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Since the inclusion of the Ordo Reductor in book 1 'betrayal' the inclusion was more a way of adding some spice to the loyalist side of things.
Three years later and we have a full-on seperate army list, complete with unique units, HQ and FOC which throws up some interesting battle concepts and this thread is (i hope..) where we can exchange data on the best use of our available assets.
So without further adoo i shall list the benefits and restrictions that come with using the 'matrix of ruin' so that we are all on the same page.


Benefits:
compulsory HQ, 2 troops and 2 heavy support.
4 heavy support slots
2 LOW slots.
All units with the tank type are scoring in the enemy DZ (deployment zone).
All units with the tank type are obsec in maelstrom missions.
All units ingnore pinning from enemy attacks.
All units ignore the penaties and risks for moving or charging through areas of rubble,ruins, minefields and trenchworks.
Get exclusive use of Magos/Archmagos reductor, artillery batteries and minotaur batteries.

Restrictions:
HQ can only be calleb, archmagos reductor or magos reductor.
The compulsory troop choices have to be thallax cohorts
You can't have more battle/siege automata than you have units.
You have 5 troop slots.
You have 2 HQ slots
you have 2 fast attack slots.
You have 2 elites slots.


There is also an 'Isstvan Survivors' list in Calleb Decima's profile wich uses the 'Matrix of Ruin' too but with it's own special flavour...

Benefits:
All units in the detachment have 'stealth' on the first turn as well as the normal rules for the matrix of ruin.

Restrictions:
HQ - You can only take Calleb Decima and a non-compulsory Magos Reductor.
Elites - myrmidon secutors and techpriest auxillia (reductor and enginseer only)
Troops - only thallax
Fast attack - only avenger strike fighters
Heavy support - artillery tank batteries, krios squadrons, myrmidon destructors and 1 space marine heavy support choice with the tank type >cough<land raider achillies>cough<

Please post links to Ordo Reductor/mechanicum battle reports if you've taken the time - more data for the Dakka Noosphere!

Am I right in saying that the Matrix of Ruin FoC isn't compulsory, but an optional one for the Reductor? Similar in many ways to a Legion's Rite of War?

See, I'm currently thinking that the Ordo Reductor list will make a very nice little allied force. Currently, I use a Typhon to flatten any problems I encounter. It's reliable, cheap and effective. But it takes up a Lord of War and I want to use some other toys in that slot but I love the destruction it causes. So, I was thinking about allying in a basic Reductor force:

- Reductor Magos
- Thallax with Plasma Fusils
- Minotaur

That costs you probably around 400 points. Considering that you'd spend that on a Typhon means that you still get your big blasts (though less effective - no AP1, no Strength 10 and minimum range), but frees up the Lord of War slot for something else (Glaive or Falchion please!) or maybe take the Typhon anyway.

It's looking that way; 'the Matrix of Ruin' is a special FOC for use only with Ordo Reductor War Covenants and the special rules listed on page 80 of the LRB apply to the Ordo Reductor War Covenants.
So yes, you could totally ally-in a reductor force!
This might be a welcome snippet for 'zuul' - apparently he has been using the old 'VSG' in combo with artillery batteries for extra survivability and was disappointed at the 'matrix of ruin's lack of fortifications.
I'm still liking the 'Matrix of Ruin' though.

Fyi: your allied setup costs 475pts with the p.p.fusil and no other upgrades on any unit - ouch! no LOW's to spoil the party in return though.