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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/22 20:43:52
Subject: Micron pen for purity seals?
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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I've been trying to figure out a good way to do writing on purity seals and parchment, and came across micron pens. Does anyone else use these, and what size works for these?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/22 20:48:29
Subject: Micron pen for purity seals?
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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I have done this before, I think in 0.3mm tip size. The ink turns out kind of glossy, but it looks OK after a matte varnish. If you can manage writing with a brush, I still believe it turns out better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/22 22:05:28
Subject: Micron pen for purity seals?
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Ship's Officer
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I think I’ve only seen 1, 1 example so far of writing on parchment done right, the rest are just messy scribbles by illiterate children, you’re better off using decals, either pre existing ones or send your requirements to a decal maker. I’ve just leave mine blank, that’s one thing I haven’t got around to it doing it right for a passing grade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/22 22:08:51
Subject: Micron pen for purity seals?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It works OK. I prefer decals from Ginfritter like I used on my chaplain, but the micron pens work about as well as a small brush
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/22 23:06:13
Subject: Re:Micron pen for purity seals?
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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They're ok. I'd recommend 005 size, but it looks like they now also make an even smaller 003 which ought to be fine too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/23 00:19:46
Subject: Micron pen for purity seals?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I bought a set of micron pens to have a go at writing text. In the end I found a fine paint brush to be better. Got myself a Raphael 4/0 (they make down to a 6/0 I believe but my local art store didn't have any in stock) and the trick is to use both flow improver and drying retarder. Flow improver lets the paint come off the brush easier and the drying retarder is because you have so little paint on the brush it'll end up drying between the palette and the model if you don't add something to slow the drying. If you're trying to do actual text (like the "ZAEL" and "SCIPIO" in the pictures below) then I found it helpful to use oil paints, just because you can clean them off if you make a mistake. Don't thin the oils too much, they paint quite well (easier than acrylics) even when thick. But I know people who do better text than me using acrylics, so maybe the oils are just a bit of a crutch for me. I spent a few hours with the micron pens, have a set with 0.3, 0.1, 0.05 and 0.03 and never got a result that I found either better nor easier than simply using the fine brush. These were all done with a hairy brush...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/23 00:21:21
Subject: Re:Micron pen for purity seals?
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Abel
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They work great! I also occasionally use them to fill in panel lines on larger models. Ancient Chinese Secret!
Just hit the area with a dullcoat when you are done as they do dry a bit glossy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/23 05:22:43
Subject: Micron pen for purity seals?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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i just picked up the army painter psycho for this exact use. really interested in these pens if I can't get a good result from the brush.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/23 05:53:26
Subject: Re:Micron pen for purity seals?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I use one and I love it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/23 10:56:26
Subject: Re:Micron pen for purity seals?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I use the 0.20mm one (005 on the cap) for all my black squiggle needs.
Tamwulf wrote:They work great! I also occasionally use them to fill in panel lines on larger models. Ancient Chinese Secret!
Just hit the area with a dullcoat when you are done as they do dry a bit glossy.
My Eldar grav tanks aprove this message (and I don’t mind the gloss)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/12/23 12:52:56
Subject: Re:Micron pen for purity seals?
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Microns are great - I use the .005 one for most my small stuff.
All my checker patterns are done with them.
For writing and such, I've only done books really but the principles the same. You want to do more of a pointilism method - ie dotting, than you would with a brush. It also helps keep it from smearing.
Yes it's glossy when finished, but matte varnish or testor's dullcoate as mentioned take care of that.
The most important things I've found when using them is:
1. Allow plenty of time to dry before you try to paint over, or especially, varnish them. They can smear when wet.
2. Don't be too rough with them, you can take off paint if you're not careful.
Honestly tho, those two things aren't that hard and they're much easier than a brush.
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