble for Jorah Mormont and Barristan Selmy etc etc. The possibilities are endless

guidsgjg wrote:
Now there's a thought , a "mother of dragons" army could EASILY be accomplished with the HE range of models. Obviously Dragons for dragon models, HE spearmen can easily be done up as unsullied (although maybe empire or bretonnian M@A would fit better), use a DE sorceress as Daenarys painted appropriately, illyrian reavers as the dothraki, HE prince/noble for Jorah Mormont and Barristan Selmy etc etc. The possibilities are endless

i think this idea will be much more easilly acompished without too much trouble. Will need to work on the idea a bit more i was looking forward of doing some snow/cliff bases but could easilly do rocky sand bases with almost the same technique


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The DE sorceress on a dragon would make a great Daenerys with little conversion work( gonna use her as a lvl 4 mage). Also i like the pose of the dragon much better than the HE dragon that is flying horizontally.

I looked through the available empire lords and heroes to see if there was a suitable model to use as either Jorah Mormont, or Barristan Selmy, but i think i will just look through the HE characters and pick one with a helmet on, or convert one up.

As for the army configuration, I was thinking something like 20 archers to hide a low lvl mage (Danys handmaiden, a DE sorceress on foot) in as a mage bunker, then 35 seaguard/spearmen (unsullied) to be a somewhat solid block where a CC hero could be. Then two 5 man outrider units (ellyrian reavers) to harass the enemy flanks and hunt warmachines etc. An then 30-40 swordmasters (the sellswords) to be an elite fighting block. Also was thinking of adding 10 dragon knights that would be the bloodriders of the mother of dragons. Also was thinking of adding a few great eagles as I'm getting two IOB sets and could turn the hippogriffs from them into great eagles (They would be the two smaller dragons? or i could try to find two small dragons to stand in as great eagles? ).

How does this sound? I still don't have the army book and don't know how big of an army in points that would even be. I'm aiming in between 2000 and 2500pts as that is porpably the standard points range for most games.

What sort of armor look are you going for Jorah Mormont and Barristan Selmy, because you might want to look at the Bretonnian heroes on foot, as both have helmets and well, they're in armor.

 Bobthehero wrote:
What sort of armor look are you going for Jorah Mormont and Barristan Selmy, because you might want to look at the Bretonnian heroes on foot, as both have helmets and well, they're in armor.

i will propably go with the empire general plastic box so i get one mounted and one bsb model for jorah and barristan. Thbe foot bretonnians could work too.

Just found out GW has little dragons on sale in tje warhammer collectibles, so will need to grab three of those and proxy them instead of great eagles

Just saying, I like the idea of a vaguely Daenarys-themed HE army, but I'd be a bit bothered playing against "elves" that are represented by human models, especially a mix of elf and human ranges. I'd either do them all with elves or pick a human army.

Basically, I'd much rather play against "High Elves, inspired by Daenarys Targaryen's army" than "Daenarys Targaryen's army, cobbled together from GW minis." You can have "Daenarys" be a caledorian princess who has lost her lands, Barristan and Jorah are disgraced nobles from other realms of Ulthuan who have sworn alleigance to her, the Unsullied are druchii slave warriors she has won the support of, etc. Keep the feel but make them fit in the existing fluff instead of just being GoT humans built from warhammer parts.

the color purple wrote:
Just saying, I like the idea of a vaguely Daenarys-themed HE army, but I'd be a bit bothered playing against "elves" that are represented by human models, especially a mix of elf and human ranges. I'd either do them all with elves or pick a human army.

Basically, I'd much rather play against "High Elves, inspired by Daenarys Targaryen's army" than "Daenarys Targaryen's army, cobbled together from GW minis." You can have "Daenarys" be a caledorian princess who has lost her lands, Barristan and Jorah are disgraced nobles from other realms of Ulthuan who have sworn alleigance to her, the Unsullied are druchii slave warriors she has won the support of, etc. Keep the feel but make them fit in the existing fluff instead of just being GoT humans built from warhammer parts.

After some concideration i am leaning towards your idea of a game of thrones Daenerys inspired list of HE rather than trying to shuehorn a straight representation of the "mother of dragons" into WHFB world.

I was thinking of something like this for fluff: The high elves have cast princess Daenerys out from their realm, because they think of her dabling in the dark arts after she went through the phoenix gate without burning. The current phoenix king didn't like this and drowe Dany to exile, but Dany got two followers from the high elves (jorah and barristan) who brought their levies to back up Danys claim to the phoenix throne. Together they wander the deserts in search of more supporters to gather up enough forces to take back Danys claim to the throne.

Still need to work the dragons in there somehow. Possibly Dany was carrying the eggs and the phoenix gate heated them up. Also i was thinking that the reason Dany went throuh rhe gate was that that his husband was trying to go through, bit got birned and died and dany ran after him (adding Khal Drogo in there in the fluff ).

So how does this sound. The fluff still needs loads more work and suggestions are welcome

This does make me wonder just how much gak would be wrecked if Wulfrik the Wanderer and his band of Chaos Marauders somehow made it to Westeros.

While I do think that a ASoIF inspired army is a terrible idea, if you're gonna make a copy of Khal Drogo, write him down as a Kurgan or Ungol warlord.

Oh Wulfrik...all I think of when I hear his name is him dancing in his flying boat shouting "I'M ON A BOAT".

 Sigvatr wrote:
Oh Wulfrik...all I think of when I hear his name is him dancing in his flying boat shouting "I'M ON A BOAT".

The Seafang doesn't fly. In so many words; it basically functions like FTL travel in 40K, meaning it travels into the Warp and appears where Wulfrik wills it. It's also implied he hates the fething thing because in order to work it drinks his blood.

And he's actually awesome. Cry more. Read his book, he makes Gotrek look like a pansy. Daemons literally beg him for mercy, he takes out Merwrms in single-combat, curb-stomps Bull-Centaurs, cuts Yhetee's in half, and he punches giant gates off their hinges. Yes, we should all strive to be like Wulfrik.