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**Theolla**

Wow, I've never heard of a ban on digital stuff before. That does seem pretty harsh, and bordering on the "zero tolerance" mindset that rarely makes sense.

I admit that as a sisters player, I do feel a little funny showing up without a hard copy book, especially since I don't own a tablet and my codex is just on my phone. I make sure to tell opponents that really, I'm not ignoring the game and texting, I'm just looking up a special rule. The one local tourney I played at didn't have a problem when I showed them my list of iBooks on my phone.

**Jimsolo**

It seems like several people are echoing the same sentiments about doctored codexes. Just to get some clarity, has anyone ever heard of an actual case of someone tampering with the digital edition of the rules?

**jreilly89**

curran12 wrote:
And I want to be equally clear that all of the reasons you gave are either fallacies, or are nonsensical. But hey, let's just do it one by one:

1. Care to show us some examples of faked ones? And exactly how many events have faked ones? And why is it that your events do not have the resources to check them?

2. Do your store owners also ban any models or supplies not purchased in their store as well for events?

3. Matter of personal responsibility, not a failing of the publication. After all, I can spill coffee on my codex and ruin it as well.

4. And the thousands-of-dollar value model collections?

5. And how is that any different from going on paper? Plus, this isn't even a matter of the publication, that's a matter of having an army list done electronically.

This.

**Furyou Miko**

Jimsolo wrote:
It seems like several people are echoing the same sentiments about doctored codexes. Just to get some clarity, has anyone ever heard of an actual case of someone tampering with the digital edition of the rules?

Nope.

**Malkov**

barko wrote:
I don't let people use them in big events for many reasons.

1) They are easy to alter or strait up fake.
2) The owner of the store we are playing at makes no money off of E-books so it is a big middle finger to him.
3) In long events like a RTT the batteries may run out so the rules specific to a model or unit can not be checked.
4) Liability: if you bring one and someone else breaks it or it gets dropped or any of a hundred things happen to it while your at an event I am running I or the store I am running the event at may be held liable for the damage.
5) army lists, lets face it you can make a ton of lists on a pad and break out the one that best suits the army you are facing. That is a LOT harder to pull off if your using a piece of paper that the TO can sign off on.

So while the one reason given here is easy to attack it is by far not the only reason to an these at events. The most important thing to remember is this. It's their event and as such they get to set whatever rules they want. If you think it is unfair or not a good rule, talk to them, and if your not satisfied run your own event and use whatever you want as rules.

But that's just my $0.02.

1) Valid point but as GW sell these it's kinda moot. Easy to spot a cheat, especially if you have a legit digi copy yourself. Should people have to bring their credit card report around to prove it's a legit copy? The only thing good about hardbacks is that it tales 5 secs less to find stat X.

2) What about people who bought their army online? At another store? Honestly any LGS should just be happy that people are showing up. Playing at a store increases the odds you'll spend money there.

3) Charge your phone before you go and know your own army. Problem solved.

4) Not a new thing. Your average army costs more than an electronic device. Having an army bag crushed/stolen sounds scarier to me than a broken tablet.

5) If your group somehow does not require a paper copy of your list to be turned in to a TO, make it a rule. This stops most accidental/intentional cheating at the source. Also, binders exist. Not too hard to bring 10 paper lists if you're that guy.