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Made in nz
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My apologies if this is answered somewhere but I can't find the answer.

I'm sure I'm missing something here but would appreciate someone pointing out the error of my logic.

Can Eldar Jetbikes make their 2D6" Assault move as per BRB pg45, and still charge? This would effectively allow them to do the following in a single turn:
- move 6"
- shoot (assault weapons)
- "assault move" 2D6"
- charge 2D6"

I can't find anything to say that the Eldar Jetbike Assault Move is "Instead of" charging, nor can I find anything that prevents charging if the unit first makes a voluntary move in the Assault phase. I'm sure that this is not the case but I can't find where it is prevented.

Thanks in advance.

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Stephens City, VA

It's basically spelled out on pg 45.

"may move up to 2D6" in the Assault phase, even if they don't charge" PG 45 BGB

   
Made in nz
Fresh-Faced New User





Thanks for your response. I get it now.

Normally you can only move 2D6" in the assault phase if charging. Eldar Jetbikes can do so even when they don't charge. It is not an extra move in the assault phase as I was supposing, it is effectively the normal 2D6" assault phase charge move, just without a charge target.

Thanks. This was doing my head in.
   
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation



Perth, Western Australia

Also, Eldar Jetbikes (in fact all bikes) move 12" in the movement phase, not 6" as stated in your first post.
Edit: In addition, as bikes are relentless, you are not limited to assault weapons in the shooting phase. You can fire Rapid Fire and Heavy Weapons (if they have them) and still charge in the Assault phase.

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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest





Stevenage, UK

I believe, while very poorly worded for what seems like obvious intent, that RAW *DOES* allow you to do this. Nothing in the rule on page 45 says that an Eldar Jetbike unit can't assault if it performs this move. You would have to make sure you don't turbo-boost, and thanks to the Assault phase order you'd have to perform the initial move before declaring any charges.

However, on page 47 we have a wording for Jetpacks that *does* specifically stop the move and assault. Emphasis mine:
A Jet Pack unit that is not locked in combat or charging can move up to 2D6" in the Assault phase

Why are the two rules worded differently if they're trying to accomplish the same thing? (Not including the fact that Jet Packs can Thrust after running, that is.)

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Dimmamar

Eleihun (a few posts above) sums it up correctly. Normally you may move 2D6 in the assault phase if you declare a charge target and the distance rolled is sufficient to engage your models.
Eldar bikes may move the 2D6 even if they declare no target. They don't get 2x2D6, or 4D6. Just 2D6, like everyone else.

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Stevenage, UK

I think I see... it's the words "up to" that make it... making an assault move afterwards would be going over the 2D6 you're allowed. Thanks, that makes sense.

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