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I know some people like the classic stuff but... For the same price? How would you spend your $16?

I like the newer one that's looking at what he's pointing at much more than the cross-eyed constipated Mr. Frowneyface of the older model.

Some people like having the "classic" look. Or just so they have a complete collection.

My newer plastic GKs are better models than the older metal sculpt overall, but I really like the metal ones too.

I don't think it's fair to compare models that were released at so many different points of time (or rather published). Have a look at the old destroyers

 Sigvatr wrote:
I don't think it's fair to compare models that were released at so many different points of time (or rather published). Have a look at the old destroyers

Yes it is not fair to compare... Nor is it fair to price them the same And I will take a look at the old destroyers

I would never want the old one, but I totally understand someone wanting it from a collectors standpoint, which makes it kinda neat that they still sell the old one

From Dakkas own gallery, behold!

Glad they found use for the elderly killer robots...

Looks like a sci fi wheelchair with an angry old robot in it.

I don't think the metal Necrons have aged well, but then I didn't think they were that good to begin with.

Some of the other metals are, I think, unsurpassed though by their plastic/resin successors. I still prefer the 2e/3e IG to the plastic cadians/catachans by a long long way.

The old one is metal, isn't it? Which costs a fair bit more than resin, so It makes up for the price of its look with the price of the material its made of.

 ashcroft wrote:
I don't think the metal Necrons have aged well, but then I didn't think they were that good to begin with.

Some of the other metals are, I think, unsurpassed though by their plastic/resin successors. I still prefer the 2e/3e IG to the plastic cadians/catachans by a long long way.

Couldn't agree more really. Some sculpts are classic, and remain so to this day. I'm thinking of the Goffick Rokkers and the brilliant Mad Boyz from the 2e era. But the Necrons? Nah....

 Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:
The old one is metal, isn't it? Which costs a fair bit more than resin, so It makes up for the price of its look with the price of the material its made of.

Nope. Its still available in the online store as a finecast model.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Necron-Classic-Lord

Hm, I always assumed the new ones where still metal cast. In that case, heck if I know. GW seems to sell more on rules and less on models (Hence why its 100 something dollars for a knight. Not because the model looks awesome, but because its a powerful unit), and since these have the same rules, they get the same price.

 Ailaros wrote:
I like the newer one that's looking at what he's pointing at much more than the cross-eyed constipated Mr. Frowneyface of the older model.

I quoted you because that was awesome!

Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:GW seems to sell more on rules and less on models (Hence why its 100 something dollars for a knight. Not because the model looks awesome, but because its a powerful unit), and since these have the same rules, they get the same price.

Right.

Plus, don't forget that $16 isn't the price for either model, it's GW's opening bid for what it thinks the price should be at the moment. It's up to the people actually buying the models to determine the price. If GW charges $16 for the old necron lord model, and zero people buy it, then the price isn't $16, it's $0, or, rather, it's worthless.

 Ailaros wrote:

Hive Fleet Cerberus wrote:GW seems to sell more on rules and less on models (Hence why its 100 something dollars for a knight. Not because the model looks awesome, but because its a powerful unit), and since these have the same rules, they get the same price.

Right.

Plus, don't forget that $16 isn't the price for either model, it's GW's opening bid for what it thinks the price should be at the moment. It's up to the people actually buying the models to determine the price. If GW charges $16 for the old necron lord model, and zero people buy it, then the price isn't $16, it's $0, or, rather, it's worthless.

And if people buy it... It goes up to $20

They can't make the old one more than the new one because that would be ridiculous.

They can't make the old one cheaper because people would use it instead (and I bet GW prefer us to use the new models)

The only option left is to price them the same.

If I was a Necron collector I would want both but I would be on eBay looking for a metal cast of the old one (and the new one too if there ever were metal ones)

Slightly Off-Topic, but I've never seen one of those old-school Destroyers before... it's actually pretty awesome..

My necron army is nearly all made of the old metals, as it dates back to when they came out in White Dwarf for 2nd edition. I love them, even the 5-man squad of armchair destroyers, and swarms made of the metal scarabs grouped three to a 40mm base. For troops, only had the urge to get the new plastic wraiths, and the metal ones from 3rd edition suck.

Plus, isn't the old Necron Lord still metal? I would rather pay 15 dollars for an elderly metal sculpt than a modern Finecast one, any day of the week.

 cfoley wrote:
They can't make the old one more than the new one because that would be ridiculous.

They can't make the old one cheaper because people would use it instead (and I bet GW prefer us to use the new models)

The only option left is to price them the same.

If I was a Necron collector I would want both but I would be on eBay looking for a metal cast of the old one (and the new one too if there ever were metal ones)

If people are buying it GW will raise the price... That is just what they do

Part of the problem is that the old model has a much worse paint job than the newer one. I think the old model might actually look kind of cool with a less-garish coat of paint.

At least the old Necron Lord admitted right from the start that Necrons were Tomb Kings in Space.

And yes, an 'Eavy Metal paint job would make a slight difference, which I don't think the 2nd edition Necrons ever got.

Minus some of the over the top colours it might look better, bling necrons.

The old one has a frowny face and has tons of bling. Obviously the superior choice.

I prefer the older model. It has charm, meanwhile the other (I think it was realised around 2004, so it's hardly new) just looks stupid.

There seriously needs to be a 'both' or a 'neither' option.

I want both!

Which one is more colorful? Which one has more character? Which one is less generic? Which one has all that cool detail on the arms and legs, kindof making it look like a Terminator? I've never been too impressed with the Necron range, but that old model actually looks fairly awesome.

I'd prefer the old one. In my defense, I have odd taste and this is just my personal preference.


Well, the older one does have a silly-looking frown. I would probably not paint the frown like that (draws attention to it, makes the whole miniature look less attractive) and I might do a conversion of some sort. Maybe add a veil, replace the head with a skull, or put a Vox-caster thing in place of the frown. Or add something that looks like a funeral death-mask or a slavering jaw. I think if you do something to fix the goofy frown, the older model would look especially good compared to the new one if they had an equal-quality paintjob.

There was a generally accepted conversion for the old Necron Lord, where you used the head of the Culexis assassin (I think, the anti-psyker one with the giant mechanical eye). It's what I did to my Necron Lord- looks sustantially more awesome than the standard head.

I chose the older one:

The new one is cleaner and more precise, but I feel it is missing something. It just doesn't have the same level of charterer, or attention to detail as the older one. It's like the difference between analogue and digital, or organic and processed. The older one might not be as clean, but it's way more interesting.

Pics or it didn't happen.

MordorMiniatures wrote:

 cfoley wrote:
They can't make the old one more than the new one because that would be ridiculous.

They can't make the old one cheaper because people would use it instead (and I bet GW prefer us to use the new models)

The only option left is to price them the same.

If I was a Necron collector I would want both but I would be on eBay looking for a metal cast of the old one (and the new one too if there ever were metal ones)

If people are buying it GW will raise the price... That is just what they do

Yeah, they may raise the price but I bet they raise the price of both together.