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Was being pie plated to death recently by a friends Tau list with the standard issue 3 riptides. I decided I wanted to really upset his day, So I've done some juggling and I've managed to squeeze an Imperial Knight in. I wanted to know peoples thoughts? Especially considering this will be the only model that starts on the board...

Here it is...

1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster

Total Roster Cost: 1500

HQ: Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 pts, Warlord)
1 Vulkan He'stan

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 220 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Combi-Grav x2 + Grav-gun x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs + Combi-Grav
1 Drop Pod

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 180 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Heavy Flamer x2
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs
1 Drop Pod

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 190 pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad + Combi-Melta x1 + Meltagun x1
1 Veteran Sergeant + Melta Bombs + Combi-Meltagun
1 Drop Pod

Troops: Tactical Squad (6#, 135 pts)
4 Tactical Squad + Meltagun
1 Veteran Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1 + Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant
1 Drop Pod

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 215 pts)
9 Tactical Squad + Meltagun + Multi-melta
1 Veteran Sergeant + Combi-Meltagun x1 + Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant
1 Drop Pod

Knight Errant (1#, 370 pts)
1 Knight Errant

OK people, I need some help. I don't think this is the most effective way of squeezing him in, but I cant think of any other way...

Or you could not take bs. What do you want us to tell you?

We don't know your old list, we don't know what else you wanna squeeze in there. How can we help?

My old list had another tac squad in a pod and another sternguard squad in a pod. I want to know peoples thoughts on this list?

Grav stern just not feeling it since you are not relentless.

What happens if you go second all they can shoot is knight errant, not likely to stand up to all you opponents attention. Knights supported by drop pod list would work in 1850+, but a knight supporting a drop pod list not likely to work.

Grav stern is no different to grav command squad. And 5 of them can still throw out ten grav shots. Enough to upset a riptide. But I gain some special ammo shots too.

I know he'll take the brunt. I'm hoping I can place him behind some kind of terrain. Failing that I may deploy some of the tactical Marines to try and take the heat off.

I just want to make one work at this points level in this kinda list. If you have a better way then please share.

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
Grav stern is no different to grav command squad. And 5 of them can still throw out ten grav shots. Enough to upset a riptide. But I gain some special ammo shots too.

I know he'll take the brunt. I'm hoping I can place him behind some kind of terrain. Failing that I may deploy some of the tactical Marines to try and take the heat off.

I just want to make one work at this points level in this kinda list. If you have a better way then please share.

is this a list just for your friends tau or in general because if it's in general then the following points are brought up.

Grav stern is very different from a grav command squad.....

First most people run a grav command squad on bikes making them relentless and able to shoot 3 shots while moving....

You need some sore of anti air. I don't know if you are trying to go a comp build or not but what would be your answer to flying Hive Tyrants, Crones, Harpys? Or better yet what would your plan be against a flying daemon circus?

I am attempting a comp build. Marines have nothing I like that deals with fliers, so I d what I can to ignore them and hope I dont come across them. I know how good they can be. my primary list is four flying daemons.

Having fought knights now I can tell you they are tough, but they can be killed. Drop pod melta and long range dev fire can and will kill your errant in one turn for example. Providing you go first, or that you can hide the knight, you could do ok here but if you go 2nd, get a bad table with no LoS blocking terrain, etc then there is a very good chance you will lose the errant and the entire game before your pods even drop. If you are going to take knights, take 2 or you will need some kind of something to support him until he can start getting stuff done.

The thing is. At that cost it's nigh on impossible to fit two into a 1500 point list...

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
I am attempting a comp build. Marines have nothing I like that deals with fliers, so I d what I can to ignore them and hope I dont come across them. I know how good they can be. my primary list is four flying daemons.

Your not a fan of stalkers or their twins? Come on everyone like a boomerang armour bane missile launcher! No? What about a mobile quad gun?

 Arbiter wrote:

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
I am attempting a comp build. Marines have nothing I like that deals with fliers, so I d what I can to ignore them and hope I dont come across them. I know how good they can be. my primary list is four flying daemons.

Your not a fan of stalkers or their twins? Come on everyone like a boomerang armour bane missile launcher! No? What about a mobile quad gun?

I guess I'm just not a fan of anything that can only engage aircraft. They're a waste if your opponent doesn't have fliers.

I run a 1750 drop pod salamander list and If your worried about anti air then squeeze in a strom talon they work a treat.

I would drop the knight my self and two of the stern guard squads to make room for more inf and some dreads in pods.

It's so fun to read a post asking for help squeezing in a knight, and reading several comments saying to drop the knight.

"Hey, how do I make my space wolves better?"
"Sell them and buy eldar."

But they are right about one thing. Your knight is too lonely. Give him a turn 1 survival buddy.. something threatening. Drop a sternguard squad (as much as it hurts to say that) ..

Or maybe leave the tactical squads on the ground, use the pod savings to upgrade to 10 and give missile lanchers or lascannons? These are just ideas, bruvah