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3D printable, modular terrain sets!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rocketpiggames/tilescape-dungeons

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3D printer files seem all the rage, but is anyone actually printing them?

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
3D printer files seem all the rage, but is anyone actually printing them?


That's a good question!

Of course someone is, but I don't have reliable/convenient access to one, so many of these "buy the files" Kickstarters for really cool things are...not so useful/attractive to me as they might be!

   
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It would be great if the thread titles for files-only Kickstarters said as much.

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I've seen a couple of folks on facebook groups who've actually been printing stuff from some of these sort KS, but they generally seem to be those pretty involved in the industry anyway (which is why they have 3d printers0




 
   
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Can the titles of these digital-only threads reflect that?

Tired of getting excited about a project to find out they're only selling files.

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Yeah, as much as Dwarvenforge or even cheaper alternatives cost, it might almost be cheaper to actually buy the printer and whatever you want to print. There are some neat scenario style packs here.. but..
I don't have a printer either :/

   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
3D printer files seem all the rage, but is anyone actually printing them?


Yes, there are quite a few and it's growing. I've had a printer for a little over a year and have been printing away at stuff from Fat Dragon, Printable Scenery and my own designs.

I think Rocket Pig Games is a bit late to the party on fantasy dungeon and cavern tiles to get this to really take off though. The designs look fine, but the field's getting crowded and these don't really stand out enough that I'd want to add them to what I've already got.

If artists/publishers are looking for untapped potential, go for sci-fi dungeons. FDG won't have their kickstarter until next year and Printable Scenery hasn't announced one at all.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I've seen a couple of folks on facebook groups who've actually been printing stuff from some of these sort KS, but they generally seem to be those pretty involved in the industry anyway (which is why they have 3d printers0


Only a couple of peiople I've run into on the forums (LAF and FDG) that print this stuff are "in the industry" if there's any common thread, it's people that have other interests/hobbies that overlap with gaming. Myself, I coach middle and high school robotics teams and initially picked up the printer to teach the kids about 3D modeling, prototyping and making parts for the robots. I initially didn't think it could produce anything of decent tabletop quality, but after seeing what it can do with quality files, I started cranking out gaming terrain with it.

EDIT: if anyone from Rocket Pig Games is listening, I'd really recommend putting plenty of pictures of printed tiles on the main page (instead of buried in the updates). There are plenty of people that will just see the renders only and pass. If you can put up pics of painted tiles too, all the better.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
3D printer files seem all the rage, but is anyone actually printing them?


Hey, thanks for joining my conversation

Yes, 3D printers have become very popular ever since their prices dropped and regular people were able to afford them! It's much easier, cheaper, and more convenient to buy the files and print what you want and as many as you want. You can change sizes of miniatures, you can omit pieces of terrain or print tons of another piece...it's very customizable.

You can get a good printer for terrain and small placeables (crates/barrels/etc.) for about $300 and filament is around $25 a roll. It's WAY cheaper than buying something pre-fab...like Dwarven Forge for instance.


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 JohnnyHell wrote:
It would be great if the thread titles for files-only Kickstarters said as much.


Hi

Most people who sell terrain that is in a retail box don't usually refer to it as 3D.

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 RocketPigGames wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
It would be great if the thread titles for files-only Kickstarters said as much.


Hi

Most people who sell terrain that is in a retail box don't usually refer to it as 3D.


When I see "3D Modular Terrain" I don't immediately think "computer designs to print myself" either. I think of actual, physical product.

Snarky responses instead of simply amending your thread title to make it clearer what you're selling won't endear people to you.

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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I've seen a couple of folks on facebook groups who've actually been printing stuff from some of these sort KS, but they generally seem to be those pretty involved in the industry anyway (which is why they have 3d printers0





Hi! Actually they are really affordable, you can get many for around $300 and some even less. They are no longer something that only industry professionals have access to. There are shops popping up all over that will print your files for you. There are people on etsy who do it, libraries and schools are offering services too!

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the problem I see with KS like these is you can find these type of files on freeware sites too.

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rwwin wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
3D printer files seem all the rage, but is anyone actually printing them?


Yes, there are quite a few and it's growing. I've had a printer for a little over a year and have been printing away at stuff from Fat Dragon, Printable Scenery and my own designs.

I think Rocket Pig Games is a bit late to the party on fantasy dungeon and cavern tiles to get this to really take off though. The designs look fine, but the field's getting crowded and these don't really stand out enough that I'd want to add them to what I've already got.

Our system is completely different from those that you have to flip over to clip together or just set next to each other on a table. We specialize in tabletop gaming so if you want to add on like "fog of war" it's an easy and seamless transition. Our designs are thinner and lighter and require less filament to print. Our tiles are larger and roomier for heroic minis and creatures to fit without useless hallways that nothing fits into. I've posted videos to showcase every part of our dungeons for those who truly are interested in something new and unique.

If artists/publishers are looking for untapped potential, go for sci-fi dungeons. FDG won't have their kickstarter until next year and Printable Scenery hasn't announced one at all.

We started with dungeons because that's what our customers wanted the most. We've been polling extensively and with every sale on our webstore and rpgnow. This is the first of many settings we will be covering. The best part is that everything works with our Tilescape™ system and if you collect them all...there's nothing you won't be able to create.


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I've seen a couple of folks on facebook groups who've actually been printing stuff from some of these sort KS, but they generally seem to be those pretty involved in the industry anyway (which is why they have 3d printers0


Only a couple of peiople I've run into on the forums (LAF and FDG) that print this stuff are "in the industry" if there's any common thread, it's people that have other interests/hobbies that overlap with gaming. Myself, I coach middle and high school robotics teams and initially picked up the printer to teach the kids about 3D modeling, prototyping and making parts for the robots. I initially didn't think it could produce anything of decent tabletop quality, but after seeing what it can do with quality files, I started cranking out gaming terrain with it.

EDIT: if anyone from Rocket Pig Games is listening, I'd really recommend putting plenty of pictures of printed tiles on the main page (instead of buried in the updates). There are plenty of people that will just see the renders only and pass. If you can put up pics of painted tiles too, all the better.


[color=green]Our KS is already massive and I can't clog it up with even more pics. My YouTube, Facebook, Blog, and Forum are absolutely LOADED with pics and videos of every Dungeon part. As for painting...we are not painters so it would not do them justice.



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Asterios wrote:
the problem I see with KS like these is you can find these type of files on freeware sites too.


You won't find anything like the Tilescape™ Modular Building System on a freeware site unless someone buys it and upolads it there. It's a completely different type of terrain system. Fully modular and 360 degree connectivity. It's kind of like saying wooden blocks and LEGO are the same thing because you build with them both.

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 RocketPigGames wrote:
rwwin wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
3D printer files seem all the rage, but is anyone actually printing them?


Yes, there are quite a few and it's growing. I've had a printer for a little over a year and have been printing away at stuff from Fat Dragon, Printable Scenery and my own designs.

I think Rocket Pig Games is a bit late to the party on fantasy dungeon and cavern tiles to get this to really take off though. The designs look fine, but the field's getting crowded and these don't really stand out enough that I'd want to add them to what I've already got.

Our system is completely different from those that you have to flip over to clip together or just set next to each other on a table. We specialize in tabletop gaming so if you want to add on like "fog of war" it's an easy and seamless transition. Our designs are thinner and lighter and require less filament to print. Our tiles are larger and roomier for heroic minis and creatures to fit without useless hallways that nothing fits into. I've posted videos to showcase every part of our dungeons for those who truly are interested in something new and unique.

If artists/publishers are looking for untapped potential, go for sci-fi dungeons. FDG won't have their kickstarter until next year and Printable Scenery hasn't announced one at all.

We started with dungeons because that's what our customers wanted the most. We've been polling extensively and with every sale on our webstore and rpgnow. This is the first of many settings we will be covering. The best part is that everything works with our Tilescape™ system and if you collect them all...there's nothing you won't be able to create.


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I've seen a couple of folks on facebook groups who've actually been printing stuff from some of these sort KS, but they generally seem to be those pretty involved in the industry anyway (which is why they have 3d printers0


Only a couple of peiople I've run into on the forums (LAF and FDG) that print this stuff are "in the industry" if there's any common thread, it's people that have other interests/hobbies that overlap with gaming. Myself, I coach middle and high school robotics teams and initially picked up the printer to teach the kids about 3D modeling, prototyping and making parts for the robots. I initially didn't think it could produce anything of decent tabletop quality, but after seeing what it can do with quality files, I started cranking out gaming terrain with it.

EDIT: if anyone from Rocket Pig Games is listening, I'd really recommend putting plenty of pictures of printed tiles on the main page (instead of buried in the updates). There are plenty of people that will just see the renders only and pass. If you can put up pics of painted tiles too, all the better.


[color=green]Our KS is already massive and I can't clog it up with even more pics. My YouTube, Facebook, Blog, and Forum are absolutely LOADED with pics and videos of every Dungeon part. As for painting...we are not painters so it would not do them justice.



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Asterios wrote:
the problem I see with KS like these is you can find these type of files on freeware sites too.


You won't find anything like the Tilescape™ Modular Building System on a freeware site unless someone buys it and upolads it there. It's a completely different type of terrain system. Fully modular and 360 degree connectivity. It's kind of like saying wooden blocks and LEGO are the same thing because you build with them both.


actually I've seen files like these on freeware sites that were connectable and interchangable, hell I've done a few myself and then realized they are not yet cost effective. in fact find it cheaper to make LEGO terrain and such.

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Asterios wrote:
the problem I see with KS like these is you can find these type of files on freeware sites too.


When it comes to free files on Thingiverse, yeggi and the like, you really do "get what you pay for". There are some gems scattered here and there, but by and large, you're looking at an endless list of peoples first drafts and first attempts at learning to draft and sculpt. I've printed many utility type parts like a new fan mount for my printer etc, but I really haven't found more than a couple of free hobby files that are worth my time.

Honestly the price you pay for one of the package sets from KS campaigns like this is absolutely worth them money. The sculpting is better, there are far fewer problems with scaling, bad meshes and unprintable overhangs.



To Rocket Pig, I'm not saying that the generic dungeon stuff isn't popular, it's just that a significant part of your potential audience already have plenty of those. You should be pushing the packages that no one else is doing like the Pipes, Lava, Iron and Ice. Again your stuff looks good and the price is right, but I've got stone dungeon and cavern pieces coming out my ears.

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Man, I like these but for the price of the several sets I could actually buy a physical set... it'd be a lot more tempting for me if the "Every File" pledge was like $75. Seeing that there will be add-ons for files (probably the cool stuff to decorate a dungeon with!) makes it just seem too much for me.
   
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 Nostromodamus wrote:
 RocketPigGames wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
It would be great if the thread titles for files-only Kickstarters said as much.


Hi

Most people who sell terrain that is in a retail box don't usually refer to it as 3D.


When I see "3D Modular Terrain" I don't immediately think "computer designs to print myself" either. I think of actual, physical product.

Snarky responses instead of simply amending your thread title to make it clearer what you're selling won't endear people to you.


I'm not trying to be "snarky"...that is a FANTASTIC word, by the way! I'm simply stating that most products that are physical products don't refer to them as being 3D. Like a box of 3D Lego or 3D building blocks...or even 3D Dragonforge. Those are physical products...not 3D products. If you think of any 3D printed products...they are called 3D

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rwwin wrote:
Asterios wrote:
the problem I see with KS like these is you can find these type of files on freeware sites too.


When it comes to free files on Thingiverse, yeggi and the like, you really do "get what you pay for". There are some gems scattered here and there, but by and large, you're looking at an endless list of peoples first drafts and first attempts at learning to draft and sculpt. I've printed many utility type parts like a new fan mount for my printer etc, but I really haven't found more than a couple of free hobby files that are worth my time.

Honestly the price you pay for one of the package sets from KS campaigns like this is absolutely worth them money. The sculpting is better, there are far fewer problems with scaling, bad meshes and unprintable overhangs.



To Rocket Pig, I'm not saying that the generic dungeon stuff isn't popular, it's just that a significant part of your potential audience already have plenty of those. You should be pushing the packages that no one else is doing like the Pipes, Lava, Iron and Ice. Again your stuff looks good and the price is right, but I've got stone dungeon and cavern pieces coming out my ears.



We absolutely hear you! The reason we started with Dungeons is that it is the most popular and it's what the people wanted. We did polls and surveys and it was by and large the winner. That was alright with us because we are going to be covering ALL settings and starting from the ground up makes sense! Since our system is so unique, we want people to have all the packs to complete their UNIVERSE of gaming


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 RiTides wrote:
Man, I like these but for the price of the several sets I could actually buy a physical set... it'd be a lot more tempting for me if the "Every File" pledge was like $75. Seeing that there will be add-ons for files (probably the cool stuff to decorate a dungeon with!) makes it just seem too much for me.


We worked hard to make sure that with our KS you'd be getting FAR more pieces than any other 3D terrain set on the market...and it is. We have thousands of pieces if every stretch goal is unlocked. If you compare our core sets, stretch goals, and add-ons to anyone elses you'll see we offer far, far, FAR more. This is one reason we did this....we are backers of lots of KS projects and have never been fully satisfied with what we've gotten. We wanted something perfect for gamers...and we made it!


Thank you so much for contributing to the thread! Hope to see you at the KS!

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I believe you have more designs, but what are you comparing to? Other all digital sets (I don't know of any personally but it's obviously very possible!) or physical sets?

With physical sets, of course there are less designs as they have to actually mold them! With digital, it just depends on cost whether this set is better or not... no person is going to print out thousands, or even hundreds, of designs... but it would've been nice to have a variety of dungeon tile types at a lower pledge level. Right now, to have a variety of types you have to pay enough that I'd be comparing this to actual physical sets...

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There's just hours left in the KS, so get in now.
There's like at least 18 stretch goals unlocked now, theyre all full packs not just a single piece like other stretch goals!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rocketpiggames/tilescape-dungeons

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Well I ended up backing for "Shroom World" - can't resist a good set of mushroom men and haven't liked the ones already on the market. Will let you all know how the files look when they're done, and hopefully a 3D print of one of them!
   
 
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