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So here's a destroyer wing list. They seem pretty brutal in the new Dex as does the Triarch stuff.

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 110
4 Destroyers 160
3 Destroyers: 1 heavy 130
3 Destroyers: 1 heavy 130
3 Heavy Destroyers 150

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 110
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 120
3 Heavy Destroyers 150

JUDICATOR BATTALION
2 Triarch Stalkers: Heavy Guass Cannons 270
Triarch Praetorians 140
Triarch Praetorians 140

So as long as Destroyers are near stalkers they are Bs5 with PE and rerolls to wound/pen. Early game the Stalkers will use their ability so they also reroll everything. Giving me 10 Bs5 lascannons that reroll everything and 46 S5 Ap3 Guass shots (plus another 6 S5 Ap3 shots) again all rerolling. With a total of 66 T5 wounds!!! All with 3+ armour and RP

What do you think?

 FlingitNow wrote:
So here's a destroyer wing list. They seem pretty brutal in the new Dex as does the Triarch stuff.

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 110
4 Destroyers 160
3 Destroyers: 1 heavy 130
3 Destroyers: 1 heavy 130
3 Heavy Destroyers 150

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 110
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 120
3 Heavy Destroyers 150

JUDICATOR BATTALION
2 Triarch Stalkers: Heavy Guass Cannons 270
Triarch Praetorians 140
Triarch Praetorians 140

So as long as Destroyers are near stalkers they are Bs5 with PE and rerolls to wound/pen. Early game the Stalkers will use their ability so they also reroll everything. Giving me 10 Bs5 lascannons that reroll everything and 46 S5 Ap3 Guass shots (plus another 6 S5 Ap3 shots) again all rerolling. With a total of 66 T5 wounds!!! All with 3+ armour and RP

What do you think?

I think you should keep the heat rays as their 2 shots AP2 , ST8 and can pick a target Reroll hits and Wounds and Armour Penetration. They'll straight up devastate a Knight. So that's 4 ST8 AP2 Shots that reroll wounds, reroll hits, and reroll armour penetration.

You need to drop one or two destroyers to beef up your Destroyer Lords.

1 Destroyer Lord, Orb of +1 , Warscythe, Phylactery, Phase Shifter = 195

1 Destroyer Lord , Night Mare Shroud, Phylactery , Phase Shifter , Warscythe = 205


Join them into 1 unit , Good luck getting rid of a unit that's T6 6 wounds 6 plus attacks, 2+, 4++, 4++, and if get's hit hard can just choose to reroll all the 2nd set of 4++s once a game.

Deep Strike them in and watch your opponent gak himself because there's pretty much nothing but a Knight maybe that can kill that unit.

I've swapped out the heatray due to range. I know it is devastating but the Stalkers will be my furthest back unit so need the range of the HGC.

It's got a 24 inch range it's just wasting that ability somewhat to twin link it every turn.

Check out the post on the Destroyer Lords. Two of them can be pricey pricey, but making a unit of Destroyer Lords is devastating. I think you can give them Gauntlets of Fire as well I'll check on that as that would be good against someone trying to bog them down with a huge squad.

It's a really small footprint , they can deep strike, and well they'll kill most anything really. Preferred enemy with Warscythes, uh yeah.

Plus they can deep strike with the Praetorians and give the Praetorians Preferred Enemy.

I'll take a go at it

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 170 w/ Warscythe, Phylactery , Phase Shifter
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers: 1 w/ Heavy Destroyer 130
3 Destroyers: 1 heavy 130
2 Heavy Destroyers 100

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 205 Warscythe, Phylactery , Phase Shifter, Night Mare Shroud
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 130 w/ 1 H. Destroyer
2 Heavy Destroyers 100

JUDICATOR BATTALION
2 Triarch Stalkers: Heat Rays 250
Triarch Praetorians 140
Triarch Praetorians 140

1850

Not as beefy as previously stated, but still a bitch of a unit to put down w/ 2+ , 4+ , 5+ , 5+.

So that's not as beefy shooting as previously but now has two seriously bad ass assault units.

Lemme add this up

4 " Twinlinked , Shred" ST 8 AP2 , plus Flamer
7 ST9 AP2 "Twin-Linked"
30 ST5 AP3 Gauss Shots
10 ST5 AP2 "Twin Linked" (preferred enemy from the Destroyer Lords)

It's ability to twinlink will be largely used by the Praetorians. That Destroyer Lord unit is really expensive and quite slow into combat (turn 3 at earliest if opponent stays back).

It could work but I'm losing a lot of ranged Firepower. I might try that on the table too.

The opponent staying in his back field would be a bad thing to do against that army.

The Destroyer lords mid field or deep striking into your opponents path makes a pretty good " STOP GO NO FURTHER" , plus the Praetorians only have the 12 inch range so they've gotta close in on the enemy regardless. The Praetorian unit with a Destroyer Lord can pretty much handle most CC units or Beat Sticks, and shooting them is kind of pointless with a Destroyer Lord tanking shots.

I mean a 2+, 4+ , 5+ , 5+ is pretty good, now he's gonna lose the T6 against shooting unless he buddies up but two destroyer lords will completely control a side of the board with movement denial. No one wants to go near it really. Maybe 30 Hormagants, so large hordes can bog it down.

I dunno , I think they both work but my style is to try and put some CC pressure on my opponent.

The issue being the DLord slows the Praetorians down as he only moves 6". So I won't be putting them together. Running the DLords as a unit sounds more interesting'

I just meant he should go with them when they DS in or join them if he's got a easy assault. He clan split off and join his friend after they arrive but it makes the unit very buff against units firing at them and assaulting them it does mean a turn 3 charge. If you deep strike them.

Ummm ... Doncha need the prerequisite Legion first?

No he's just using them as a battleforged formation army, you can have a list that's just formations.

Don't you mean Unbound? As Battle-forged the Reclamation Legion entry in the Decurion is listed as 1+ not 0-1.

I'm not using the Decurion. This is just a normal battle forged army.

Thanks for the knowledge. I am now officially less ignorant.

I like the stripped down "boys before toys" list in the OP.

Subscribed so I can work this into my lists.

The dex has so many options...

Battle Forged Armies need to be a part of a Detachment.

What Detachment are you using to make this 'Battle-Forged'?

It's Unbound if you're not using one.

They are listed I am using 2 Destroyer Cults and one Judicator Battalion.

When using a Battle-Forged list, your force needs to be organized into 'Detachements' - This is right out of the BRB.

You still need to start with either a CAD, or a Decurion Detachment to be Battle-Forged. We do have permission to use the Formations IN battle-forged army, but not AS a Battle-Forged army.

Formations ARE detachments so I have 3 detachments (a battle forged army can contain any number of detachments) the one containing my Warlord (the first listed Destroyer Lord) is my primary detachment.


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Also all my units are part of a detachment so again the list is battle forged. Have you read the building your army section? I think you should as you seem confused about how to build an army.

He's confusing a CAD obsec with just running 3 random detachments with one being the primary.

This list is not obsec. No big deal.

He mentions using a Decurion though which also doesn't give ObSec.

 FlingitNow wrote:
He mentions using a Decurion though which also doesn't give ObSec.

Correct. Only a CAD.

 FlingitNow wrote:
I'm not using the Decurion. This is just a normal battle forged army.

Incorrect, battleforged is CAD+Ally

at least those are the only two listed as being part of a battle forged army on page 122 of the main book, indicating "the following detachments..."

 z3n1st wrote:

Incorrect, battleforged is CAD+Ally

No, battle-forged is just organizing you army by detachments (which can be any combination of detachments)

 z3n1st wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
I'm not using the Decurion. This is just a normal battle forged army.

Incorrect, battleforged is CAD+Ally

at least those are the only two listed as being part of a battle forged army on page 122 of the main book, indicating "the following detachments..."

So now you can't use ANY formations or any codex specific detachments in a Battleforged list?

Seriously read how to create your army in 7th. The CAD & AD are just 2 examples of detachments you can use. Formations are also detachments (it's literally the first line of Formations) and a Battleforged list can contain any number of any mix of detachments.

Why comment on rules you haven't read? Seriously?

 z3n1st wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
I'm not using the Decurion. This is just a normal battle forged army.

Incorrect, battleforged is CAD+Ally

at least those are the only two listed as being part of a battle forged army on page 122 of the main book, indicating "the following detachments..."

That is offered as an example not a restriction. A CAD battle forged army offers objective secured. Another army built with non CAD formation/detachment type will not have OBSEC.

 FlingitNow wrote:
So here's a destroyer wing list. They seem pretty brutal in the new Dex as does the Triarch stuff.

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 110
4 Destroyers 160
3 DestroyerDestroyerss: 1 heavy 130
3 Destroyers: 1 heavy 130
3 Heavy Destroyers 150

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord 110
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 120
3 Destroyers 120
3 Heavy Destroyers 150

JUDICATOR BATTALION
2 Triarch Stalkers: Heavy Guass Cannons 270
Triarch Praetorians 140
Triarch Praetorians 140

So as long as Destroyers are near stalkers they are Bs5 with PE and rerolls to wound/pen. Early game the Stalkers will use their ability so they also reroll everything. Giving me 10 Bs5 lascannons that reroll everything and 46 S5 Ap3 Guass shots (plus another 6 S5 Ap3 shots) again all rerolling. With a total of 66 T5 wounds!!! All with 3+ armour and RP

What do you think?

awesome concept, I would enjoy seeing this thing in action. I do think the D Lords need some kit, at the least a scythe and phase shifter each.

The list doesn't have a "core" formation which means you don't get the benefit of the decurion detachment. This list is the equivalent of 5 sky tyrant formations or something. So yeh it's legal... But unless you allow these sorts of force orgs locally ( I.e having unlimited sources ) this won't be a well played list.

He openly recognizes he wont have the benefit of the Decurion detachment.

The Decurion isn't a must have.

Yeah I never mentioned a Decurion. Unless you allow troops choices locally then any list with troops won't be played. What is the point of even mentioning that people may play by random house rules that make my list illegal?

I dunno man I always find statements like that weird.

When are you going to test out thsi list I wanna see how it goes.