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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/15 09:04:22
Subject: SOB detachment
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Repentia Mistress
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Friends and I are playing around with detachments for our unupdated armies. We're trying to keep it fluffy to the theme of them all but not OTT.
I've got my sisters and I just wanted to get some feedback/advice/suggestions/omgwtfareyouthinkinggetridofthat.
Sisters of Battle Detachment
(Find a suitable name)
Detachment Special Rules:
“I remember the words of the Codex Imperialis- no heretic, no mutant, no xenos, can be suffered to live!”
Followers of the Imperial Creed: Units in this detachment have Preferred Enemy (Psykers/Brotherhood of psykers/etc; Codex Tau/Necrons/Tyranids/Eldar/Dark Eldar/Harlequins/Orks/Chaos)
Purity of Faith: Models with the Shield of Faith special rule gain +1 to their Invulnerable Save.
Models with the Acts of Faith special rule count their Ld as 1 higher (max 10) when making Acts of Faith Tests.
0-1 Command- Ecclesiarchy Heirachy (find better name)
• 1 Cannoness
• 1 Sororitas Command Squad
• 1-5 Priests*
• 1-5 Ecclesiarchy Battle Enclaves
Special stuff:
*Uriah Jacobus may be taken in place of one Priest.
1 Core- Sisters Militant (oh that needs work)
• 1 Cannoness
• 0-3 Priests
• 0-3 Ecclesiarchy Battle Enclave
• 0-1 Sororitas Command Squad
• 3-6 Battle Sister Squads*
*Battle Sister squads must consist of at least 10 Battle Sisters.
Special Stuff:
1-10 Auxillary
Celestial Plane
• Celestian Squad
Repentant Congregation (yeah, the apoc)
• 2-4 Sisters Repentia*
*Repentia squads must have at least 10 Sisters Repentia models
Special Stuff: “Only in death does duty end:” Feel No Pain (5+)
Angelic Host (yes this is the apoc formation but theres nothing apoc about it today)
• Sain Celestine
• 2-5 Seraphim*
*Seraphim squads must have at least 10 models
Special Stuff: Units in this formation may deep strike at the beginning of any turn- must still roll.
Units in this formation enter the battlefield with their act of faith activated automatically.
Units in this formation may reroll invulnerable saves.
Dominions
• 1 Dominion Squad
Special Stuff: Dominion squads that begin the game as a squad of 10 gain Tank Hunter and Monster Hunter.
Penitent Engines
• 1 Penitent Engine Squadron
Exorcist
• 1-3 Exorcists
Special Stuff: “Polyphonic Harmony”: Exorcists in this formation that are within 4” of each other at the beginning of the shooting phase may reroll their die to determine the amount of shots each Exorcist fires.
Purge Squadron (yes, the other apoc which isn’t really all that apoc anymore)
• 3-6 Retributor Squads
• 3-6 Immolators
Special Stuff: Relentless
Wall of Fire: I’m not rewriting this, theres a lot there- look at the apoc formation with the following changes: Instead of 6 units required to combine fire, make it 3. Apoc blast downgrade to Large blast; Hellstorm template downgrade to flamer template; Massive Blast downgrade to Large blast; Large blast downgrade to small blast.
Faith and Fire: As described in apoc formation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/15 10:33:09
Subject: SOB detachment
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Hallowed Canoness
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First major problem is that one of your command benefits negates the core unit abilities of the line infantry - Battle Sisters' Preferred Enemy act of faith becomes utterly useless if they have persistent Preferred Enemy.
As it stands ,your superdetachment requires two Canonesses - a Canoness is supposed to lead an entire Order, it makes no sense to have two actual Canonesses in a detachment designed to mimic a standard military disposition.
Repentia only come in squads of 5-10, so saying the Repentia must be 'at least 10 models' is a bit off.
Purge Squadron is kind of pants if your whole squadron is making a teeny little 8" template.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/15 11:12:21
Subject: SOB detachment
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Repentia Mistress
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Yeah, the preferred enemy thing is a little annoying, while it doesnt benefit line sisters for those codice listed, it benefits the rest of the army. Line sisters only get that faith of a couple times a game anyways but they'll at least have the faith useful for vs imperial armies...
The cannoness, yeah I know, not my fault GW got rid of the Palatine. Only thing I can think of is dropping the cannoness from the command and leaving it all as priests up there...
I know 8" template isn't an apoc template but I don't really like the idea of bringing those kinds of templates into a normal game which is why I was hoping that it'd be more reasonable to drop the combined firing unit number down and get a larger number of smaller templates out there...
That 10 girl number for the repentia is what I took from their apoc formation restrictions. Still struggling to see why it was remotel- ah right, they could reroll failed FNP.
Alternatively I can scrap the repentia and retributor listings and drawing board my own stuff- I was being rushed and lazy the first time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/31 10:42:01
Subject: SOB detachment
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Repentia Mistress
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Made some small changes. Got rid of PE as I figured it a bit OP army wide.
War of Faith Detachment
Detachment Special Rules:
Holy Trinity:
Models firing Bolter, Flamer or Melta type weapons may reroll To Hit and To Wound rolls of 1.
Purity of Faith:
Models in this Detachment gain +1 to their Adamantium Will and Invulnerable saves granted by the Shield of Faith Special Rule.
0-1 Command- Ecclesiarchy Heirachy (find better name)
· 2-5 Priests*
· 2-5 Ecclesiarchy Battle Enclave
· 1 Saint Celestine
Special stuff: Crusader
*Uriah Jacobus may be taken in place of one Priest.
1 Core- Battle Mass
· 1 Cannoness
· 0-1 Sororitas Command Squad
· 2-5 Priests
· 0-3 Ecclesiarchy Battle Enclave
· 1-3 Celestian Squad
· 2-6 Battle Sister Squads*
*Battle Sister squads must consist of at least 10 Battle Sisters.
Special Stuff: Models with the Acts of Faith special rule count their Ld as 1 higher (max 10) when making Acts of Faith Tests within 12” of the Cannoness.
1-10 Auxiliary
v Repentant Congregation
· 2-4 Sisters Repentia*
· 1 Penitent Engine Squadron**
*Repentia squads must have at least 10 Sisters Repentia models
**Minimum 2 Penitent engines
Special Stuff: “Only in death does duty end:” Feel No Pain (5+ rerollable); It Will Not Die (5+)
v Angelic Host
· 2-5 Seraphim*
*Seraphim squads must have at least 10 models
Special Stuff: Units in this formation may deep strike at the beginning of turn 1- must still roll.
Units in this formation enter the battlefield with their act of faith activated automatically; this does not count toward the amount of AoF they can use.
Units in this formation may reroll invulnerable saves.
Fearless
v Power and Dominion
· 1 Dominion Squad
Special Stuff: Dominion squads that begin the game as a squad of 10 gain Tank Hunter and Monster Hunter.
v Organ Chamber
· 1-3 Exorcists
Special Stuff: “Polyphonic Harmony”: Exorcists in this formation that are within 4” of each other at the beginning of the shooting phase may reroll their die to determine the amount of shots each Exorcist fires.
v Purge Squadron
· 2-3 Retributor Squads
· 2-3 Immolators
Special Stuff: Relentless
v Divine Vengeance
· 1-3 Avenger Strike Fighters
Special Stuff: Wingman "Do a barrel roll!": if 2 or more model from this formation are within 12" of each other, these models may reroll any failed jink saves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/31 20:07:29
Subject: SOB detachment
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Sinewy Scourge
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cool.
I think the seraphim one is quite strong, maybe make it that they use their act of faith immediately, and it auto passes.
maybe make it like 2-6 priests at least, incase you want to put a priest with every sister squad.
the first two formations are kinda pants IMO, compared to the other formations. Crusader, seriously, maybe crusader and hatred Daemons, chaos space marines, all daemonkins, and zenos for the first one, and like the ability to use their act of faith twice if after the first act of faith is passed on a 4+.
and let urien jacobus be taken in the battle mass instead of a priest.
Just thoughts, I don't play sisters, but I know a little about them, and this is a super cool idea, now I kinda want to make one for my armies lol.
happy wargaming,
-Mikey
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/01 07:08:00
Subject: SOB detachment
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Repentia Mistress
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Well the detachment itself is getting a lot of good things as it is. I know the command slot is not that great, but its mostly CC squads which are undoubtedly going to have priests put into them which is going to give them zealot anyways. Unless I give them move through cover as well but then I think things would be starting to get a little over the top?
I am inclined to agree with putting Uriah in the core formation.
More faith is nice, just a non complicated way to have/gain more would be ideal. Maybe count priests as having simulcrums that give an extra faith use but then that's heading into free equipment and I hate the very notion of that idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/04 05:33:51
Subject: SOB detachment
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Sinewy Scourge
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yes, that is a fair point, and I guess that all people get the basic benefits. if you replaced crusader with reroll 1's on all shield of faith invuln saves, that would be a good rememdy.
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