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As the title says, this isn't a thread about big things that cross the line. This is more about the little things that annoy you while playing but aren't really a big enough deal to discuss with the opponent. 

One for me is when people roll dice and send them scattering all over the table. I get its fun to roll lots of dice and you want to make sure that they really do roll, but it bugs me when someone rolls dice and they scatter in every direction into terrain and around models. 

I think it was in the 5th ed rule book there was a little blurb about if a die fails to land on the table it automatically counts as a failed roll. I love this rule and we use it often in friendly games. 

D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

I get annoyed when I or my opponent roll scatter a significant distance from whatever is scattering. It makes it harder to figure the proper scatter direction. I'm getting better with this, though.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

I thought it was standard practice for a d3 roll where you roll a d6 and 1-2=1, 3-4= 2 and 5-6= 3?

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

Honestly that sounds harder, because then you have to remember number spaced apart rather than number right next to each other.

UrsoerTheSquid wrote:
As the title says, this isn't a thread about big things that cross the line. This is more about the little things that annoy you while playing but aren't really a big enough deal to discuss with the opponent. 

One for me is when people roll dice and send them scattering all over the table. I get its fun to roll lots of dice and you want to make sure that they really do roll, but it bugs me when someone rolls dice and they scatter in every direction into terrain and around models. 

I think it was in the 5th ed rule book there was a little blurb about if a die fails to land on the table it automatically counts as a failed roll. I love this rule and we use it often in friendly games. 

I've posted this before in another thread, but -

Whittlesey40k wrote:
I've always found it odd how people throw 10+ (sometimes 40+) dice onto the table - dice scattering everywhere, rolling off the edge, disappearing into terrain etc.

I get a box lid (usually the lid from a mid-90s predator!) and everything gets rolled into that. There's no difficultly in seeing a result (fairly low box sides). Very rarely a cocked dice. Everyone knows, if it's not in the box, it's not been rolled. If something jumps out of the box, it gets re-rolled into the box. No picking and choosing "well it's a 6 so I'll take it", or "it's a 1, but not in the box, I'll have to re-roll". If someone just randomly drops a dice, there's no "actually, that 6 is a roll for my run range" nonsense.

It's very easy to see results when there are many dice. Just remove the 'fails' and pick up what's left to roll them again. And your opponent can then pick to the successful To Wound dice to take his/her saves.

I just cannot fathom why people would roll dice onto a busy table. Everyone I play with agrees to the box method (they do it when I'm not there, so not just humouring me!).


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 SharkoutofWata wrote:
D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

Directly from the BRB -

Rolling a D3
In some circumstances, you may be instructed to roll a D3. To do this, simply roll a D6 and halve the number, rounding up. Thus, 1 or 2 = 1, 3 or 4 = 2 and 5 or 6 = 3.

So to do anything else isn't RAW.

Scatter dice being rolled far away from the template that's meant to be scattering.

It gets really annoying because some try to curve the tape measure ever so slightly to avoid a bad scatter.

Forceful/mass dice rolling so it goes everywhere, that gets annoying after a while. Although this is stopped a bit when any die that lands on the floor is considered a fail (yes, I stole the idea from the BRB).

That RoB city board with all the gutters... Cocked dice central.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

I would be slightly annoyed by someone doing this and not telling it to me beforehand. D6 to D3 should be 1-2 3-4 5-6.

When my opponent rolls all of his dice out of my sight... I know he doesn't cheat (played doubles with this guy for at least a year), but it bothers me


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nudibranch wrote:
That RoB city board with all the gutters... Cocked dice central.

The store manager at our LFGS just painted one up for us to play on... Oh lord. Everything is cocked, even on flat terrain

UrsoerTheSquid wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

I thought it was standard practice for a d3 roll where you roll a d6 and 1-2=1, 3-4= 2 and 5-6= 3?

Same.

other things that bugs me out

Scatter dice: Scatter die don't work on in the table top game. Players are horribly bad at moving the direction. And because both players are at a different angle from the dice and the board they will most likely interpetate it differently.

Spikey terrain that actually tries to hurt you.

Terrain that is glued to a base in such a way that it becomes really hard to use. Most of the time its ruins.

Experienced players of the game who slow the game down by:
-contesting obvious rules such as the drop pod rule.
-Rethinking their strategy unit for unit in every phase.
-Forcing you to measure every model in a blob.

Blast template cheating
Players who "accidently" mispace their blast or worse slightly tutch the models so that they are just in or

The dice / this roll are not statistical. -> This is a mayor annoyance. One day some of those players might push me into educating the proper usage of statistics.

Nice players who start an end of the game discussion that your model is 0,01" out. .

nudibranch wrote:
That RoB city board with all the gutters... Cocked dice central.

Roll in a box! Box, box, box, box, box!

nudibranch wrote:
That RoB city board with all the gutters... Cocked dice central.

My friend has one, the board looks amazing but rolling on it sucks so much.

Things that annoy me:
People who pick up successful dice rolls and leave failures after rolling
People who roll behind terrain so the dice rolls are hidden
People who roll for stuff and then say what they were rolling for
Not getting the opportunity to jink before they roll dice, they say who they are shooting at and then roll immediately, well it to late to jink now that you've seen my attack roll.

thechosen1 wrote:

UrsoerTheSquid wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
D3 rules. 1,2 and 3 are on the frigging dice. Use them. 1,4=1 2,5=2 3,6=3. How friggin hard is that?? I really can't stand all this stupid 'half rounded up' crap.

I thought it was standard practice for a d3 roll where you roll a d6 and 1-2=1, 3-4= 2 and 5-6= 3?

Same.

It's a relic from back when I used to play. But since it's weird I always let my opponent know before my roll what values are what. It's not confusing at all to look at a dice and count to three twice. 1 2 3, 1 2 3. I honestly don't remember where I picked it up from, and it might not even have been Warhammer. It's a feth and a half trying to use the standard way when 2 isn't a 2. 2 should be a 2. But since I'm the weird one I'm working on conforming to the norm.

When people touch/pick up my models. Without asking. And then comment on what a terrible painter/modeller I am. Especially when it isn't my opponent.

As long as you are clear ahead of time on what the die roll means most people wont care if you do a D3 GW's way or your own.

 Cleatus wrote:
When people touch/pick up my models. Without asking. And then comment on what a terrible painter/modeller I am. Especially when it isn't my opponent.

You and other players around you should not allow this. Just tutching one of my models without asking upsets me. Moving models if you are not part of it is a big no go, I would bite your head of for this. Not only does it affect the game but that other unknown person could also damage it.
Insulting my models is well just insulting.

 KharnsRightHand wrote:

I get annoyed when I or my opponent roll scatter a significant distance from whatever is scattering. It makes it harder to figure the proper scatter direction. I'm getting better with this, though.

Roll the dice close to where you plan to place the model or template.

 Dozer Blades wrote:

 KharnsRightHand wrote:

I get annoyed when I or my opponent roll scatter a significant distance from whatever is scattering. It makes it harder to figure the proper scatter direction. I'm getting better with this, though.

Roll the dice right where you plan to place the model or template.

This is a terrible idea to take literally. my squad of boyz are a perfect underground to cog a dice.

 oldzoggy wrote:

 Cleatus wrote:
When people touch/pick up my models. Without asking. And then comment on what a terrible painter/modeller I am. Especially when it isn't my opponent.

You and other players around you should not allow this. Just tutching one of my models without asking upsets me. Moving models if you are not part of it is a big no go, I would bite your head of for this. Not only does it affect the game but that other unknown person could also damage it.
Insulting my models is well just insulting.

Agreed. Other 40k players are generally respectful. However I have had several incidents where people who do not play the game will walk up, pick up a mini, and ask what it is, or comment on it. One of the hazards of playing in a shared space at the FLGS!

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

People who roll for stuff and then say what they were rolling for
Not getting the opportunity to jink before they roll dice, they say who they are shooting at and then roll immediately, well it to late to jink now that you've seen my attack roll.

I wouldn't view that as a "minor annoyance". That's a major thing that crosses the line as you are effectively cheating to deny your opponent access to one of their rules.

I would inform them that I am choosing to jink, and that they will need to re-roll their attack since they rolled prematurely.

One of my minor annoyances are people who measure by holding the tape measure over their model, and then as they move the model forward they lean forward...which moves the tape measure. Most people don't realize they're doing it, but you end up seeing a lot of 6" moves become 8" moves. Most commonly with assault units.

 oldzoggy wrote:

Experienced players of the game who slow the game down by:
-Forcing you to measure every model in a blob.

And equally, players who measure the front models on the blob then move everything, shrinking the blob so that more models can get into assault. You don't need to measure every model but you do need to measure some from the front and some from the back.

Janwin wrote:
One of my minor annoyances are people who measure by holding the tape measure over their model, and then as they move the model forward they lean forward...which moves the tape measure. Most people don't realize they're doing it, but you end up seeing a lot of 6" moves become 8" moves. Most commonly with assault units.

Thankfully pre-measuring makes it easier to counter both of these.

My pet peeve is people who bring their entire list/codex/rulebook electronically, either on their tablet or, even worse, their smartphone. I have found that physical copies are a lot easier to deal with and don't slow down the game.

I completely agree. But GW stores don't like printed out Inquisition codexes :\

People who get annoyed at me for picking up the successful dice. I get that everyone does things differently, but don't yell at me because I pick up the successes then move the failures off to the side.

 TheNewBlood wrote:
My pet peeve is people who bring their entire list/codex/rulebook electronically, either on their tablet or, even worse, their smartphone. I have found that physical copies are a lot easier to deal with and don't slow down the game.

Easier to check yourself, too. I don't know why but I find looking at someone else's list on a tablet so much harder unless they physically hand it to me.

I bring most of the stuff on my tablet because there are no stores near to buy the physical books at and shipping books from GW has had issues in the past for me and I bought them digitally so I can use them at work as well. I also have no problem letting someone see my tablet to look at the list.


The reason I hate when people pick up successes first is then it's impossible to dispute if they pick up one that was not a success, if they remove failures first then I can always say that 2 laying there was a failure, the other way around they just get extras because they effectively cheated.

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I bring most of the stuff on my tablet because there are no stores near to buy the physical books at and shipping books from GW has had issues in the past for me and I bought them digitally so I can use them at work as well. I also have no problem letting someone see my tablet to look at the list.


The reason I hate when people pick up successes first is then it's impossible to dispute if they pick up one that was not a success, if they remove failures first then I can always say that 2 laying there was a failure, the other way around they just get extras because they effectively cheated.

Understandable, but I don't cheat and I don't appreciate people accusing me of doing so. Not saying you did, but it's annoyed me in the past that I've picked up successes and people have accused me of cheating. (Then they turn around and do the exact same thing)

I pick success too^^
I agree with the scatter roll and the "do not touch my models" things.