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Hey guys,

I need some advice. I stopped playing 40k a year or two ago (20.5 credits senior year and Marine life) but am now wondering if I should get back into it. I havnt read much into 7th edition but what are your thoughts.

In 4,5, and 6th edition I played Chaos and Dark eldar and had a pretty fun time. But don't have those armies anymore. I have a small sisters army. I was wondering what your guys thoughts were. Should I sell the sisters army and walk away or get back into it. whats your thoughts on the new rules etc.

I have:

1 canoness
6 sisters squad leader dudes -5 plasma/chain sword, 1 bolter/power sword

12 melta sisters
31 battle sisters -bolters
4 heavy bolter sisters

3 immolator tanks
2 rhonos

2 penitent engines
3 exorcists

Id say give it a few months and try it out with some people. Most of the fun from 40k is the people you play with. If you have cool players, I think you will have fun.

On the flip side, unpainted SoB? Thats gonna sell like hotcakes in the condition they are in.

I advise trying it first, failing that reap the benefits of selling them.

I like the new rules. As long as you keep it clean and simple there is little to complain about. In my opinion.

Well, there is a relatively-new codex for the Sisters, Codex: Adepta Sororitas, to update them for the current rules of the game.

They're a solid mid-tier army of medium and close-range firepower. PEs basically suck in 90% of the scenarios they are likely to be in, but on the off-chance that they actually can get into melee with non-CC troops, they can wreck face... but outside of that limited application they are a waste of points.

Really depends on the kinds of armies you expect to play and what your local meta is like. If most of the people in your area play hardline tournament builds, then I'd say sell 'em and go do something else with your time. If the other players in your area like smaller-scale games, then I'd say keep 'em and keep playing.

I envy your army. I would play it

You could make a very solid army with that. For example, you could get two 10 Woman Battle Sister Squads with 2 Meltaguns, Veteran Sister Superiors with Plasma Pistols/Chainswords and Rhinos as Dedicated Transports, one 5 woman Dominion Squad with 4 Meltas, Veteran Dominion Superior with Plasma Pistol/Chainsword and a Twin-Linked Multimelta Immolator as a Transport, and 3 Excorsists. Only downside is a bare minimum Canoness that will be hiding out of LOS in your backline, but it makes a legal battle-forged army at 1000pts on the dot. You're missing out on flame-throwers, but a purchase of a couple of Heavy Flamer Sisters will easily slot in the Battle Sister Squads. You probably won't be winning any tournaments, but then neither will alot of other armies in the game. But with a ton of melta flying around, you should be giving any army that's relying on either high armour saves, high toughness values or vehicles real headaches.

The models you have left over can probably make another 4 Melta Dominon Squad and either another two 5 woman battle sister squads or a single 10 woman squad with associated transports. But if you're looking to expand to a higher point game, but you're almost definitely going to want pick up St Celestine with at least 5 Seraphim and likely some Ministorum Priests as well.

Otherwise if you sell them, I can easily see them selling well. It's a very solid army, with the only 'bad' models (in terms of gameplay effectiveness) being the Penitent Engine and maybe the Canoness.

Dont make haste desincion without even play some 7th ed games, make some list, read the new rules, read the new codex, give it a try with the things you have, dont buy more instead try to use what you have and if you like the games you played then keep it, if not theres a lot o f people out there ready to throw money to your face for that models

Just walk away. The game sucks and you're stuck with a neglected army. If you don't already have an awesome army that you really want to play (in which case you wouldn't be asking us if you should quit) you're not going to get anything out of 7th edition. Sell the army, buy armies for a few different games, and have a lot more fun.

Played some games of 7th yet Peregrine?

Did you even play any of 6th?

 azreal13 wrote:
Played some games of 7th yet Peregrine?

Did you even play any of 6th?

Yes, and yes. Some of them were even fun, but they were fun despite the bad rules, not because the game is good. If I didn't already have a huge amount of time and money invested in an army I love I wouldn't even consider playing 40k. And every time I take a break between games I wonder why I bother trying to play the game at all instead of just painting models for my display shelf.

 Peregrine wrote:
Just walk away. The game sucks and you're stuck with a neglected army. If you don't already have an awesome army that you really want to play (in which case you wouldn't be asking us if you should quit) you're not going to get anything out of 7th edition. Sell the army, buy armies for a few different games, and have a lot more fun.

One of the problems with a SoB army i the cost of entry. You have a solid core to build around, so don’t have that issue.

Stick with it. It’s a fun game despite the flaws in the rules. And let’s be honest, it’s always been that way.

Thanks a lot for the advice. I'll give it some time. I think maybe a few seraphim and st celestine could be a decent cheap addition and allow me to play some 1k-1200 ot games relatively easily.

Thoughts on models and options forward if I stay in the fight?

I also have an SOB army that's sitting on the shelf that I've collected since they first came out. GW doesn't like the army and won't do anything with it. It's been neglected for over a decade.
Also, there are much better games out there. For the money you could sell that army, you could buy into multiple games.

If you have a close group of like-minded friends, sure, you'll have fun with 40k. If not, SELL.

At first, I was just going to read and not respond. Then I thought about it, and because you put in the effort and have the balls to run an SOB army, I believe you deserve as many responses as possible.

First of all, I don't have an SOB army but my GF does. She has a 2500pt Footslogging SOB army (she wanted only metal models, and so the tanks were out). Her list looks something like this -
40 odd sisters, 30 repentia, 9 penitent engines, 2 dominion squads, seraphim squad, 5 priests and celestine. (AFAIK)

I've played her a couple times and I will say it was at least interesting. I will admit there were a couple moments of turkey shooting, but she didn't have a terrible winrate. Then again, I don't use competitive lists, I play fluffily. I can't attest really to SOB tactics etc. but I will admit I'm terrified of those Penitent Engines, she shields them behind her sisters and if they get close - they tear me apart.

In the end, it's up to you. You'd be playing the most unique army in the game, with some pretty awesome fluff. If you want competitiveness, then maybe look elsewhere.

Form your Dominion Squads first and foremost. Once thats done, move to the rest of the army. Because Dominion are just too awesome.

I personally take units of 10. One has four meltas. One has four flamers. One has two of each.

I have a LOT of fun with Sisters. I've won more tournaments with them than any other force. They are a good force.

as for 7E, its REALLY fun. I LOVE Maelstrom missions and I REALLY like the cleaned up rules. Is it perfect? No game on Earth is. But its totally worth playing.

monti14 wrote:
Thanks a lot for the advice. I'll give it some time. I think maybe a few seraphim and st celestine could be a decent cheap addition and allow me to play some 1k-1200 ot games relatively easily.

Thoughts on models and options forward if I stay in the fight?

Don't let some of these folks get you down. Sisters are always a blast to play. Get yourself some games in!

Since you already have the core of your army play some games and see for yourself ... I've had a blast playing multiple armies with the new maelstrom missions, as far as 40k being fun or not it really depends on your gaming group.

I would definitely give it a shot, i've had a ton of fun with 7th so far with around 10 games played across 3 armies.

I am actually really digging SoB in 7ed so far. They have all the most important tools to do well and are fun to play with and against.

I have also been finding 7ed to be the best edition I have played in terms of balance, assuming you put some list building limitations in place (1 CAD and battleforged only) and discard unachievable maelstrom objectives.

Id say try to stop by a FLG and check out the book. see if you would enjoy it or not.

I think 7th is fine in moderation. and doesn't get insane so long as you aren't actively trying to break it (or play against people that do)

Ignore the interweb hyperbole machine.

So I make it a general policy these days to warn prospective new players away from 40k. The cost to buy in for a starting army plus rules is just not worth the return you get in terms of gameplay.

THAT BEING SAID:

You are already past the hardest part of starting: you have your army. You can get some games in without spending any money at all, aside from a codex, and see how you like it. And holy crap, 1000 points of pristine-looking Sisters of Battle? Those models are worth a mint if you do decide you aren't having fun. I do love the Sisters, and although they're a tough army to play, they're fun and the models look great.

The key is going to be finding a good place to play and good people to play against. Your gaming group is extremely important, because 40k probably hasn't really ever functioned without harmony between players, but I think 7th offers even more opportunities for people to be jerks due to the removal of so many restrictions on list building and the addition of things like superheavies to the normal game (and even flyers, added in 6th, could give your girls trouble since you have a distinct lack of AA options).

In the end, you should take what you've got and get some games in. See if you like it, make some new gaming buddies. And if you're still on the fence after all that... I would honestly lean towards selling everything and moving on. Expanding those Sisters would be astronomically expensive, whereas the ebay value of your army would get you decent sized forces in two or three other really good game systems instead (I highly recommend X-Wing and Dropzone Commander, and I hear Infinity is really good as well - see if you spot anyone playing any of those at whatever gaming store you go to, they're worth looking into).

Best of luck!

I would say: do not buy anything. Play with what you already have, and burrow the rulebooks from friends. If you are having a lot of fun, maybe, maybe buy some new models that you are missing, like Celestine and Seraphims.

You might want to post your general location here as well. We might know of a local club that is in your area.

monti14 wrote:
I was wondering what your guys thoughts were. Should I sell the sisters army and walk away or get back into it. whats your thoughts on the new rules etc.

Give it a try. If you like it, by all means, just continue playing, if you don't, just sell them. Their value is pretty good.

monti14 wrote:
1 canoness
6 sisters squad leader dudes -5 plasma/chain sword, 1 bolter/power sword

12 melta sisters
31 battle sisters -bolters
4 heavy bolter sisters

3 immolator tanks
2 rhonos

2 penitent engines
3 exorcists

Since you don't have any Seraphims, you can just fill your Fast Attack slots with Dominions squads.
3x squads of 1 Leader, 2-3 Bolters, 2 Meltaguns, Multimelta Immolator. Scounting meltaguns are always fun.

Then, you've got enough Sisters to build 2 squads of 10 Sisters (1x Leader, 2x Melta, 7x Bolter) in Rhino. Or 3 of them if you remove the missile launcher from one exorcist and use it as a Rhino. You can build a Retributor squad with all the Heavy Bolters. Maybe put these chicks with the 2 remaining Exorcists behind an Aegis Defense Line, and give the Quad Gun to the Canonness.

Just borrow the books, play a few games to see if you like the current edition, and decide for yourself.

You may want to add some flamers, since you don't have much anti-troop firepower. Or maybe the Saint and her Seraphims. But that's it.

Thanks a lot for the help everyone. It means a lot that you all took the time to write back and give me advice.

I will see how it goes with what I have. I have a really close friend that is about to finish basic training with around 10,000 pts of guard and 4-5,000 pts of forge world guard. So I will ask him for a couple games. I think he will be excited that I want a couple games in. I'll bring the winecoolers and my sisters...

As asked before, I live in Chesapeake/Virginia Beach, Virginia if anyone is around that area and knows any gaming clubs.

If you come to Richmond we have FTW which is most excellent.

I highly suggest you sell your army after getting a few note games in. More prominently I highly suggest you sell them to me when that time comes.

I'd give it a shot, you've got a pretty cool army and the SOB codex is supposed to be just around the corner. If you've played 6th there's very little difference in games mechanics so you should be able to jump straight in

The SOB got a digital codex release just a few months ago, I would not expect to see another new Codex for at least 5 years.

 Psienesis wrote:
The SOB got a digital codex release just a few months ago, I would not expect to see another new Codex for at least 5 years.

Umm Oct 2013 is more than a few months ago.

On point though, a direct analogy would be the 4th edition BA dex which spanned 3 years as a stop-gap. (June/July 2007 to April 2010). Indeed, SOB went August/Sept 2011 to Oct 2013 with WD to Digidex.

So the real question is whether the Digidex should be considered a stopgapdex.

They wont drop them otherwise the game will be considered sexist which is big in the UK (eldar and dark cannot cover this as they are a mix not pure since SM are pure male they have to create a pure female to counter this sexist problem) which is why GW are neglecting them as they know they can't drop them so they do next best and ignore them and rarely address them and not give a dam.

On another note i love them as although i have not owned them i have seen them and they can destroy space marines like they are guard if they are used well, and some of there special characters outstandingly good. Since you have a good force that adds up to a common points match you have a fine force, my main concern about is it fun is like many peoples is do you have good opponents? As they are what make games fun if they are relaxed a bit they should be fun but if they are up tight then the game isn't fun due to the game stopping and starting as you argue over rules.