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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/19 17:16:46
Subject: [1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Stalwart Skittari
West Coast, US
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I've been trying to wrap my head around a fun Necron list for myself and opponents. As such, I've decided to abstain from the decurion and wraith usage. And in general I don't like flyers, so that was out of my reckoning as well.
Here's the list, a bit unfinished as of yet:
*HQ*
Anrakyr- 160
Cryptek- 115
-Chronometron
-Veil of Darkness
*Troops*
Eternals- 170
-10x
Warrriors- 339
-18x
-Ghost Ark
Warriors- 235
-10x
-Ghost Ark
*Elites*
Deathmarks- 90
-5x
Deathmarks- 90
-5x
T. Stalkers- 125
*Heavy Support*
Heavy Destroyers- 150
-3x
***Total 1474***
Notes:
I'm considering dropping a single warrior, and a unit of deathmarks to perhaps cram a second Stalker into the mix for redundancy, as they get targeted fast.
I was originally looking for a way to include Szeras, who is such a force multiplier, as a third HQ, but I can't find a way to do it without paying exorbitant amounts of overhead. I can't make a mehprit allied detachment can I? If I drop my current cyptek in lieu of him, I lose the mobility and durability on the Eternals, and chain them to working along the rest of the phalanx. But that +1 RP bubble sure is sweet.
This list can be switched cleanly to a Mephrit Dynasty Cohort for some added RP bonus. Though losing Obsec on these troops is a major blow.
EDIT: Wait, can I take multiple combined arms detachments?
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2015/10/19 17:53:20
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/19 17:45:42
Subject: Re:[1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Brutal Black Orc
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One question? Aside from a fancy diverging name from regular immortals, do the Pyrrhian eternals have any special rule?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/19 17:46:48
Subject: [1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Stalwart Skittari
West Coast, US
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Yeah, FC + Counter Attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/19 17:53:17
Subject: [1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Brutal Black Orc
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Do you pay any tax (points increase) at all? To be honest these rules aren't that great. You want your immortals to shoot, not charge. And if they are charged at chances are their targeters are so nasty they will have no chance to exploit counter attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/19 17:55:48
Subject: [1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Stalwart Skittari
West Coast, US
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It's free due to Anrakyr's special ability. If you're taking him anyways, and have immortals (as most Necrons players do), it's a no brainer upgrade even if you never assault.
It's a flavorful boon that can see some uses. Anrakyr also has a useful warlord trait if you're attaching him to them.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
So I reworked this list into something more akin to what I originally envisioned. Compare to the list above, and tell me what you guys think.
***CAD 1***
Anrakyr- 160
Cryptek- 115
-Chronometron
-Veil of Darkness
*Troops*
Eternals- 170
-10x
Warrriors- 235
-10x
-Ghost Ark
*Elites*
Deathmarks- 90
-5x
Deathmarks- 90
-5x
*FA*
Destroyers- 120
-3x
*HS*
Heavy Destroyers- 150
-3x
***CAD 2***
Illuminor Szeras- 110
*Troops*
Warriors- 130
-10x
Warriors- 130
-10x
***Total 1500***
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2015/10/19 21:50:31
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/20 14:13:48
Subject: [1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Why a second CAD? Why not just a Royal Court detachment?
Plus, if you know what's good for you, you'd get some Tomb Blades in that list. And bump that unit of Destroyers up to 5. Automatically Appended Next Post: Note: you have one vehicle.
If your opponent has any anti-AV (which they should), that Ark will be lucky to see turn 2. Consider getting another vehicle, or just drop it to free up points that would otherwise just go to waste.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/20 14:17:38
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/20 16:35:48
Subject: Re:[1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Stalwart Skittari
West Coast, US
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1500 doesn't leave a lot of room to play with.
The first list has three vehicles, so I'm guessing your preference would lie with that one. Though single T. Stalkers get singled out instantly, and the loss of Ghost Arks cleanly removes a scoring unit. Both lists have 5 obsec, though I think the latter is more resilient in keeping scoring to the later game (4 to 3 once the rides are dead).
I'm just not seeing any particular vehicle stand out that much- the codex's strength lies in infantry. Destroyers are just awesome for punch and durability, then we have things like sentry pylons and acanthrites. Tomb blades are an option, but I see Destroyers of both types as better support in a tight list.
I'll look at both lists again to see what I can shake in, though I'm not certain a Royal Court is really doable considering the Overlord tax (it's O-lord or Imohtek iirc).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/20 18:03:51
Subject: [1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Royal Court requires 1 Overlord level HQ, 1-3 Lord level HQ, and 1-3 Cryptek level HQ.
Anrakyr is an Overlord. Check.
Szeras is a Cryptek. Check.
I'm assuming you've only got that Cryptek in the CAD there to carry the Veil and Chrono to protect the unit, yes? If so, you know, for 5 points more you could take Obyron. He comes with a Veil and a 2+, so he'll be able to tank for the unit against shooting if you keep him up front ( LoS'ing anything that gets past his armor).
That's if you're planning on making a deathstar with the Eternals, though. If so, having Obyron would significantly increase their threat. And If you REALLY wanted to go crazy, you could make the CAD's HQ a Destroyer Lord with a Warscythe and a ResOrb and throw him in as well. But now we're just being ridiculous.
3 Warscythes with PE, FC, and Counter Attack is not a friendly unit. Especially not when they can all get up on a 4+ and can reroll failed RP for a turn. Automatically Appended Next Post: Playing with that idea:
Automatically Appended Next Post: In reality, the majority of the SCs just aren't worth it.
You're best off building a list that runs smoothly that doesn't rely on gimmicks from one or two guys that give ONE unit a minor buff.
If going CAD, your best bet is probably a mix AV13 Wall and Cron-Air so you can maximize your ObSecs effectiveness.
Two or three Ghost Arks with a couple Night Scythes carrying Immortals is just straight up good. No tricks, just lots of guys that do good stuff. Throw in a few helpers (Destroyers, Deathmarks, etc) and you have a list. Automatically Appended Next Post: Eg.
Can switch out the Flayed Ones and a single Tomb Blade for some Deathmarks, if needs be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/21 01:59:56
Subject: Re:[1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Stalwart Skittari
West Coast, US
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Have an exalt, that was great- thanks. Will take all that into consideration!
I was under the impression that Royal Court specified only a vanilla Overlord or Imohtek. But if that's not the case, then that frees up some reqs.
In general I dislike SCs and being HQ heavy, but I like these a bit (though I prefer to model them differently).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/21 15:25:52
Subject: [1500] - Necron - CAD Simplicity
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Lieutenant General
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The Royal Court states that Imotekh the Stormlord, Nemesor Zahndrekh, Trazyn the Infinite, Anrakyr the Traveller or a Catacomb Command Barge may be taken in place of the Overlord.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/21 15:26:04
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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