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https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1c3993d/adeptus_custodes_codex_confirms_the_existence_of/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipvD5s_iiEU

gakky picture comes from the new Codex.

Personally, I like it. Not only it was never stated that Custodes were only male (even in old lore, unlike SM), but it further cements the fact that Space Marines are "only" mass produced soldiers (even though they are pretty formidable soldiers), a brutal tool, while the Custodes are considered the pinnacle of humanity (and now all humanity).

This just reads as a piece of fluff. It doesn't mean you there will be female models of Adeptus Custodes, it could be a law enforcer or a Sister of Silence with a new rank name. To take another direction it could just mean a Custodian as a record keeper.
In any case being Reddit doesn't mean it's correct, that place is as bad as Wikipedia. Until GW announcement of models I'm just putting it down to pc wishthinking, but I'd be fine in being proved wrong. Before it's claimed it's printed so must be true, it wouldn't be the first time codex pages were faked.

Eh, in the case of Custodes, their gender seemed to be "Custodes" to me. They look to be genetically-crafted post-humans rebuilt from the ground up. Having said that, they are male-coded so this could easily open up the lore and modelling opportunities for some folk.

I thought Custodes did not have the restriction marines had? they are all custom built right?

Also the cynic in me looks at the god awful female AOS Sigmarines and was fully expecting GW to lazily re purpose the sculpts for Custodes, time might prove me right on that one.

 Formosa wrote:
I thought Custodes did not have the restriction marines had? they are all custom built right?

Also the cynic in me looks at the god awful female AOS Sigmarines and was fully expecting GW to lazily re purpose the sculpts for Custodes, time might prove me right on that one.

HH has now two times little horus by pose. Chances are very high. Also primaris techmarine and Warpsmith incident

No lore that I am aware that makes Custodes male so no issues for me in that respect

I am not a fan of the Custodes models - although I like their vehicles and dreads.

Only bad thing for me is that Sisters of Silence likely to be even more neglected :(

Both the 8th and 9th edition codices stated that the custodes are made from the sons of noble houses, although nobody else seems to have read those bits from all the discussion I've been seeing around the interwebs.

Which makes this a retcon, but that's fine, retcons happen

7th Edition had them as "offspring" and from what sources I've found 8th said "children".

8th edition codex, page 14, paragraph 3:


All Custodes begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of Terra

9th edition codex page 7, 3rd column, paragraph 1:


submit a son

So yes, it has previously been explicit they've all been male, not sure why so many people I've seen talking about this over the past day have been stating that there was never anything saying they were.

Charax wrote:

So yes, it has previously been explicit they've all been male, not sure why so many people I've seen talking about this over the past day have been stating that there was never anything saying they were.

Seems so, yeah. It's like how the first imperial knights codex said all the pilots were men and then it was changed in the next edition. Not really a big deal and overall a positive change.

Charax wrote:
8th edition codex, page 14, paragraph 3:


All Custodes begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of Terra

9th edition codex page 7, 3rd column, paragraph 1:


submit a son

So yes, it has previously been explicit they've all been male, not sure why so many people I've seen talking about this over the past day have been stating that there was never anything saying they were.

Used to be the same as naval officers, commissars etc but they changed it to offspring.

Charax wrote:
8th edition codex, page 14, paragraph 3:


All Custodes begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of Terra

9th edition codex page 7, 3rd column, paragraph 1:


submit a son

So yes, it has previously been explicit they've all been male, not sure why so many people I've seen talking about this over the past day have been stating that there was never anything saying they were.

And a great disgrace to submit a daughter

Here's the passage in question.

And the rest of it.

oh that's nice and clear, first pic I've seen of the whole thing that wasn't blurry and borderline unreadable.

Wonder if the change is referenced anywhere else or if they just quietly removed the restriction and didn't hang a lampshade on it.

Quite tempted to print off some female heads and use my leftover Burning of Prospero custodes to make a kill team now...

Charax wrote:

Wonder if the change is referenced anywhere else or if they just quietly removed the restriction and didn't hang a lampshade on it.

I think it would be for the best if they just pretended it was always so and not make a big deal about it. Same way they handled the same issue with the imperial knights.

There won't be any new models with this codex, will there? They should at least release a head upgrade sprue so people could model these female custodes.

Given the extreme physical enhancements that turn an ordinary smelly hooman into a Custard? I suspect any sexual dimorphism would be well obscured.

“Everything you have been told is a lie.”

It's unfortunate that in the rush to prove some nebulous point by retconning in femstodes, the Sisters of Silence are almost certainly going to suffer as a result.

Erm the first female Custodes to be introduced to the setting is an assassin, am I reading this right?

Nope. Taking part in the Blood Games, which is a long established “we’ll test our own defences as hard as we can” tradition going back to The Great Crusade.

Every Custard has their shot at it.


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Well this is a pleasant surprise, no doubt people will be throwing an angry fit over it, for the usual reasons. If I had any Custodes models, I'd see if Statuesque Miniatures not-Astartes heads are a good fit for those bodies. But yeah, this is a good way of handling it, just drop it in, no more turning back now, this is canon and heh, teleporting a cyclone bomb into the throne room, the blood games never cease to entertain. And yeah, they did the same with Imperial Knight fluff, with the next codex they made the position open to everybody, changed so that not every Knight world was a feudal society made up of Bretonnians in spaaaaaaaaaaaace and so on.

 BrookM wrote:
And yeah, they did the same with Imperial Knight fluff, with the next codex they made the position open to everybody, changed so that not every Knight world was a feudal society made up of Bretonnians in spaaaaaaaaaaaace and so on.

No they didn't. Every Knight world is a feudal society, in which only the tiniest fraction of the population (ie almost exclusively nobility) will ever have a chance to pilot a Knight. AND Bretonnians are all about that gender equality now anyway...

They just said that women can be said nobility too (I'm not sure if prior to the introduction of Knights into 40K there had been female knight pilots elsewhere?)

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And the rest of it.

I'm guessing teleporting a lethal device directly next to the Throne failed. Though in 10,000 years, I would have thought this would have been one of the most obvious and earliest plans tried. Why bother even trying to sneak through the Palace if one could just teleport a bomb inside? Although for a lethal enough warhead, the Custodian shouldn't have even tried for the Throne directly and instead teleported the device into a less well shielded area, like some janitor's storeroom in the Palace, and then detonate the device there where the effects presumably would still destroy the Throne.

Nice - love to see it.

That's how you do it - no fuss, no need for announcing that you're changing it. Though I'm sure there's a fair amount of folks in various places of the internet malding and seething about this - something something "why enhance women" or "this makes custodes irrelevant", no doubt.

I'd love to see what else GW do with this kind of approach. And some new post-human heads could look really cool!

Sometimes bold plans work. If nobody believes it can be done, sometimes it might just work.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Sisters of Silence are almost certainly going to suffer as a result.

Because they were doing so well before?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Sisters of Silence are almost certainly going to suffer as a result.

Because they were doing so well before?

Gal Custodes are nice (if so few people can become super warriors why cut your recruitment pool in half?) but I really want the Misters of Silence. I mean if pariahs are one in a billion then why only use women? And unlike Marines and Custodes there's no geneseed/whatever issue that requires them to be one gender.

On Sisters of Silence?

I’ve long suspected some kind of clone or Votannesque Cloneskein behind their numbers. Given how ridiculously rare Blanks are, having some kind of manufacturing process, where they’re essentially cloning one individual does make a certain amount of sense.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Sisters of Silence are almost certainly going to suffer as a result.

Because they were doing so well before?

For somebody who supposedly wants to see more female representation, it is curious that you (in common with seemingly everybody else) are seemingly unconcerned with actually supporting female (sub-)factions in terms of background and/or models.

Almost as if the desire isn't really for good female 'representation'...

Sisters of Silence have received a grand total of one kit (plus two Hersey-locked Foregworld models), and never even got models for most of their Heresy era units. Their background for 40K amounts to '...something something they're back, I guess?' But rather than advocate for them to get better support, a mention of a single femstodian is considered a win instead.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Gal Custodes are nice (if so few people can become super warriors why cut your recruitment pool in half?) but I really want the Misters of Silence. I mean if pariahs are one in a billion then why only use women? And unlike Marines and Custodes there's no geneseed/whatever issue that requires them to be one gender.

Cool, I'm on board with that.

Lord Damocles wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Sisters of Silence are almost certainly going to suffer as a result.

Because they were doing so well before?

For somebody who supposedly wants to see more female representation, it is curious that you (in common with seemingly everybody else) are seemingly unconcerned with actually supporting female (sub-)factions in terms of background and/or models.

Having fem Custodes doesn't change me wanting more of everything else. I'd love some more SoS. Not sure why you'd think that I wouldn't want that.

I'm just pointing out that there's no reason to suspect that having a new fluff option for Custodes means that Sisters of Silence are suddenly going to miss out on new stuff, implying that GW was going to be giving them new stuff in the the first place which they won't get because... of a new fluff extract.

Or, to put it another way - I see some people claiming that "Sister of Battle are just like female Space Marines!!!" If we entertain that notion, then wouldn't that imply that the release of Primaris Marines should've shot dead any chance of plastic Sisters?

Clearly, something doesn't add up with that logic, so perhaps it's best to leave that by the wayside, and rejoice in our new Custodes options.

Almost as if the desire isn't really for good female 'representation'...

Keep making assumptions - I'm happy with my Custodes.