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I want to do an Ork detachment in this way:

Main detachment: 1500 (Led by Warboss with Power Klaw)
Secondary Detachment: 500 (Led by Warboss with Attack Squig)

Which is best, Combined Arms, Allied, what? I'm thinking Allied detachment.

UPDATE

Here is an example list with an allied detachment (I think, I've never done a detachment before)

Main Detachment 1498

HQ
Warboss 99
'eavy armour
Power Klaw
Da Dead Shiny Shoota
Bosspole

Troops
20 'ard boyz 240
'eavy armour
Boss nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole

Elites
17 nobz 607
4 Power Klaws
13 Big Choppas
'eavy armour

7 Kommandos 95
Rokkit Launcha
Big Shoota
Boss Nob With Power Klaw

Fast Attack
Trukk 65
Red paint job
Boardin' plank
Reinforced Ram
Extra Armour

2 Deffkoptas 60

4 Warbikers 107
Boss Nob With Power Klaw

Warbuggy 40
Red paint job
Extra Armour

Heavy Support
5 Lootas 75
Mek With Kustom Mega Blasta

5 Flash Gitz 110

Secondary Detachment 544

HQ
Warboss 94
'eavy armour
Kombi-weapon with skorcha
Attack Squig
Bosspole

Troops
10 'ard boyz 110
'eavy armour
Boss nob with slugga and choppa
10 Grotz 55
Runtherd with Squig Hound and Grot Prod

Fast Attack
Burna Bommer 175
6 Skorcha Missles

Heavy Support
5 Flash Gitz 110

Thoughts?

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This isn't a rules question. This belongs in Tactics
   
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Off to 40K Tactics it goes...
   
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Orks have dirt cheap troops in gretchins. The benefits for cad and allied are the same it's really about whether you really want 6 HS or FA slots as opposed to 4, or 4 HQs as opposed to 3.

If you find yourself really wanting more? Add a Gretchin squad. Nbd.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Alpharius wrote:Off to 40K Tactics it goes...


Thanks for moving it. Wasn't sure whether or not it should go in YMDC or Tactics.

the_scotsman wrote:Orks have dirt cheap troops in gretchins. The benefits for cad and allied are the same it's really about whether you really want 6 HS or FA slots as opposed to 4, or 4 HQs as opposed to 3.

If you find yourself really wanting more? Add a Gretchin squad. Nbd.


Will update OP with an example list.

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That isn't an Allied detachment, that is just a second detachment (since you have the two troops anyway)

I always just go two CAD Detachments for 6 heavy support slots filled with 5 Lootaz.

Then I take cheap HQs, Big Mek with Finkin Kap, wyrd Boyz, and lots of trukks.
   
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You can't take an allied detachment that's the same faction as the primary detachment.
   
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Ah, that's right. It's a restriction on an allied detachment-you need to go two cads.

But again that's nbd if you take 10 man Gretchin squads.

I wouldn't do that though unless you wanna get dem slots.

Basically start with a cad and if you're really craving more of one particular slot consider dual cad.

My dual cad ork list is extreme MSU.

Cad 1: 2x Trukk boyz squads
2x Weirdboyz
3x tankbustas in trukks
3x single Deffcoptas
3x single Lobbas

Cad 2: 2x Trukk boyz squads
2x Weirdboyz
1x MANz bomb
3x single Deffcoptas
3x single Lobbas.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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the_scotsman wrote:
Ah, that's right. It's a restriction on an allied detachment-you need to go two cads.

But again that's nbd if you take 10 man Gretchin squads.

I wouldn't do that though unless you wanna get dem slots.

Basically start with a cad and if you're really craving more of one particular slot consider dual cad.

My dual cad ork list is extreme MSU.

Cad 1: 2x Trukk boyz squads
2x Weirdboyz
3x tankbustas in trukks
3x single Deffcoptas
3x single Lobbas

Cad 2: 2x Trukk boyz squads
2x Weirdboyz
1x MANz bomb
3x single Deffcoptas
3x single Lobbas.


What's a MANz bomb?

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Mega Armoured Nobz (MANz) in a Trukk I would presume. I like the term "MANz Missile" though - you point it at a target turn 1 and Cruising Speed + Flat Out the Trukk 24" across the table, then get another 6+6" disembark for a Turn 2 assault.

Basically a high speed, long range anti-Troop 'missile'. Just you resolve the damage in the assault phase rather than the shooting phase.


 
   
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Sorry. MANz bomb or MANz missile as poster above mentioned is 3x mega-armor nobs, 1 with Killsaws, 1 with Bosspole. It's a super effective way of threatening heavy armor and forcing the enemy of dealing with the threat while you get everything in position to claim all the objectives and turtle up.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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the_scotsman wrote:
Sorry. MANz bomb or MANz missile as poster above mentioned is 3x mega-armor nobs, 1 with Killsaws, 1 with Bosspole. It's a super effective way of threatening heavy armor and forcing the enemy of dealing with the threat while you get everything in position to claim all the objectives and turtle up.


Thanks!

unfortunately I have no meganobz. Standard nobs work for me ok though.

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 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Sorry. MANz bomb or MANz missile as poster above mentioned is 3x mega-armor nobs, 1 with Killsaws, 1 with Bosspole. It's a super effective way of threatening heavy armor and forcing the enemy of dealing with the threat while you get everything in position to claim all the objectives and turtle up.


Thanks!

unfortunately I have no meganobz. Standard nobs work for me ok though.


Buy meganobz. You will thank us later.
   
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MANz missile is just a squad of meganobz in a truck. Usually, it's just 3 meganobz. Gear can vary. Some people also recommend at least one combi-skorcha.

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The fact that a nob with power Klaw costs 45 points and a meganob with powerklaw costs 40 should say all that needs to be said about regular Nobz.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Sorry. MANz bomb or MANz missile as poster above mentioned is 3x mega-armor nobs, 1 with Killsaws, 1 with Bosspole. It's a super effective way of threatening heavy armor and forcing the enemy of dealing with the threat while you get everything in position to claim all the objectives and turtle up.


Thanks!

unfortunately I have no meganobz. Standard nobs work for me ok though.

You can always get some nobs cheap and add random armor bits. I made mine out of paper.
   
 
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