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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/20 19:10:41
Subject: Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I haven't played Sisters since 3rd ed when the list was in the Rulebook, so I gave them a go since the new dex was out.
This is something I cooked up on Friday night and have proxy tested this weekend:
Order of the Iron Lady
HQ
Canoness = 70.
Boltgun, Book of St. Lucius.
Celestian Command Squad = 115.
5 Heavy Bolters.
Priest = 40.
Plasma Gun.
Immolator = 60.
Twin Linked Heavy Bolters.
Troops
Sisters of Battle Squad = 85.
1 Superior, 4 Sisters.
1 Flamer, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Combi-Flamer.
Priest = 40.
Plasma Gun.
Immolator = 60.
Twin Linked Multi Melta.
Sisters of Battle Squad = 85.
1 Superior, 4 Sisters.
1 Flamer, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Combi-Flamer.
Priest = 40.
Plasma Gun.
Immolator = 60.
Twin Linked Multi Melta.
Sisters of Battle Squad = 85.
1 Superior, 4 Sisters.
1 Flamer, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Combi-Flamer.
Priest = 40.
Plasma Gun.
Immolator = 60.
Twin Linked Multi Melta.
Sisters of Battle Squad = 85.
1 Superior, 4 Sisters.
1 Flamer, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Combi-Flamer.
Priest = 40.
Plasma Gun.
Immolator = 60.
Twin Linked Multi Melta.
Fast Attack
Dominion Squad = 115.
1 Dominion Superior, 4 Dominion.
4 Melta Gun, 1 Combi-Melta.
Immolator = 60.
Twin Linked Multi Melta.
Dominion Squad = 115.
1 Dominion Superior, 4 Dominion.
4 Melta Gun, 1 Combi-Melta.
Immolator = 60.
Twin Linked Multi Melta.
Heavy Support
Exorcist = 125.
Exorcist = 125.
Exorcist = 125.
Comes in at 1750 on the nose.
Basic deployment is castle up the HQ and Exorcists to make an obscene firebase.
Then with the SSB and Dominion Squads - split them off equally into two groups and hit hard into the enemy flanks.
I'm 4-0 so far, vs Drakespam, Necrons, White Scars and Tau Riptide Spam.
This army is a hoot to play and it has an absolutely insane amount of firepower over a very small footprint per squad.
The Exorcists perform well vs Flyers, churning out 3d6 shots per turn for the three. Their kill count so far is two Drakes, three Nightscythe and two Stormtalon for Flyers, plus all three Riptides in the game vs Tau and an entire White Scar Command Squad plus Khan vs Marines. They seem to be point and click removal of troublesome units.
The Command Squad and TLHB Immolator have done surprisingly well at killing Fire Warriors in droves and making holes in where infantry should be from T1 onwards. A great little distraction unit.
Has anyone got any pointers on how to take out Eldar or any other PITA lists?
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/20 22:49:29
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Why all the Heavy Bolters on the Command Squad? I'd take the Condemnor BG's instead. Being able to flat out wipe out several enemy psykers with no save reroll or look out sir shenanigans or just do 4 perils on a Land Raider just to see the look on the Spess Mehreen player's face when it dies from girls with bolters seems just too darn good to pass up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/20 23:02:30
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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dadakkaest wrote:Why all the Heavy Bolters on the Command Squad? I'd take the Condemnor BG's instead. Being able to flat out wipe out potentially several enemy psykers or just do 4 perils on a Land Raider just to see the look on the Spess Mehreen player's face when it dies from girls with bolters seems just too good to pass up.
There isn't a single player in my Meta who uses Land Raiders and we only have two Daemons players - Mono Khorne and Mono Nurgle, so I'm not bothered about that sick Screamerstar.
I can see the Condemnor Boltgun getting a rules clarification and correction that it will only hurt a single Psyker per shot. It's also useless vs many of the armies I face.
The HB Command Squad are there to thin out Gaunt/Ork/Guard Blobs from turn one. The high rate of fire from the Squad and Immolator butchered the Tau player and it really helped vs the White Scars. It's the point and click removal that makes this squad effective.
Also... how can you cause Perils vs a Land Raider?
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/20 23:20:12
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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GK Land Raiders only. Psychic pilot. I guess it does depend a lot how the metagame is progressing in your neck of the woods. Here it's Dark Eldar with Eldar Allies, CSM, and Necrons I play against most. 2/3 of my regular gaming group would be kind of upset by perils of the warp spam on their precious psykers. Which makes me want to do it immediately... Though if GW does errata the CBG to save psykers from Sisters of Battle allies (LOL) that'll mean I have a lot of ebaying to do, because after waiting for my horde of sisters to get a decent update that makes them competitive for 10 years, I'm quite ready to take advantage of their price increases to sell my army at a profit and go play warmachine if they errata it away.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/20 23:26:15
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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dadakkaest wrote:Someone mentioned to me something about GK Land Raiders and Posessed vehicles. Still trying to get clarification myself.
I guess it does depend a lot how the metagame is progressing in your neck of the woods. Here it's Dark Eldar with Eldar Allies, CSM, and Necrons I play against most. 2/3 of my regular gaming group would be kind of upset by perils of the warp spam on their precious psykers. Though if GW does errata the CBG that'll mean I have a lot of ebaying to do, because after waiting for my sisters to get a decent update that makes them competitive for 10 years, I'm ready to go play warmachine if they errata it away.
Hey, if they do (and I seriously think they will), can I buy your stuff?
Here in my new Meta, we have:
Tau Riptide Spam.
Eldar Wraithwing.
Several other Eldar lists.
Drakespam - Too many of these, but I've still only lost 2 games to them with my other armies.
Random Necrons.
Two Daemons Players.
One full time AS player (I'm coming in now as an AS player, so that will be two).
A fair amount of MEQ.
It's a fairly good mix and I always get a good game.
EDIT: We have NO GK Players and only one IG and one Ork player.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/20 23:29:42
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm in Northern Virginia, there's a ton of powergamers here so I've seen about every spam list going now.
I'll let you know when the auctions go up lol. .99 no reserve sisters models for days.
I also feel bad for an Ork player in the middle of all those spam lists. He must be a terribly good sport.
Honestly I'm looking at the cost of another 5 Immolators and priest models to do spammolator like the list you're doing lmao.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/20 23:41:37
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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dadakkaest wrote:I'll let you know when the auctions go up lol. .99 no reserve sisters models for days. I also feel bad for an Ork player in the middle of all those spam lists. He must be a terribly good sport. I'm looking at the cost of another 5 Immolators and priest models to do spammolator like the list you're doing lmao. I could make you an offer you can't refuse lol. But please do let me know. The Ork player is a top guy. He wins a lot more than he should, but he is a real expert in Orks. He's been playing them since 2nd ed. His army is over 50,000 points with models going as far back as Rogue Trader. He will give my army a real run for it's money with the huge amount of Boyz he brings. It's well over 100. He just swamps the board and kills everything in it's path. I'm more bothered about the Priest models than Immolators. Looking for more than one pose for a PG Priest is tough going. I can get my 750 point list to get some games in and then get a unit plus Immolator and Priest every month. I'm using the Whirlwind as the Exorcist as I hate both the FW and GW representations for them. I'm still shocked by how much stuff you get in this army and how much brute force this army can muster. This is my 750 starting list: Canoness = 80. - Goes in the Dominion Squad. Combi Melta, Book of St. Lucius. Sisters of Battle Squad = 85. 1 Superior, 4 Sisters. 1 Flamer, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Combi-Flamer. Priest = 40. Plasma Gun. Immolator = 60. Twin Linked Multi Melta. Sisters of Battle Squad = 85. 1 Superior, 4 Sisters. 1 Flamer, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Combi-Flamer. Priest = 40. Plasma Gun. Immolator = 60. Twin Linked Multi Melta. Dominion Squad = 115. 1 Dominion Superior, 4 Dominion. 4 Melta Gun, 1 Combi-Melta. Immolator = 60. Twin Linked Multi Melta. Exorcist = 125.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 00:26:00
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I proxy the whirlwinds too. Think I'll pick up the forge world sisters kits to make them look a bit better though... Have you considered looking at older necromunda models? They've got some convincing priest proxies in there, especially with eviscerators.
I think I'm going to make a go of it with my sisters lol. Other than the 6 or so more immolators and priests, maybe a few more meltas and heavy bolters and I'm pretty much there.
My painting table after dusting off my 10 year old sisters model case from under a bunch of Christmas stuff in the basement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 11:35:34
Subject: Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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It's looking good.
I'd suggest giving a go of it.
It's a very rewarding army.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 13:36:56
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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dadakkaest wrote:GK Land Raiders only. Psychic pilot.
I guess it does depend a lot how the metagame is progressing in your neck of the woods. Here it's Dark Eldar with Eldar Allies, CSM, and Necrons I play against most. 2/3 of my regular gaming group would be kind of upset by perils of the warp spam on their precious psykers. Which makes me want to do it immediately... Though if GW does errata the CBG to save psykers from Sisters of Battle allies ( LOL) that'll mean I have a lot of ebaying to do, because after waiting for my horde of sisters to get a decent update that makes them competitive for 10 years, I'm quite ready to take advantage of their price increases to sell my army at a profit and go play warmachine if they errata it away.
Well the psy-shock part of the CBG is one use only, so you can hardly perils spam. Also Farseers just laugh it off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 14:55:23
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Tarrasq wrote:dadakkaest wrote:GK Land Raiders only. Psychic pilot.
I guess it does depend a lot how the metagame is progressing in your neck of the woods. Here it's Dark Eldar with Eldar Allies, CSM, and Necrons I play against most. 2/3 of my regular gaming group would be kind of upset by perils of the warp spam on their precious psykers. Which makes me want to do it immediately... Though if GW does errata the CBG to save psykers from Sisters of Battle allies ( LOL) that'll mean I have a lot of ebaying to do, because after waiting for my horde of sisters to get a decent update that makes them competitive for 10 years, I'm quite ready to take advantage of their price increases to sell my army at a profit and go play warmachine if they errata it away.
Well the psy-shock part of the CBG is one use only, so you can hardly perils spam. Also Farseers just laugh it off.
also they already have ruled that even though the pilots are psychic it doesn't mean they suffer from the same rules a psycher on foot would suffer from...very specifically the DE relic that removes psychers on a failed leadership test...im pretty sure the bolts get the same treatent...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 20:04:12
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tarrasq wrote:
Well the psy-shock part of the CBG is one use only, so you can hardly perils spam. Also Farseers just laugh it off.
Any model in a Sisters command squad can have one, and so can the canoness. So that's 6 of them. That's one HQ choice that will give an average of 3 perils of the warp. So yes, you can spam them. Farseers still have to roll the ghost helm Invulnerable "Save" and can't look out sir since there's no wound allocation step with PoTW. the whole Eldar army is much more fragile without fortune and I have zero reason not to do this to the eldar/dark eldar player I play against with his army list. If the dice gods favor his farseer eats dirt hard and I laugh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 20:45:22
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My question is do the heavy bolter spam HQ and plasma on the priests really add anything.
You already have a ton of flamers all over the place if you wanted to put a hurt on a blob squad first turn drop the bolter command squad and take another dominion squad with 5 flamers.
Also how about laud hailers on the dominion immolators as currently your rolling on ld 8 without a reroll to get ignore cover, being able to reroll seems worth it to me.
Otherwise I still wonder how you shot down so many nightscythes, seems like the nightscythes should have been able to shoot your exorcists before they became a huge problem. Not to say 7 twin linked MM and 3 exorcists can do AA, but I would think that the normal necron Barge/Scythe/Wraith Spam should give you a run for your money depending on who goes first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 21:03:46
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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hrmm so you claim to beat a Riptide Spam? news 1 Riptide is not spam lol! (jk)
My Farsight List has 4 Tides at 1850(3 Rips and 1 O'Vesa) and I have yet to lose a game Competitively
note I dont run this list for friendly games just because then its no fun, but I suggest you have that Tau Player run the 4 list i have and try to beat that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/21 22:19:34
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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tiber55 wrote:My question is do the heavy bolter spam HQ and plasma on the priests really add anything.
You already have a ton of flamers all over the place if you wanted to put a hurt on a blob squad first turn drop the bolter command squad and take another dominion squad with 5 flamers.
Also how about laud hailers on the dominion immolators as currently your rolling on ld 8 without a reroll to get ignore cover, being able to reroll seems worth it to me.
Otherwise I still wonder how you shot down so many nightscythes, seems like the nightscythes should have been able to shoot your exorcists before they became a huge problem. Not to say 7 twin linked MM and 3 exorcists can do AA, but I would think that the normal necron Barge/Scythe/Wraith Spam should give you a run for your money depending on who goes first.
The Heavy Bolter Spam really helps by getting a fair amount of DMG in early. It's like removing an entire unit of FW per turn. They are more for the horde type armies where they are going to put serious hurt on the Blobs.
Never thought about Laud Hailers... will try to fit them in for the Dominions.
The Nightscythes came in piecemeal from T2 onwards. I never saw more than one per turn. The lowest amount of shots from the Exorcists was 9 for all three and even with this I scored a couple of hits. Damaging the NS is not a problem, it's hitting them which is. With a STR 8 AP 1 hit, you are Penetrating on 4+ and rolling with a +2 on the table.
The game was far closer than I may be letting on. In the late game, the Necron player clawed back some kills on the BSSs and took out one Exorcist and immobilised the other. I did lose 3 Immolators to those pesky Barges.
It was a minor victory, but a victory nonetheless. Automatically Appended Next Post: Commissar41.0 wrote:hrmm so you claim to beat a Riptide Spam? news 1 Riptide is not spam lol! (jk)
My Farsight List has 4 Tides at 1850(3 Rips and 1 O'Vesa) and I have yet to lose a game Competitively
note I dont run this list for friendly games just because then its no fun, but I suggest you have that Tau Player run the 4 list i have and try to beat that
Our local Tau player does own 4 Riptide, but only ever fields 3 as he can never get a game when using 4.
The trick to killing three is to just bombard them with as much AP1 and AP2 as possible.
The Exorcists again killed one on T1 and severely damaged the other two on T2. The Tau player lost the other two on T3.
It's really not difficult to destroy Riptide with AS. So much AP1 weaponry.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 14:28:48
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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The trick to killing three is to just bombard them with as much AP1 and AP2 as possible.
The Exorcists again killed one on T1 and severely damaged the other two on T2. The Tau player lost the other two on T3.
It's really not difficult to destroy Riptide with AS. So much AP1 weaponry.
Sounds like just poor luck on the Tau player's part in rolling invulnerable or cover saves. Stim injectors would mitigate this further.
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I play:
40K: Daemons, Tau
AoS: Blades of Khorne, Disciples of Tzeentch
Warmachine: Convergence of Cyriss
Infinity: Haqqislam, Tohaa
Malifaux: Bayou
Star Wars Legion: Republic & Separatists
MESBG: Far Harad, Misty Mountains |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/04 02:50:56
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I had a Rip taken out the other day on a charge from a Librarian biker.
with a Force Maul.
I play Tau, and as a Tau player, I can attest to the fact that a concentrated turn of shooting from an army with guns in it can kill a Riptide. I love them, but they're really no harder to kill than a Tyranifex, and goodness knows I've killed a bunch of those.
Also with guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/05 22:22:39
Subject: Re:Adepta Sororitas Armoured Column - 1750, hopefully competitive.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Killing a Riptide fairly easily as sisters can also be accomplished by tank shocking them with an outflanking scout immolator and watching them run off the board when they fail leadership.
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