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I'm in an escalation league, and next month we're bumping up to 1000pts. I have my list idea, and would like any advice on it, and how I can expand on it for the next tier 1500pts.

Only rules so far is that you can't use special characters, and (under 1500pts) you can't use Lord level characters. Heroes are your general. Note, I already have the models listed below, and the IoB set.

Original list

Alright, so this is looking like it's going to be my 1000pt list. Now, to figure out how can I improve on it for my 1500pt game.

999pts

Mage lvl2, w/Talisman of Preservation

15 x archer w/Music

5x Reavers w/Music, Bows, & Spears

15x Phoenix Guard w/Music & Standard

2x 6 Sword Masters w/Music

1x 6 Sword Masters

EC Bolt Thrower

Not a bad start.

I wouldn't change too much, but consider the following;

- remove light armour from the archers.
- the reavers absolutely need a musician for swift reforms and rallying.
- I'm sure you've payed for it and just not included it on the list because lazy, but the SMs and PG need a standard in other to take magic banners...
- it's up to you but I'd consider running the swordmasters as small hit squads against particular armies. Two units of 7 with just musicians are really cheap but are amazing chaff cleaners or flank supports. Otherwise try and bump the unit to 18 and go 6x3.
- any left over points would be best spent bolstering the PG

Any idea who your most regular opponents would be?

the reavers absolutely need a musician for swift reforms and rallying.

I thought Fast Calvary could reform and shoot, but the rallying would indeed help for when they need to run.

After taking your advice my army looks like this:

Mage lvl2, w/Talisman of Preservation

15 x archer w/Music

5x Reavers w/Music, Bows, & Spears

15x Phoenix Guard w/Music & Standard

2x 6 Sword Masters w/Music

1x 6 Sword Masters

EC Bolt Thrower

Had to drop the magic standard from the PG, and a musician from one of the Sword Masters to stay in the point total for Special units. I do like the idea of a bunch of small units roaming, than a single target.

Any idea who your most regular opponents would be?

So far I've played (and beaten) Empire, and Vampire Counts. There's also Skaven, High elves (heard he was focusing on Seaguard), Dwarves, lizardmen, and Tomb Kings.

I can't seem to decide which way to go with my army to get too 1500pts, let alone the 2000pt end goal. I'd like to include a prince, phoenix, some more cavalry, and possibly a dragon. But all I can come up with is a vague idea, nothing solid.

The idea so far; have my combat prince in a group of SMs or possibly with silver helm or dragon princes. Have my mage with Phoenix guard or spearmen, or on horse back. Have the back line with archer/sisters/other ranged unit/artillery.

As I said, vague. I'd appreciate any help in organizing these ideas into a workable list. (As stated above, no special characters)