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I likes! and would also like to see an upgraded Thunderbolt pattern.

The Marine one still looks ridiculous, IMO.
The Ork flyer looks Orky. Really all I can say.

Exceedingly disappointed by the lack of a Guard flyer.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's Black Templars.

I figured. Still, probably going to get one of these. I am curious what slot it will take and how many points. I could sacrifice my Land Speeder Typhoon and Aegis Defense Line to fudge some points up for this thing. Would three flyers be overkill?


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 Kanluwen wrote:
The Marine one still looks ridiculous, IMO.
The Ork flyer looks Orky. Really all I can say.

Exceedingly disappointed by the lack of a Guard flyer.

Summer of Flyers. Hopefully everyone gets a new one. Like every army.

Holy gak a SM flyer I actually like! Dammit. That actually looks great compared to the Storm Talon. And armed to the teeth!

I would be so happy if they release a necron flyer with a covered cockpit.
The fact that is a huge "SHOOT ME HERE" spot on the current necron flyers, which aren't even open topped, is terrible model design.

It's slightly less ugly than most marine flyers but still hideously ugly. Is it maybe an add on sprue for the storm guppy?

I very much want a plastic Thunderbolt, but I'm scared GW will ruin it. It's currently a really nice looking aircraft and I'm sure GW can feth it up in a conversion to plastic.

Trying to figure out the Ork flyer.
A smasha gun, Kustum Mega Blaster parts, KFF parts?
And shell casing ejecting from where the supa shootas are usually mounted. But no shoota weapon? Or is it some kind of Kustum mega shoota ? Would have been kinda cool if they had mounted a Gorkanuts DeffStorm kannon...
Interesting. It just has less guns on it than I had expected, for a flying fortress. I am excited to see more of it and I hope I can get them in squadrons or add them to my Air armadas. That would be amazing. I'm sure a bunch of those weapons have "gets hot" special rule.

WTF!! What is that dumb gak? Is it supposed to be a drone? Where are the ammo hoppers for the assault canons?

 oni wrote:
WTF!! What is that dumb gak? Is it supposed to be a drone? Where are the ammo hoppers for the assault canons?

You know, now that you mention it, where are the assault cannons getting ammo from? Have Space Marines discovered cheat codes?
I can imagine it now - the pilot sees a large enemy formation of aircraft, pulls out a nintendo game pad, and starts inputting the Holy Litany of Saint Konami.

Huh, that Space Marine flyer is actually pretty cool. Might have to get one or two to accompany my Xiphon.

I actually like that Astartes flyer a lot. beats the hell out of the Storm Talon IMO. The Ork flyer is... well... Orky. Flying deathtrap with big gunz

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I actually like that Astartes flyer a lot. beats the hell out of the Storm Talon IMO. The Ork flyer is... well... Orky. Flying deathtrap with big gunz

The Stormhawk is a Stormtalon with extra gubbins.

It could be belt fed through the wing from storage in the main body.

I do definitely like the profile of these better than the Stormtalon. It looks more like an actual plane. I just noticed that the nosegun is actually a triple autocannon, not a Lascannon.

Hopefully next week two more armies get a flyer. Hopefully they don't do some dumb gak like release "flyers" for Sigmar.

It probably has ammo boxes attached to the assault cannons, or they've set it up so that there's an ammo box under the wings we're not seeing.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I actually like that Astartes flyer a lot. beats the hell out of the Storm Talon IMO. The Ork flyer is... well... Orky. Flying deathtrap with big gunz

The Stormhawk is a Stormtalon with extra gubbins.

Oh, I know. Still, if GW had gone for that look with the Storm Talon from the outset, I've no doubt it would've had a warmer reception.

Can someone rehost the images on Dakka? Imgur is work blocked :(

Honestly really like the marine flyer, reminds me of a beefed up land speeder tempest, and honestly what the stormtalon should of looked like in the first place.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I do definitely like the profile of these better than the Stormtalon. It looks more like an actual plane. I just noticed that the nosegun is actually a triple autocannon, not a Lascannon.

It actually looks like one of the mounts from the stalker. Not that there is a huge difference between that and a triple barreled autocannon, but the bit looks familiar.

If you did stick a TLLC under the nose, and replace the AsCs with more LCs, you would get a decent counts-as Xiphon.

I do like the way it looks, but rules are going to make/break this personally. My talon doesn’t get into many lists these days due to formations. Unless this guy is retroactively shoehorned into some, It’s going to be even harder to fit into a list. With the guns it’s packing, It’s not going to be cheep, and if it’s still based on the talon, it’s going to be fragile.

*sigh*

So much sadness and fail.


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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I actually like that Astartes flyer a lot. beats the hell out of the Storm Talon IMO. The Ork flyer is... well... Orky. Flying deathtrap with big gunz

In the manner that a puddle of puke might beat the hell out of a puddle of chunky diarrhea.

 Nevelon wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I do definitely like the profile of these better than the Stormtalon. It looks more like an actual plane. I just noticed that the nosegun is actually a triple autocannon, not a Lascannon.

It actually looks like one of the mounts from the stalker. Not that there is a huge difference between that and a triple barreled autocannon, but the bit looks familiar.

If you did stick a TLLC under the nose, and replace the AsCs with more LCs, you would get a decent counts-as Xiphon.

I do like the way it looks, but rules are going to make/break this personally. My talon doesn’t get into many lists these days due to formations. Unless this guy is retroactively shoehorned into some, It’s going to be even harder to fit into a list. With the guns it’s packing, It’s not going to be cheep, and if it’s still based on the talon, it’s going to be fragile.

To be fair, you are going to be at a pretty decent range to shoot things, the missiles and chin mounted autocannons will no doubt be 48" range. Unless your opponent has some decent AA, they'll be hard pressed to shoot it down.

I love me some Ork vehicles and especially the flyers but...... that Ork flyer feels a bit too clunky. Seems to me that if Orks are going to throw extra weapons on a bommer/dakkajet then there should be A LOT of dakka on that plane. One clunky Kustom Mega Kannon type gun does not fulfill the criteria for "moar dakka". Also GW needs to stop painting their Ork stuff fething yellow. Such an ugly color and a real bear to paint.

Now that Stormhawk looks freaking awesome, I just hope its an option for Space Wolves and/or Grey Knights (Dark Angels and Blood Angels too because lets be fair). Tired of everything being only for Codex: Spess Mahreens.

Edit: nevermind

shade1313 wrote:
*sigh*

So much sadness and fail.


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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I actually like that Astartes flyer a lot. beats the hell out of the Storm Talon IMO. The Ork flyer is... well... Orky. Flying deathtrap with big gunz

In the manner that a puddle of puke might beat the hell out of a puddle of chunky diarrhea.

Welcome to the ignore list. Enjoy your stay.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

I do like the way it looks, but rules are going to make/break this personally. My talon doesn’t get into many lists these days due to formations. Unless this guy is retroactively shoehorned into some, It’s going to be even harder to fit into a list. With the guns it’s packing, It’s not going to be cheep, and if it’s still based on the talon, it’s going to be fragile.

To be fair, you are going to be at a pretty decent range to shoot things, the missiles and chin mounted autocannons will no doubt be 48" range. Unless your opponent has some decent AA, they'll be hard pressed to shoot it down.

It’s always a little pre-emptive to start thinking about rules from just a picture, but I’ll start anyway.

It looks like it’s not going to have the hover trait. The wings look fixed, and it also looks like something new is covering the belly thrusters. And while it might look more graceful then the normal bricks marines take to the air in, I don’t see it getting vector dancer, or any other movement related rule.

The guns also look to all be fixed front. The chin gun might still be turreted. But at least 2/3rds of the firepower you are probably paying a pretty penny for are going to need to be pointed at your target.

So while you might be able to get the first volley off at stand-off range, you are either going to have to commit to a high-risk attack run at closer range, or take your 90 turn and fly off the table. And how much time to you want your expensive flyer lingering off the board?

My experience with my talon generally has it show up and spend 2 turns as a flyer, then switch to hover to stay on the table to get in another round of shooting. This guy is probably only going to get in two rounds. If it’s lucky, it might get in a third by flying off to ongoing reserves. Depending on it’s initial reserves roll and how long the game runs. Depending on it’s points, and other special rules, it might not be a very point efficient use of space in a list.

We’ll see when we get rules leaks.

Just watch as BA get the shaft again when they are not allowed access to it...

 Nevelon wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I do definitely like the profile of these better than the Stormtalon. It looks more like an actual plane. I just noticed that the nosegun is actually a triple autocannon, not a Lascannon.

It actually looks like one of the mounts from the stalker. Not that there is a huge difference between that and a triple barreled autocannon, but the bit looks familiar.

If you did stick a TLLC under the nose, and replace the AsCs with more LCs, you would get a decent counts-as Xiphon.

I do like the way it looks, but rules are going to make/break this personally. My talon doesn’t get into many lists these days due to formations. Unless this guy is retroactively shoehorned into some, It’s going to be even harder to fit into a list. With the guns it’s packing, It’s not going to be cheep, and if it’s still based on the talon, it’s going to be fragile.

Good point. It definitely looks like an Icarus Stormcannon. Perhaps it will add Interceptor to the Stormhawk, which would be neat but kinda worthless to a flyer since they come in late. I do expect this thing to push 200 points due to the number of weapons. At the very least it packs an Autocannon of some sort, the pod weapons of the Stormtalon, and a Twin-Linked Assault Cannon. Who knows what else it has. And if abilities get thrown in on top of that, it will be a pretty nice, if fragile, flyer. If it comes with a formation for running it and some Stormtalons or if it is available for Blood Angels, I am definitely in. I do have one unbuilt Stormtalon, if I could get the upgrade sprue separately, I might get myself two of these!

I wonder if the Ork flya is sporting a lifta-droppa



or Smasha



and for some wild, wild speculation perhaps it's even going to give orks some version of the terrain moving ability of the recent SM geomany power

shade1313 wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

shade1313 wrote:
*sigh*

So much sadness and fail.


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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I actually like that Astartes flyer a lot. beats the hell out of the Storm Talon IMO. The Ork flyer is... well... Orky. Flying deathtrap with big gunz

In the manner that a puddle of puke might beat the hell out of a puddle of chunky diarrhea.

Welcome to the ignore list. Enjoy your stay.

Enjoy your "safe space", away from that mean old "real world" where people have opinions that differ from yours.

Well, you were the one dismissing/ridiculing HIS opinion as not valid.

shade1313 wrote:

Enjoy your "safe space", away from that mean old "real world" where people have opinions that differ from yours.

Adult way of stating your opinion: "I don't like the aesthetics of this new flyer, it does not appeal to me"

That wasn't that hard, yes?

commander dante wrote:
Just watch as BA get the shaft again when they are not allowed access to it...

Without a doubt this is going to happen. BA will only get the Stormraven. I would love for them to get an interceptor version of the Stormraven. Take off all transport capacity and make it a gunboat. Unfortunately, that describes the Fire Raptor and C:SM get that one.