GW release schedule according to stickmonkey

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**Kroothawk**

stickmonkey on faeit212 wrote:Ive got the following codex/army/supplement schedule down right now, pretty much aligns with your recent post:

Oct: dark elves wfb
Farsight supplement hardcopy
White scars supplement digital
No mystery box(es)

Nov: tyranids 40k
Terrain set (more wall of martyrs compatible pieces)
Ultramarines supplement digital
Black legion supplement hard copy

Dec: hobbit (box set)
Bundles for fantasy and 40k
White scars hard copy
Hive fleet behemoth supplement digital

Jan: IG 40k
Alpha legion supplement 40k digital
Ultramarines supplement hard copy

Feb: Brettonians or Dwarves wfb
Hive fleet behemoth hard copy
Steel legion digital

Further out (no particular order, just stuff I've heard in the pipeline for 2014):
Hive fleet kraken supp
Raven guard supp
Csm/daemon supplements 4 Gods
Black Templar Supp
Biel tan supp
Catachan supp
Orks 40k
Saim hann supp
Speed freaks supp
Blood angels 40k
Fleshtearers supp
Space Wolves 40k
13th gc supp
WfB 9
Wood elves

**PredaKhaine**

I cannot wait for a Biel-Tan supplement.

**guru**

No mistery box.... :(

**Scrub**

Blood Angels, Imperial Guard AND the possibility of Brettonians?

Awesome!

I hope that Harry or Hastings can corroborate/debunk this soon, however.

**Malika2**

Alpha Legion supplement? Wow!!!! That will have some major spoilers for the coming Heresy books I guess

**orkybenji**

It seems a little far-fetched, but I suppose releases have been getting quicker and quicker. I hope it's true.

**I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly**

Isn't this the chap who just guesses, and throws things at the wall to see if they will stick? My first thought, looking at that list, is a mixture of things already rumoured (tryanids, dark elves) self-evident (hard copy of farsight dex, hobbit releases) and things which are fairly vague, likely, but deniable if they don't happen (ie supplements for every known 40k sub-faction).

**Vhalyar**

I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:
Isn't this the chap who just guesses, and throws things at the wall to see if they will stick? My first thought, looking at that list, is a mixture of things already rumoured (tryanids, dark elves) self-evident (hard copy of farsight dex, hobbit releases) and things which are fairly vague, likely, but deniable if they don't happen (ie supplements for every known 40k sub-faction).

He's a master of garbage, yes.

Stickmonkey - Total rumors: (115 TRUE) / (238 FALSE) / (41 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

**Zweischneid**

Well, Farsight Enclaves Hardcopy in October agrees with the rumours I've seen on this shady website.

I'm willing to bet this part at least might be true!

**Breotan**

So about 1/3 accuracy then?

**lord_blackfang**

So he copied what we already "know" and added some informed guesses. Classic stickmonkey.

I guess he has to post via Faeit because nobody else will take him seriously.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Breotan wrote:
So about 1/3 accuracy then?

Because he repeats what other people have said first, that TRUE value is much higher than it should be. Pretre's been pretty generous with granting trues as well.

**Col. Dash**

Wait, Ultramorons just got a codex last month, why do they get a suppliment too? Ugg I hate GW priorities.

**lord_blackfang**

Col. Dash wrote:
Wait, Ultramorons just got a codex last month, why do they get a suppliment too? Ugg I hate GW priorities.

By that logic, Iyanden also got two codexes in a row.

**xruslanx**

Col. Dash wrote:
Wait, Ultramorons just got a codex last month, why do they get a suppliment too? Ugg I hate GW priorities.

ultramarines didn't get a codex last month. There was a space marine codex with an ultramarine on the front, maybe you got confused.

Also, please don't insult peoples' hobby by refering to um as 'ultramorons'. Than ks.

**DarthOvious**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Col. Dash wrote:
Wait, Ultramorons just got a codex last month, why do they get a suppliment too? Ugg I hate GW priorities.

By that logic, Iyanden also got two codexes in a row.

I agree that was a Space Marine codex, however considering that half the characters in it are Ultramarines, I think they should be the last one out of the group to get their suppliment.

**pretre**

MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Breotan wrote:
So about 1/3 accuracy then?

Because he repeats what other people have said first, that TRUE value is much higher than it should be. Pretre's been pretty generous with granting trues as well.

I am the good one. Although if there is anything you think I should reconsider, you can bring it up in the tracker thread. I agree that he is rather calculating though in his 'adoption' of other people's rumors.

**Kroothawk**

lord_blackfang wrote:I guess he has to post via Faeit because nobody else will take him seriously.

Faeit212 posts anything resembling rumours, Warseer hunts down any rumour monger on sight.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:Because he repeats what other people have said first, that TRUE value is much higher than it should be.

That is not true. He was the first to get the Necron release date right, also several details of the Necron design, one year in advance.
His speculation on a "summer of flyers" became reality one year later than he thought.
His sources are from an early stage of production, therefore prone to changes in details and timescale.
Most of his misses are recent (change of source?), although I admit that his release schedule predictions are not his strong suit.

**Azreal13**

Col. Dash wrote:
Wait, Ultramorons just got a codex last month, why do they get a suppliment too? Ugg I hate GW priorities.

Not strictly true, as others have mentioned, but I do agree, being probably the most orthodox codex chapter and being the most represented in terms of SC, they surely have to be the least in need of any sort of supplement? One could easily expand any of the other original Legions beyond what is represented in the Codex ahead of UM.

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Kroothawk wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:I guess he has to post via Faeit because nobody else will take him seriously.

Faeit212 posts anything resembling rumours, Warseer hunts down any rumour monger on sight.

We should promote Dakka as a warm and fuzzy place for rumourmongers to hang out then!

**pretre**

azreal13 wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:I guess he has to post via Faeit because nobody else will take him seriously.

Faeit212 posts anything resembling rumours, Warseer hunts down any rumour monger on sight.

We should promote Dakka as a warm and fuzzy place for rumourmongers to hang out then!

We've been trying. Dakka isn't the most friendly place on earth either.

**gossipmeng**

I'm impressed by the number of supplements to be released - even more so since they are for armies that are not necessarily the most popular (looks like a supplement per month).

I'm glad to see hobbit only mentioned in Dec - sorry LotR fans, but I'd rather see effort put into things that actually sell.

One thing I'm really interested in seeing is the wood elves at the veryyyy end of the list (hopefully 2014 and not 2015). It would be convenient to finally get into fantasy with a brand new edition, army book, and updated models!

**Kirasu**

Can't say I'm "impressed" with all these supplements.. Feels like GW asked themselves "What items are the most cost effective to gouge our customers with"..

Books!

Yes, it's nice my armies get supplements but if the previous ones are any indication.. I'm paying a lot of money for fluff they may or may not butcher and some poorly thought out rules.

Maybe I'll be surprised and the quality will increase. In the meantime you're paying twice for each codex basically..

**Azreal13**

pretre wrote:
azreal13 wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:I guess he has to post via Faeit because nobody else will take him seriously.

Faeit212 posts anything resembling rumours, Warseer hunts down any rumour monger on sight.

We should promote Dakka as a warm and fuzzy place for rumourmongers to hang out then!

We've been trying. Dakka isn't the most friendly place on earth either.

How's about this then.

Anyone with an established reputation (we can use the rumour tracker for this, >60% accuracy and more than 25 shared, separate rumours maybe?) we give access to a moderated thread which is somewhat like the GW sticky, effectively a transmit only thread, and discussion is conducted elsewhere.

I can see an argument against this, as it isn't really in the manner of Dakka to be as controlling as some other sites, but if it means we can get people to come here with news first and without fear of being attacked or ridiculed (but with the option to participate in the discussion if they want, but also the ability to simply not see it if they prefer) that can only be good for the site, can't it?

**xruslanx**

Kirasu wrote:
Can't say I'm "impressed" with all these supplements.. Feels like GW asked themselves "What items are the most cost effective to gouge our customers with"..

Books!

Yes, it's nice my armies get supplements but if the previous ones are any indication.. I'm paying a lot of money for fluff they may or may not butcher and some poorly thought out rules.

Maybe I'll be surprised and the quality will increase. In the meantime you're paying twice for each codex basically..

suppliments exist as a labour lf love by the developers, gw never wanted to release them in the first place.

**pretre**

azreal13 wrote:
How's about this then.

Anyone with an established reputation (we can use the rumour tracker for this, >60% accuracy and more than 25 shared, separate rumours maybe?) we give access to a moderated thread which is somewhat like the GW sticky, effectively a transmit only thread, and discussion is conducted elsewhere.

I can see an argument against this, as it isn't really in the manner of Dakka to be as controlling as some other sites, but if it means we can get people to come here with news first and without fear of being attacked or ridiculed (but with the option to participate in the discussion if they want, but also the ability to simply not see it if they prefer) that can only be good for the site, can't it?

I think this is not a bad idea but I can see some problems. 1) It gives me a lot of power. 2) This is the kind of thing that you would need to get Yak to sign off on probably and I don't know that he wants to get into this kind of business. 3) It exposes Yak to liability for leaks depending on the type of 'rumor' 4) you have to convince the rumor monger that it is in their best interest to come here, even with their own thread.

Maybe something to bring up in Nuts and Bolts.

**Col. Dash**

Oh and calling UM Ultramorons is analogous to the US army calling the Marines "Jarheads" or paratroopers "dirt darts", clerks "chairborne rangers". Calling other branches or career fields derogatory names is a time honored tradition in likely every military in history and promotes unit pride and competitiveness.

Any of the other founding Legion chapters should have gotten the first suppliment before Ultramorons, since Codex Space Marine is Codex Ultramarine for all intents and purposes since the UM follow the codex to the letter. A suppliment of marines should have additional rules and units for chapters that are close but not exactly codex. I would go so far as to say most of the chapters presented in the codex should be out and lesser known chapters like the Black Dragons, Fire Hawks, Rainbow Warriors(snicker) and Marine Malevolent should have been the ones presented with a suppliment with their own chapter tactics.

**Azreal13**

pretre wrote:
azreal13 wrote:
How's about this then.

Anyone with an established reputation (we can use the rumour tracker for this, >60% accuracy and more than 25 shared, separate rumours maybe?) we give access to a moderated thread which is somewhat like the GW sticky, effectively a transmit only thread, and discussion is conducted elsewhere.

I can see an argument against this, as it isn't really in the manner of Dakka to be as controlling as some other sites, but if it means we can get people to come here with news first and without fear of being attacked or ridiculed (but with the option to participate in the discussion if they want, but also the ability to simply not see it if they prefer) that can only be good for the site, can't it?

I think this is not a bad idea but I can see some problems. 1) It gives me a lot of power. 2) This is the kind of thing that you would need to get Yak to sign off on probably and I don't know that he wants to get into this kind of business. 3) It exposes Yak to liability for leaks depending on the type of 'rumor' 4) you have to convince the rumor monger that it is in their best interest to come here, even with their own thread.

Maybe something to bring up in Nuts and Bolts.

1) Well, you know what great power comes with don't you?
2) Fair point
3) I can't see how Yak would be liable if the info is still being posted by users of a public forum? Sure, if something crosses some sort of line, there may be some sort of takedown notice, and that may be unwanted hassle, but I can't see it going further than that.
4) Yes, perhaps we need some sort of "cute and fluffy" delegate to send out into cyberspace and persuade them (not volunteering!)

I'll repost this in N+B as well, see what the feedback is.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Malika2 wrote:
Alpha Legion supplement? Wow!!!! That will have some major spoilers for the coming Heresy books I guess

Spoiler:

**brassangel**

Scrub wrote:Blood Angels, Imperial Guard AND the possibility of Brettonians?

Awesome!

I hope that Harry or Hastings can corroborate/debunk this soon, however.

Neither Harry nor Hastings really take much interest in that sort of thing anymore.

Kroothawk wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:I guess he has to post via Faeit because nobody else will take him seriously.

Faeit212 posts anything resembling rumours, Warseer hunts down any rumour monger on sight.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:Because he repeats what other people have said first, that TRUE value is much higher than it should be.

That is not true. He was the first to get the Necron release date right, also several details of the Necron design, one year in advance.
His speculation on a "summer of flyers" became reality one year later than he thought.
His sources are from an early stage of production, therefore prone to changes in details and timescale.
Most of his misses are recent (change of source?), although I admit that his release schedule predictions are not his strong suit.

Well said. Plus, I'm not sure how much of his predictions turn out to be "false" or "vague" so much as way ahead of schedule and thus in the wrong order.

I would wager he's nailed the next few months.

**Asherian Command**

Interesting

But... I don't play this game anyway. But I love the lore additions.