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2014/04/15 17:41:58
Subject: IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Dallas, Texas
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Outdated; check further on down for an updated entry.
Greetings, Dakkanauts. It's that time again -- the 38th AM list this past day. Got my Codex in today and had to put together a couple of lists for semi-competitive play. Here we go!
1000 Points
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HQ: Company Command Squad
-Vox
-Regimental Standard
-Two Veterans w/ Sniper Rifles
-Bolt pistol on Commander
=85=
Primaris Psyker
Commissar
-=160=-
Troops: Infantry Platoon
Platoon Command Squad
-Vox
-Lascannon
-One Sniper Rifle
=57=
Infantry Squad
-Lascannon
-Sniper Rifle
=62=
[Combined Squad]
Infantry Squad
-Vox
-Lascannon
-Sniper Rifle
=67=
Infantry Squad
-Lascannon
-Sniper Rifle
=62=
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Conscripts
-Forty Models
=120=
-=368=-
Troops: Veterans
-Three Plasma Guns
-Grenadiers
-=120=-
Heavy Support: Leman Russ squadron
-Leman Russ Exterminator w/ Heavy Bolter hull & Sponsons, Spotlight
=151=
Heavy Support: Leman Russ squadron
-Leman Russ Exterminator w/ Heavy Bolter hull & Sponsons, Spotlight
=151=
Fortifications: Aegis Defence Line
=50=
-=1000=-
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1500 Points
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HQ: Leman Russ Squadron
Leman Russ Vanquisher w/ Pask: Hull Lascannon, Relic Plating
Leman Russ Vanquisher: Hull Lascannon, Relic Plating
=366=
HQ: Company Command Squad
-Vox
-Regimental Standard
-Two Veterans w/ Sniper Rifles
-Bolt pistol on Commander
=85=
Primaris Psyker
Primaris Psyker
Commissar
-=576=-
Troops: Infantry Platoon
Platoon Command Squad
-Vox
-Lascannon
-One Sniper Rifle
=57=
[Combined Squad]
Special Weapons Squad
-Three Sniper Rifles
=36=
Infantry Squad
-Lascannon
-Sniper Rifle
=62=
[Combined Squad]
[Combined Squad]
Infantry Squad
-Vox
-Lascannon
-Sniper Rifle
=67=
Infantry Squad
-Lascannon
-Sniper Rifle
=62=
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Conscripts
-Forty Models
=120=
-=402=-
Troops: Veterans
-Three Plasma Guns
-Grenadiers
-=120=-
Heavy Support: Leman Russ squadron
-Leman Russ Exterminator w/ Heavy Bolter hull & Sponsons, Spotlight
=151=
Heavy Support: Leman Russ squadron
-Leman Russ Exterminator w/ Heavy Bolter hull & Sponsons, Spotlight
=151=
Fortifications: Aegis Defence Line
Quadgun
=100=
-=1500=-
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I suppose my strategy in the first list would to be to bunker up behind cover, attach the Primaris to one of my blobs as I push the Veterans and Conscripts + Commissar down the field. The second list would be the same except for that I have Pask and another Psyker for Prescience rerolls on whatever I need. the Senior Officer (or maybe one of his veteran) will man the Quadgun for AA defence. The Exterminators will pulp heavy infantry as well as light armor/transports. The snipers will ensure pinning tests.
I can't shake that feeling that I need a Vendetta or a trio of lascannon Sentinels, but I think I'll be okay at these point brackets. I threw the idea of mechanized infantry because of the sheer costs of it. Regardless, thanks for reviewing my list! I'll take any fixes, changes or criticisms you can throw at me -- I haven't played a game of 40K in five or so years so I'm rusty.
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2014/04/17 07:16:07
When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
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And wave your hands and shout. |
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2014/04/16 17:40:55
Subject: Re:IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Dallas, Texas
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Bumping for justice! I don't want to fall through the cracks.
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When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
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And wave your hands and shout. |
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2014/04/16 17:40:59
Subject: Re:IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Have you considered taking Ratlings?
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2014/04/16 17:43:06
Subject: Re:IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Dallas, Texas
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I don't know what I'd do with them, really. Can I combine them into a squad with the IFs? I'm afraid they'll get picked off real easy.
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When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
And wave your hands and shout. |
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2014/04/16 18:00:18
Subject: Re:IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Im not sure if its changed but Im certain that the PCS and the infantry squads cant combine the only squads that can combine are the Infantry squads. Also Im certain the spot light comes stock on the leman russes so you might want to go back to your codex to verify.
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2014/04/16 18:28:56
Subject: IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Dallas, Texas
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You're correct on the PCS part, they don't have Combined Squad. Nice catch! Though you have to buy equipment for the LR, be it Smoke Launchers, Searchlights, etc. At least they got cheaper.
I'll adjust the list according, thanks Tankboy.
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When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
And wave your hands and shout. |
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2014/04/16 22:37:42
Subject: IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Command squads are a bit meh unless you're loading them into Vendettas or other transports. Remember having them with Pask stops him from being warlord thus removing a big chunk of the reason to take him (PE). Why relic plating on both tanks? You only need it on one to get the benefit.
Vanquisher on a Bs3 guy isn't great. PE helps this so if you dropped the CCS it would make more sense (Executioners work even better with him).
Why a commissar? A Priest is the same points for Fearless which is better. Unless you want the Ld bump for orders?
Remember only the infantry can combine not the special weapons squads so perhaps ratlings would be better if you just want 3 snipers?
It's only 2 points but why buy extra search lights for the Russes as they come with them standard. They also come with smoke launchers standard.
Heavy Support is the power house of this codex not taking any Wyverns or at least a Deathstrike seems a waste.
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2014/04/17 05:29:32
Subject: IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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The Airman wrote:You're correct on the PCS part, they don't have Combined Squad. Nice catch! Though you have to buy equipment for the LR, be it Smoke Launchers, Searchlights, etc. At least they got cheaper.
I'll adjust the list according, thanks Tankboy.
Go look under the heavy support section and then look under Leman russes. The look under war gear for the russes. They come stock with smoke launchers and searchlights. you do not pay points for them if they already come with the model or unit. Now look at the taurox or the hellhounds they do not have searchlights or smoke launchers in their war gear meaning they have to buy them lol. Not trying to sound rude but its pretty clear lol.
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2014/04/17 07:12:35
Subject: IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Dallas, Texas
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tankboy145 wrote:Go look under the heavy support section and then look under Leman russes. The look under war gear for the russes. They come stock with smoke launchers and searchlights. you do not pay points for them if they already come with the model or unit. Now look at the taurox or the hellhounds they do not have searchlights or smoke launchers in their war gear meaning they have to buy them lol. Not trying to sound rude but its pretty clear lol. Sorry, bud, you're right. I must've glossed over the Wargear entries because the majority of what I saw were Leman Russ variant cannons. FlingitNow wrote:Command squads are a bit meh unless you're loading them into Vendettas or other transports. Remember having them with Pask stops him from being warlord thus removing a big chunk of the reason to take him ( PE). Why relic plating on both tanks? You only need it on one to get the benefit. Vanquisher on a Bs3 guy isn't great. PE helps this so if you dropped the CCS it would make more sense (Executioners work even better with him). Why a commissar? A Priest is the same points for Fearless which is better. Unless you want the Ld bump for orders? Remember only the infantry can combine not the special weapons squads so perhaps ratlings would be better if you just want 3 snipers? It's only 2 points but why buy extra search lights for the Russes as they come with them standard. They also come with smoke launchers standard. Heavy Support is the power house of this codex not taking any Wyverns or at least a Deathstrike seems a waste. Thanks for your response, Fling. I'll take your advice as you're fall more experienced than I am, but I do have a question: As for the CCS, I really just wanted it for the SO buffs incase of FMC or flyer spam. Are they really worth the points or is an LR Executioner just a straight up upgrade over these guys? Also, swapping the Commissar for a Priest. Apparently I also derped with the infantry squad costs -- I was charging Lascannons for the same price as Autocannons. Heh. Next time I should take some more time before jumping right in and crafting a list after I get the book! Here are the updated lists with your suggestions: 1000 Points ======================== HQ: Leman Russ Squadron Leman Russ Vanquisher w/ Pask: Hull Lascannon, Multi Melta Sponsons, Relic plating Leman Russ Executioner: Hull Lascannon, Plasma Cannon Sponsons =433= Primaris Psyker Priest -=508=- Troops: Infantry Platoon Platoon Command Squad -Vox -Two Snipers -Krak grenades on Commander =40= Infantry Squad -Vox -Lascannon -Sniper Rifle =77= Infantry Squad -Vox -Lascannon -Sniper Rifle =77= Conscripts -Twenty-one Models =63= -=257=- Troops: Veterans -Three Plasma Guns -Grenadiers -=120=- Heavy Support: Wyvern Battery -Wyvern w/ hull Heavy Bolter =65= Fortifications: Aegis Defence Line =50= -=1000=- ======================== 1500 Points ======================== HQ: Leman Russ Squadron Leman Russ Vanquisher w/ Pask: Hull Lascannon, MultiMelta Sponsons, Relic Plating Leman Russ Executioner: Hull Lascannon, Plasma Cannon Sponsons =433= Primaris Psyker Primaris Psyker Priest -=558=- Troops: Infantry Platoon Platoon Command Squad -Vox -Lascannon -One Sniper Rifle -Krak grenades on Commander =58= Infantry Squad -Vox -Lascannon -Sniper Rifle -Krak grenades on Sergeant =78= Infantry Squad -Vox -Lascannon -Sniper Rifle -Krak grenades on Sergeant =78= Infantry Squad -Vox -Lascannon -Sniper Rifle -Krak grenades on Sergeant =78= Conscripts -Thirty Models =90= -=382=- Troops: Veterans -Three Plasma Guns -Grenadiers -=120=- Heavy Supprt: Wyvern Battery -Wyvern w/ Heavy Bolter hull -Wyvern w/ Heavy Bolter hull =130= Heavy Support: Leman Russ squadron -Leman Russ Exterminator w/ Heavy Bolter hull =130= Heavy Support: Leman Russ squadron -Leman Russ Exterminator w/ Heavy Bolter hull =130= Fortifications: Aegis Defence Line =50= -=1500=- ==============
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/17 07:14:39
When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
And wave your hands and shout. |
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2014/04/17 09:18:12
Subject: IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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The SO orders aren't great against FMCs. Prescience does far more than rerolls to wound.
Both lists look pretty solid now. Id run with them for a few games and see what you learn.
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2014/04/17 10:03:40
Subject: IG/AM 1000/1500 Lists
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Dallas, Texas
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Awesome, and thanks a bunch, Fling. I'll definitely be testing these builds out int he coming months.
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When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
And wave your hands and shout. |
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