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2014/09/24 20:48:55
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Pretty simple, what does everyone think, and what does anyone suggest? I plan on adding spots of blue and purple glazes or washes to give the impression of bruised skin at some point.
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2014/09/24 23:30:10
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Xenohunter with First Contact
Indianapolis, IN
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It's really hard to tell what it actually looks like without proper lighting. I would definitely add some washes and glazes to give it some life - even though it's a zombie. Good start - even though it's hard to see.
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Grrr. |
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2014/09/24 23:52:56
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Yeah, my phone has either the auto light function which wont focus, or the manual settings which don't cover "Awful bedroom light that gives of an orangey glow".
Unfortunately I don't currently have the washes I really need. I have baal red, devlin mud, nuln oil and sepia. Any of them suitable to make my zombie look more decrepit and also somehow a little more living?
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2014/09/25 00:01:23
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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If you have the paints of the color of wash you need. you could always use some glazing techniques.
If you are trying to go for a fresh? zombie, then some reds, purples and a bit more shiny blood and gore (probably tamya clear or the bftbg paint)
if not you should go for a slightly gangrenous zombie with a bit more greens purples. (just slightly.)
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2014/09/25 00:04:41
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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I'm not really sure. Probably that brief period between death and decomposition. Pale skin (as shown) with bruising and other marks to show that it's starting to fall apart, but can still just about move under it's own power, with a little help from dark magic?
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2014/09/25 00:09:10
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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After googgling post mortum decomp.
Stomach area should be greenish
Blood should pool in the lower extremities (or whatever direction it died in)
So greenish for the stomach area, purple bruising for armes and legs and under eyes
about as far as you needa go probably.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2014/09/25 00:54:54
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Any suggestions how to make the guts look greenish without going too comical?
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2014/09/25 03:06:32
Subject: Re:First attempt at zombie flesh
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Try mixing equal parts brown & green wash to your base/layer before adding a Rotting Flesh highlight. If you want to get real fancy, do a thin coat Nurgle's Rot on top of it.
These examples used a straight green wash, as a frame of reference.
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2014/09/25 03:28:03
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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I see what you're going for, but it looks almost bone colored. I would try adding a light peach or a light pink wash to make it a little more skin toned.
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2014/09/25 03:32:02
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Im not sure if it will work but, you could paint white,
Rot, bruse the areas you want first. then glaze over with your flesh color.
It may give a better way to express the damage underneath the skin.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2014/09/25 06:21:08
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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If it's a brown wash, you got what you need! Basecoat in whatever color, then wash. Or pre-ink, and glaze with the flesh colors. I prefer to do that, because I can mix colors (eg. shade colors) as I glaze.
Mostly Army Painter stuff, but here's a Zombicide tutorial. Also, AP has a basecoat-shade-highlight tutorial on their site.
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1235693/painting-tutorial-zombie-flesh-and-monochrome-army
I recommend you work on several zombies at once, so you don't overanalyze your single miniature. Save that for the heroes!
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2014/09/25 06:31:21
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I read you have Devlin mud. This would be perfect and would give the flesh a richer, dirtier zombie tone colour. A little purple wash around eyes and ruptured wounds would look good when you can get it. Just watch a few episodes of walking dead if you want zombie skin tone tips.
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2014/09/25 06:32:09
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Xenohunter with First Contact
Indianapolis, IN
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At this point you just want to be using washes and shades to add to the effect of dead skin. As mentioned, you can thin down your paints to create glazes and washes. If you're using washes straight out of the pot, you'll want to thin them down a bit for this part. Almost 5:1 water to wash. It will almost look like it does nothing the first few coats, but after 3 to 4 glazes you'll start to notice the subtle effect.
You've got the skin down well enough, so just focus on the glazes to the areas mentioned desubot and you can't go wrong!
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Grrr. |
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2014/09/25 18:43:03
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Washes wont give you bruises, it will give you flesh tints and shading. Use a light purple to make bruises
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2014/09/25 19:33:39
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Fixture of Dakka
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There's a GW technical paint called Nurgle's Rot that has a very convincing decay/rot/puss effect that would look good on a zombie. I think you can find a sample of it on GW's official YouTube collection. I have purchased one, but have never used it, because, uhhh.. I'm not much of a zombie painter, hehe >.<
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2014/09/25 20:03:19
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Talys wrote:There's a GW technical paint called Nurgle's Rot that has a very convincing decay/rot/puss effect that would look good on a zombie. I think you can find a sample of it on GW's official YouTube collection. I have purchased one, but have never used it, because, uhhh.. I'm not much of a zombie painter, hehe >.<
Nurgle's Rot is some pretty amazing technical paint. You can use big glops to make puss puddles, but its really more useful as a glaze. It gives a nice sheen and also feels slightly tacky to the touch after drying. If used as a glaze it will simply make the underlying color "pop", though it will also add a bit of a yellow tint to it.
This model is a good example of a glaze applied to a layered set of olive greens w/green was as well as bone w/brown wash. Glaze was applied after highlights.
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2014/09/26 05:56:01
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Fixture of Dakka
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@Peter -- I like the effect! Very cool
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2014/09/26 21:49:55
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Thanks! Its hella easy to acheive too. Use Nurgle's Rot glaze on Reaper Master series layered Olive Greens with Citadel Green wash in between layers. Highlight w/drybrush just before glazing.
Here is what the paint looks like prior to glaze. As you can tell, the final step makes a big difference & there are NOT highlights added after glazing. This technique is more akin to classical painting (treats the mini like a canvass) rather than the ultra contrast heavy comic book style that is most popular with GW minis.
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2014/09/26 22:40:57
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Looks cool if not a little too bright for my tastes. I think I'll just get the GW glazes and add the bruising. I can possibly use the green glaze over white/pale grey to create a rotted stomach area?
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2014/09/26 23:24:15
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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LazzurusMan wrote:Looks cool if not a little too bright for my tastes. I think I'll just get the GW glazes and add the bruising. I can possibly use the green glaze over white/pale grey to create a rotted stomach area?
Regardless of what color glaze you use, consider beforehand how it will interact with the color of your layers. IThe lighter your highlight color, the more the tint of the glaze will come through. It is my personal opinion that adding highlights after glazing is a mistake, but it depends on your personal painting style. I have not tried the GW glazes before (just the technical line), but I'd recommend doing a tester model or two if you're concerned about overly bright stuff.... GW wants all their products to look like comic books! Lol.
For the rotted guts I'd actually be inclined to recommend something purple or blue (maybe a mix of the two?) for a wash. You could highlight with something reddish, or maybe even use the Blood for the Blood God technical line. The Rotting Flesh color of paint is good for zombie flesh (duh) with a green or green/brown wash....add whatever color glaze you'd like at that point.
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2014/09/27 02:33:50
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Xenohunter with First Contact
Indianapolis, IN
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I've never used the GW glazes - I always make my own. But a glaze really won't be bright. To really notice it you'll need quite a few applications. Glazes add subtle hint of color or to blend a base coat and subsequent highlights. If it does come out bright it's not watered down enough (water or whatever medium you are using).
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Grrr. |
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2014/09/27 03:30:07
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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StormBringer328 wrote:I've never used the GW glazes - I always make my own. But a glaze really won't be bright. To really notice it you'll need quite a few applications. Glazes add subtle hint of color or to blend a base coat and subsequent highlights. If it does come out bright it's not watered down enough (water or whatever medium you are using).
I agree I don't use glazes either. you can make your own by simply thinning down the paint you are glazing and applying it in layers.
At OP try using a direction light like a desk lamp above it and if your phone supports HDR mode use that. Create a box with solid backgrounds to snap photos. Phones are the worst to use on objects. ()'m speaking from experience.)
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2014/09/27 08:15:37
Subject: First attempt at zombie flesh
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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StormBringer328 wrote:I've never used the GW glazes - I always make my own. But a glaze really won't be bright. To really notice it you'll need quite a few applications. Glazes add subtle hint of color or to blend a base coat and subsequent highlights. If it does come out bright it's not watered down enough (water or whatever medium you are using).
Depends entirely on what you use for glaze. A thin coat of Nurgles Rot makes an astronomical difference. I'm going to do a tester model and see if Blood For The Blood God can be used similarly.
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